Polls in May 2023 are fun!
So are elections in 2022
See Jacksonville last night
I'm fair to both candidates throughout this thread. Hardly a meltdown
So you think that because DeSantis won before the 6 week bill passed means women like him better but Trump still owns Florida
You seem to be struggling. But I won't call it a meltdown. That would be wrong
You’re on a roll Race. You think Trump ushering Roe v Wade into the 2024 is a winner for him over RDS.
If recent history follow suit RDS will win women again and Trump, because he’s Trump and has not changed, will lose them again. A hard pill for Trump supporters.
Trump got Roe back to the states. [/b]Trump is calling for the GOP to stop the stupidity like 6 weeks that women hate. Trump is taking the majority position of first trimester - the original Roe law
I don't see a problem here for Trump. Ron? Major problem
You reason for Ron not struggling with women is because Trump did. Ron having the mee too issues of Trump and being worse on abortion will be different some how
I use logic. You are wrapped in emotion.
And has blood on his hands to prove it.
See?
Trump will let women kill their babies
Print the campaign posters
Trump likes to have his cake and eat it too. When’s he going to stop hiding behind what others say about 6-weeks and answer a simple yes/no for or against.
He lied about what pro-lifers are saying.
I myself think Trump's stated 'against' position is entirely political and that he's really pro-choice. I mean, in my and Race's lifetime, Trump was among the NY social elite (although a faction of the real pricks didn't accept him because of his ostentatious M/O). In fact, if I had to bet, I'd lay down some cash that Trump's paid for a few abortions himself. That said, I think Race is right in that Trump knows it's a loser issue on both sides, so he walks the middle (like others here) and says it's wrong and he doesn't like it, but he's not gonna say "No abortion." And fuck this state's rights rationale... I don't think Trump is as pre-occupied with constitutional theory as his fans here are or would like to think he is. He's a politician, and as such, he's a 100% warrior on the idea of winning. And, he's right. No winning, no policy. I don't think Trump has any sacred cows. He picked a side, evaluated what would play there, and went with it. He's smart. It's the same exact thing as "good people on both sides." He knew damn well that doing the normal thing and just saying, "Sure, at a rally like that there are going to be a bunch of screw balls," was going to alienate some folks in his base. So, smartly, he didn't say that. There was a guy at that rally who was interviewed who was clearly a massive antisemite and actually invoked Ivanka and Jared and said something like he didn't understand how Trump could give his daughter to a Jew or something along those lines. I'm sure he knows that that rally was full of shit balls like that guy. But again, what's the upside of condemning the whole thing? The left hates him anyway.
Trump himself, the man, is I think quite unlike many who support him. But he knows a vote is a vote.