The Dawgfag free bored ... It's what they WANT us to do
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oregonblitzkrieg
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He seemed like one of the very few honorable "Nazis" (I don't think he was even a Nazi). He wasn't actually involved in the plot but his name got brought up and he became collateral damage, like so many others. They killed around 5,000 people or more over the Valkyrie attempt even though only a few conspirators were involved.
oregonblitzkrieg
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Do you belong to a pride of faggots?
I will upvote any poast that uses "pride of faggots". It makes me giggle....and proud.
Kim, you dumb fucking bastard, we read your poasts!
90% of the Wermacht on the Eastern Front? That seems a bit high.
I think it was more like 81%.
oregonblitzkrieg
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The Germans have all the cool sounding words. Wermacht. Nebelwerfer. Panzer. Schadenfreude. Schwangerschaftverhütungsmittel. Try saying that shit when you're downing a Königsbacher Pils.
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oregonblitzkrieg
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He seemed like one of the very few honorable "Nazis" [/QUOTE]
"Honorable nazis?"
Jesus Christ.
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That's why Nazis was in quotations. He wasn't actually a Nazi. But he allowed himself to be used by them.
"Honorable nazis?"
Jesus Christ.
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That's why Nazis was in quotations. He wasn't actually a Nazi. But he allowed himself to be used by them.
PurpleJ
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PassionFS
Not all Germans supported the Nazi party. Rommel had serious reservations regarding the Nazis, but was committed to doing his job as a General. He believed in keeping his political beliefs separate from his job, and had he spoken up he would have been gone. No warning, just gone. He wanted Hitler removed from power during the later years of the war, but did not support assassinating him. He wanted Hitler to be tried by a jury. He ended up with a choice of suicide with an honorable burial, or standing trial for treason and likely being hanged in public. He chose suicide.
RaccoonHarry
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Plus, he was told they'd kill his family. The Nazi's played for keeps. Rommel was admired greatly by the Allies for not just his unequalled military skill but also his human qualities. If the Allies hadn't cut off his supplies and reinforcements they'd have never taken North Africa.
Passion
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Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).
However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.
Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.
I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.
You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld
However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.
Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.
I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.
You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld
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fivehundredmileDAWG
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Textbook example of how you never know where a thread will go.
TierbsHsotBoobs
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Disagree.
Nazi digressions should always be expected.
PurpleJ
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I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.
FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?
Thanks in advance for fucking off.