The coming wealth flight from Wash State

[Bendintheriver]

Upwards of 20 million illegals and hh wants to raise taxes. Taxes of 56 cents per gallon and hh thinks its great. That effects virtually everything that the middle class buys. Forget the gallon of gas in their car, virtually everything that the poor and middle class buy is taxed by every ounce of transportation to get things from the field to the market and then to the store.
hh isn't smart enough to get it but the poor and middle class suffer because of it.

 

[HHusky]

I just can’t understand why the Republicans with all their power in the state govt won’t just fix the regressive taxes. FFS.

The problem is that "regressive taxes" really don't mean anything. If everyone pays the same tax rate, it is hardly regressive unless you just redefine the term. If you pay zero federal income taxes and have a marginal rate of 0%, it's hard to say that someone paying $3 million in federal income taxes and has a marginal tax rate of 37% is benefiting from a regressive tax. If Joe Blow buys 20 gallons of gas he pays the same tax as Daddy Warbucks on his 20 gallon purchase.

The subject was state taxes, Gasbag. I pay tens of thousands less in state taxes in Washington than I would if, for example, I lived in your right-wing nirvana of Idaho. Washington is a low tax environment for those with high incomes. If you claim otherwise, your argument is with arithmetic. Washington lets the Race Bannons of the world pay a much higher percentage of their incomes in taxes and fees because we won't enact an income tax. That's regressive to people who speak English and know money is fungible.

 

[RaceBannon]

I know actual rich people in Washington
H is lying. As usual
Loves to tax the poor though. Can't get enough.

 

[Sledog]

Dazzler thinks Amazon pays for all their gas.

 

[HHusky]

I know actual rich people in Washington
H is lying. As usual
Loves to tax the poor though. Can't get enough.

They've never mentioned they know you to me.

 

[RaceBannon]

So what we have here is a Democrat making fun of poor people to argue for a 9 billion dollar tax hike and he wants an income tax and no tax cuts or spending cuts. Why won't the GOP go along guys?
Even in Soviet Washington the voters don't trust the democrats enough to give them an income tax

 

[PurpleThrobber]

I just can’t understand why the Republicans with all their power in the state govt won’t just fix the regressive taxes. FFS.

The problem is that "regressive taxes" really don't mean anything. If everyone pays the same tax rate, it is hardly regressive unless you just redefine the term. If you pay zero federal income taxes and have a marginal rate of 0%, it's hard to say that someone paying $3 million in federal income taxes and has a marginal tax rate of 37% is benefiting from a regressive tax. If Joe Blow buys 20 gallons of gas he pays the same tax as Daddy Warbucks on his 20 gallon purchase.

The subject was state taxes, Gasbag. I pay tens of thousands less in state taxes in Washington than I would if, for example, I lived in your right-wing nirvana of Idaho. Washington is a low tax environment for those with high incomes. If you claim otherwise, your argument is with arithmetic. Washington lets the Race Bannons of the world pay a much higher percentage of their incomes in taxes and fees because we won't enact an income tax. That's regressive to people who speak English and know money is fungible.

I like how you dodged by using 'state taxes'.
Because property taxes are levied/collected at the county level.
So, sure.gif

 

[RaceBannon]

Property taxes were raised again too. Voters were over ruled to save democracy

 

[HHusky]

I just can’t understand why the Republicans with all their power in the state govt won’t just fix the regressive taxes. FFS.

The problem is that "regressive taxes" really don't mean anything. If everyone pays the same tax rate, it is hardly regressive unless you just redefine the term. If you pay zero federal income taxes and have a marginal rate of 0%, it's hard to say that someone paying $3 million in federal income taxes and has a marginal tax rate of 37% is benefiting from a regressive tax. If Joe Blow buys 20 gallons of gas he pays the same tax as Daddy Warbucks on his 20 gallon purchase.

The subject was state taxes, Gasbag. I pay tens of thousands less in state taxes in Washington than I would if, for example, I lived in your right-wing nirvana of Idaho. Washington is a low tax environment for those with high incomes. If you claim otherwise, your argument is with arithmetic. Washington lets the Race Bannons of the world pay a much higher percentage of their incomes in taxes and fees because we won't enact an income tax. That's regressive to people who speak English and know money is fungible.

I like how you dodged by using 'state taxes'.
Because property taxes are levied/collected at the county level.
So, sure.gif

I was including property taxes, which are governed by state law regardless of who assesses and collects them. How pray tell would the "dodge" you were accusing me of even work? Idaho has a property tax. A sales tax too, for that matter.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Here's a house for sale in CDA $850K Address is 3623 W Hillcrest Circle - couple blocks from the CDA Public Course.
Annual property taxes 2023 $3,822. 2024 assessment down 10.2%

House in Spokane currently listed for sale at $850K - adequate neighborhood. 329 N Lower Crossing St
Annual property taxes 2023 $6,251. 2024 assessment up 5.4%.

Now do that over and over again for things like license tabs, hunting and fishing licenses, gas tax, B&O/excise tax on and on.
Bullshit on paying tens of thousands of dollars less in 'state' taxes.
Add on a minimum wage that is massively inflated in Washington over Idaho- you're paying alright. You're paying left and right and up and down.

 

[HHusky]

So what we have here is a Democrat making fun of poor people to argue for a 9 billion dollar tax hike and he wants an income tax and no tax cuts or spending cuts. Why won't the GOP go along guys?
Even in Soviet Washington the voters don't trust the democrats enough to give them an income tax

I already said some taxes would have to go in order to get the votes for an income tax. You're just afraid to engage honestly.
Is it possible you being poor might be related to you being a pussy?

 

[HHusky]

Here's a house for sale in CDA $850K Address is 3623 W Hillcrest Circle - couple blocks from the CDA Public Course.
Annual property taxes 2023 $3,822. 2024 assessment down 10.2%

House in Spokane currently listed for sale at $850K - adequate neighborhood. 329 N Lower Crossing St
Annual property taxes 2023 $6,251. 2024 assessment up 5.4%.

Now do that over and over again for things like license tabs, hunting and fishing licenses, gas tax, B&O/excise tax on and on.
Bullshit on paying tens of thousands of dollars less in 'state' taxes.
Add on a minimum wage that is massively inflated in Washington over Idaho- you're paying alright. You're paying left and right and up and down.

So, tens of thousands of dollars in Idaho income tax are offset by the fact I'd pay a $2,000 to $3,000 less in property taxes. Must be the new math, for those old enough to remember that phrase.

 

[RaceBannon]

So what we have here is a Democrat making fun of poor people to argue for a 9 billion dollar tax hike and he wants an income tax and no tax cuts or spending cuts. Why won't the GOP go along guys?
Even in Soviet Washington the voters don't trust the democrats enough to give them an income tax

I already said some taxes would have to go in order to get the votes for an income tax. You're just afraid to engage honestly.
Is it possible you being poor might be related to you being a pussy?

Give me a fucking list

 

[RaceBannon]

So what we have here is a Democrat making fun of poor people to argue for a 9 billion dollar tax hike and he wants an income tax and no tax cuts or spending cuts. Why won't the GOP go along guys?
Even in Soviet Washington the voters don't trust the democrats enough to give them an income tax

Ready anytime you are Doris

 

[HHusky]

So what we have here is a Democrat making fun of poor people to argue for a 9 billion dollar tax hike and he wants an income tax and no tax cuts or spending cuts. Why won't the GOP go along guys?
Even in Soviet Washington the voters don't trust the democrats enough to give them an income tax

I already said some taxes would have to go in order to get the votes for an income tax. You're just afraid to engage honestly.
Is it possible you being poor might be related to you being a pussy?

Give me a fucking list

If the GOP is concerned about "the little guy", they'd talk about lowering and capping sales taxes, gas taxes, and property taxes as part of the deal. If all they'll insist upon is eliminating the estate and capital gains taxes, I'll let you draw your own conclusions about who they're looking out for.

 

[RaceBannon]

Everyone wants those taxes eliminated
Except democrats
Fuck off. You've defended every tax known to man including all of those. You voted for the faggots that passed them

 

[HHusky]

Everyone wants those taxes eliminated
Except democrats
Fuck off. You've defended every tax known to man including all of those. You voted for the faggots that passed them

Hey old fella, pretty sure sales, gas, and property taxes existed before I was born.

 

[RaceBannon]

Negotiations are over

 

[Bob_C]

Cut the other taxes first and we can talk.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Here's a house for sale in CDA $850K Address is 3623 W Hillcrest Circle - couple blocks from the CDA Public Course.
Annual property taxes 2023 $3,822. 2024 assessment down 10.2%

House in Spokane currently listed for sale at $850K - adequate neighborhood. 329 N Lower Crossing St
Annual property taxes 2023 $6,251. 2024 assessment up 5.4%.

Now do that over and over again for things like license tabs, hunting and fishing licenses, gas tax, B&O/excise tax on and on.
Bullshit on paying tens of thousands of dollars less in 'state' taxes.
Add on a minimum wage that is massively inflated in Washington over Idaho- you're paying alright. You're paying left and right and up and down.

So, tens of thousands of dollars in Idaho income tax are offset by the fact I'd pay a $2,000 to $3,000 less in property taxes. Must be the new math, for those old enough to remember that phrase.

You’re not paying “tens of thousands of dollars”. GTFO