The biggest threat we face

[creepycoug]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

 

[Swaye]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.

There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!

 

[HHusky]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.

There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!

You seem perilously close to calling them "the jayvee team".

 

[CuntWaffle]

Love HH's inside "jokes" to himself.

 

[Swaye]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.

There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!

You seem perilously close to calling them "the jayvee team".

That's being generous. More like the Freshman team benchwarmers. These people are not smart. They aren't usually in the same zip code as smart. Lucky for everyone the numbers stay down due to lawn tractor accidents and other forms of accidental death usually starting with "Darryl watch this!"

 

[HHusky]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.

There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!

You seem perilously close to calling them "the jayvee team".

That's being generous. More like the Freshman team benchwarmers. These people are not smart. They aren't usually in the same zip code as smart. Lucky for everyone the numbers stay down due to lawn tractor accidents and other forms of accidental death usually starting with "Darryl watch this!"

But the subject was the greatest terrorist[/b] threat to the US. Despite blob's attempts at distraction, it's simply a fact that these alt/right, room temperature IQ types have dominated the stat sheet for ideologically motivated terror for years now.

 

[creepycoug]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.

There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!

Sure, serious, organized, camped out and armed white supremacy groups are not found on every neighborhood block. My only real disagreement with your post is the idea that you have to go deep into the super rural areas of the southeast to find it. You really don't. You can find it, for example, all over central Florida, especially, believe it or not, in the areas surrounding Orlando. Places like Deland, for example. You can walk into restaurants there and feel like you've been caught in a time warp.

Again, to be clear, I don't think the country is going to succumb to white racism any more than I was in fear of the great migrant assault on the southern border that had people I'm ashamed to know running to the gun store to stock up on ammo because "shit [was apparently] gettin' real." 20,000 is pretty optimistic, but I don't have an official count either. But people who are openly hostile or have disdain for black people in the US? Yes, and heavy in the southeast and, according to my uncle, who politically is just north of Sleddy, some parts of Texas. I know less about Texas and a whole lot more about central Florida, particularly the Lake Okeechobee region.

The PNW is not that.

 

[Swaye]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.

There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!

Sure, serious, organized, camped out and armed white supremacy groups are not found on every neighborhood block. My only real disagreement with your post is the idea that you have to go deep into the super rural areas of the southeast to find it. You really don't. You can find it, for example, all over central Florida, especially, believe it or not, in the areas surrounding Orlando. Places like Deland, for example. You can walk into restaurants there and feel like you've been caught in a time warp.

Again, to be clear, I don't think the country is going to succumb to white racism any more than I was in fear of the great migrant assault on the southern border that had people I'm ashamed to know running to the gun store to stock up on ammo because "shit [was apparently] gettin' real." 20,000 is pretty optimistic, but I don't have an official count either. But people who are openly hostile or have disdain for black people in the US? Yes, and heavy in the southeast and, according to my uncle, who politically is just north of Sleddy, some parts of Texas. I know less about Texas and a whole lot more about central Florida, particularly the Lake Okeechobee region.

The PNW is not that.

I think our only real disagreement is likely it's distance from population centers. Hell there are organized groups IN population centers (see Tallahassee and Jacksonville), but my point is, having lived in both of those cities in my life (and Orlando, Pensacola, Dallas, Corpus Christie, Meridien, etc.) there is not some huge organized white supremacy gang out there trying to lynch blacks on the reg in rural or urban areas. There are pockets, mostly in really rural areas, where this KKK/Aryan Nation stuff has a heartbeat. Soft racism? Sure, you can see that in the Shenandoah Valley an hour from where I live. It's not hard to find, but not exactly a pandemic of "hate darkie" either.

In short, I think the "white racism" boogeyman is MASSIVELY overblown, and ffs I hate white people!

 

[Sledog]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.

There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!

Sure, serious, organized, camped out and armed white supremacy groups are not found on every neighborhood block. My only real disagreement with your post is the idea that you have to go deep into the super rural areas of the southeast to find it. You really don't. You can find it, for example, all over central Florida, especially, believe it or not, in the areas surrounding Orlando. Places like Deland, for example. You can walk into restaurants there and feel like you've been caught in a time warp.

Again, to be clear, I don't think the country is going to succumb to white racism any more than I was in fear of the great migrant assault on the southern border that had people I'm ashamed to know running to the gun store to stock up on ammo because "shit [was apparently] gettin' real." 20,000 is pretty optimistic, but I don't have an official count either. But people who are openly hostile or have disdain for black people in the US? Yes, and heavy in the southeast and, according to my uncle, who politically is just north of Sleddy, some parts of Texas. I know less about Texas and a whole lot more about central Florida, particularly the Lake Okeechobee region.

The PNW is not that.

Florida has a shitload of hillbillies.

 

[creepycoug]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.

There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!

Sure, serious, organized, camped out and armed white supremacy groups are not found on every neighborhood block. My only real disagreement with your post is the idea that you have to go deep into the super rural areas of the southeast to find it. You really don't. You can find it, for example, all over central Florida, especially, believe it or not, in the areas surrounding Orlando. Places like Deland, for example. You can walk into restaurants there and feel like you've been caught in a time warp.

Again, to be clear, I don't think the country is going to succumb to white racism any more than I was in fear of the great migrant assault on the southern border that had people I'm ashamed to know running to the gun store to stock up on ammo because "shit [was apparently] gettin' real." 20,000 is pretty optimistic, but I don't have an official count either. But people who are openly hostile or have disdain for black people in the US? Yes, and heavy in the southeast and, according to my uncle, who politically is just north of Sleddy, some parts of Texas. I know less about Texas and a whole lot more about central Florida, particularly the Lake Okeechobee region.

The PNW is not that.

I think our only real disagreement is likely it's distance from population centers. Hell there are organized groups IN population centers (see Tallahassee and Jacksonville), but my point is, having lived in both of those cities in my life (and Orlando, Pensacola, Dallas, Corpus Christie, Meridien, etc.) there is not some huge organized white supremacy gang out there trying to lynch blacks on the reg in rural or urban areas.[/b] There are pockets, mostly in really rural areas, where this KKK/Aryan Nation stuff has a heartbeat. Soft racism? Sure, you can see that in the Shenandoah Valley an hour from where I live. It's not hard to find, but not exactly a pandemic of "hate darkie" either.

In short, I think the "white racism" boogeyman is MASSIVELY overblown, and ffs I hate white people!

Agreed. It's not, or doesn't seem, dangerous.

 

[Sledog]

I mind having communist groups out burning down cities, blocking highways, rioting, murdering and attacking anyone that disagrees with them. Much greater problem than white supremacy.

 

[RoadDawg55]

I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.
http://twitter.com/JazzShaw/status/1512892103159808002

East St. Louis has a population of less than 20,000.

Did you maybe mean (non-directional) St. Louis?

Nope, I meant the suburban St. Louis shit hole East St. Louis, which for years had one of the higher murder rates in the country and it wasn't white supremacists that were doing the killing.

Congrats to the Kansas City Jayhawks poast of the day.

https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-East-St.-Louis-Illinois.html

Just because it only has 20K people, doesn't mean East St. Louis, IL isn't one of the most dangerous places in the country.

Now go back and work on your Russian state narrative homework, Dazzler. Stats are clearly not your forte'.

blob said "body counts[/i]" originally. He swiftly went to murder rates[/i] to suggest he really meant to say East St. Louis.

Chicago, Baltimore and St. Louis get grouped in these discussions of murder numbers all the time. The tiny town of East St. Louis, not so much.

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Are you fucking retarded?

Statistics are adjusted on a per capita basis.

Tool.

"Body counts[/b]" are not adjusted on a per capita basis.

Just how much money do you owe blob anyway?

For 20,000 people, that murder rate is a body count.

Tool. Fuck off.

You girls are really married to this narrative, aren't you?

The truth is that blob's desire to emphasize murderous merged with his desire to emphasize blackness. Thus he grouped Chicago, Baltimore and East[/b] St. Louis as if they are somehow peers. (East St. Louis is there simply for its overwhelming blackness.)

He won't even admit it on an anonymous message bored. Sad!

Why do you enjoy unfunny trolling so much? You are still on about this when we all know why he made the point. And no, it’s not racist. East St Louis is a dangerous area.

 

[SFGbob]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?

 

[Fire_Marshall_Bill]

I haven't been to hick inbred creationist areas like Alabama but I have been to VA @Swaye and FL (3 x). Yes, I'm sure there's soft racism and maybe it's easy for a white guy to talk but the domestic terrorist groups are few and far between. The SPLC once was a good org, but now it's devolved into labeling right of center churches as racist shitbags or something. It's the same thing as labeling Trump and LA Pen as far right nazis. @creepycoug

 

[Pitchfork51]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you are probably gay[/b].

crisped

 

[creepycoug]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?

Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.

 

[MikeDamone]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?

Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.

And the bottom line is the USA is the least racist country on earth and black people are certainly not looking for refugee status anywhere. And in fact, black people, like people of all races are lining up to get in to the point they will risk their life to come here.

 

[SFGbob]

[/QUOTE]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?

Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.

So basically, the Christian right might do something is your response. Pathetic.

 

[SFGbob]

If you're a victim of a violent crime in America today what's the likelihood that a white supremacist is the person who carried out that crime?

Homocide is the leading cause of death for black males under the age of 40. What percentage of those being killed were killed by white supremacists? Is it even .10 of 1%?

 

[WestlinnDuck]

The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.

Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?

Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.

It's not that complicated. It may be hard, but the basic factors leading to a prosperous civilized society are out there. It's not complicated that an intact family with an active father is a recipe for economic success and a safe society. It's not complicated that violent felons should be in prison for a long time and that petty crime needs to be dealt with a serious punishment and repeat offenders need to be isolated. Secure borders aren't complicated. Not voting for democrat leftards isn't that complicated.