That Harbaugh guy
- Thread starter doogsinparadise
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I wouldn't call them a shitty team. The Niners he took over are similar to UW. Shit talent for skill positions on offense other than Gore - Davis was OK - and good to great talent on defense.
TierbsHsotBoobs
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Great contradiction as always.
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creepycoug
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I've said it before I'll say it again: coaching matters more in college football than any other sport I'm aware of. Great coaches make their mark almost immediately and in some cases immediately . Bob stoops urban Meyer Jimmy Johnson Nick Saban and now add Jim Harbaugh to the list as if we didn't already know. Fucker can coach Michigan was a hot fucking mess a year ago and look at them now
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TierbsHsotBoobs
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Not really sure Bob Stoops belongs on that list anymore...
creepycoug
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He has slipped lately but remember what a shit show Oklahoma was before he got there. Before that as a DC he had the same effect; he could turn around a defense anywhere almost immediately upon his arrival no matter how bad they'd been. maybe he's just gotten too comfortable in Norman.
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creepycoug
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I agree with the other guy. I need to see a title at either level before he goes in that monument. But I agree; he is amazing at the quick turnaround.
True - and it's not so much that Harbaugh is awesome. Harbaugh is simply one of the few who can coach.
Slingblade, Leach, Sark, Willingham, Bielema, on and on - how the FUCK do these guys get multi-million dollar jobs? They'd last about 2.4 hours in the real world.
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PurpleReign
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With Harbaugh you just need his boss to give hime some breathing room and let his personality have some space. I think the Niners admin got up in his face and shit went down.
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Rainman.
Took USD to a conference title in his second year there as well. He's damn good, but as already posted, needs to win a real title before joining the Saban/Meyer club.
great job so far, but brady joke had some top ten recruiting classes
FremontTroll
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That is a simplistic analysis. But so is stating that great coaches win immediately no matter what.
If you followed Michigan closely over the past few years you would know that Hoke brought in a lot of talent especially on the defensive side where Mattison was a great closer but Hoke was possibly the worst head coach in the history of college football so it was all wasted. Some facts:
-Michigan's defense starts only one underclassmen- super stud Jabrill Peppers- and there are only 3 sophomores in total in the two-deeps (no freshmen.)
-Michigan's defensive two-deeps consist of two 5*, thirteen 4* and seven 3* recruits.
-Wayne Lyons was a two-year starter at Stanford. He transferred for Harbaugh and is now third string at Michigan and barely plays.
-Defense was never the problem for Hoke. Mattison was a good coordinator and his defenses were generally stingy. The problem was that the offenses were abysmal. First you had Al Borges and his antiquated ideas of SMASHMOUTH football (see a hilarious woog article from 2013:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-borges-new-offense-will-take-nation-by-storm)
Borges was Hoke's fall guy but unlike for Sark that only bought him one more year. Hoke brought in Nussmeier for 2014 but by then it was such a dumpster fire there wasn't anything Nussmeier could do to save it.
Michigan's offense in 2015 still isn't great but marginal improvements can go along way when you have the talent on defense that they do.
All that being said- I expected Michigan to be good and have made good money betting them on the spread thus far this year but I didn't expect them to be THIS GOOD. This has the potential to be an all-time great defense. Unfortunately their schedule is awful and they don't play anyone legit until the Big Game on November 28th. I guess we will find out then what Harbaugh is worth.