Thank god I don’t work for the federal government

The fact is that the federal government has used contractors and NGOs to leverage federal employees. The real issue is what are the leveraged federal employees accomplishing. Education is a minus return on investment. The EPA is focused on CO2 a non-pollutant and pushing further clean air and water proposals with massive costs and minimal benefits. Our entire Department of Homeland Security is dedicated to importing illegals and then paying tens of billions to support them. Another negative return on investment. Cutting out huge chunks of these departments is not cutting muscle.
 
WestlinnDuck said:
The fact is that the federal government has used contractors and NGOs to leverage federal employees. The real issue is what are the leveraged federal employees accomplishing. Education is a minus return on investment. The EPA is focused on CO2 a non-pollutant and pushing further clean air and water proposals with massive costs and minimal benefits. Our entire Department of Homeland Security is dedicated to importing illegals and then paying tens of billions to support them. Another negative return on investment. Cutting out huge chunks of these departments is not cutting muscle.
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I agree with some of your points. But these are low hanging fruits in terms of our overall government, and I don’t want to see DOGE’s work STOp at reforming departments that are Democratic Party darlings.
In short, everything needs to be overhauled.
 
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Doog_de_Jour said:
WestlinnDuck said:
The fact is that the federal government has used contractors and NGOs to leverage federal employees. The real issue is what are the leveraged federal employees accomplishing. Education is a minus return on investment. The EPA is focused on CO2 a non-pollutant and pushing further clean air and water proposals with massive costs and minimal benefits. Our entire Department of Homeland Security is dedicated to importing illegals and then paying tens of billions to support them. Another negative return on investment. Cutting out huge chunks of these departments is not cutting muscle.
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I agree with some of your points. But these are low hanging fruits in terms of our overall government, and I don’t want to see DOGE’s work STOp at reforming departments that are Democratic Party darlings.
In short, everything needs to be overhauled.
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I didn't/don't disagree with any of that. OSHA on the move to keep rural America safe unionized. Our federal bureaucracy is orientated to demanding union employees and assumes and unlimited budget. As it is volunteer rural fire departments are already having trouble attracting young volunteers.https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2024...ter-80-of-volunteer-fire-departments-n4934276
New OSHA Emergency Response Standards Could Shutter 80% of Volunteer Fire Departments
Rick Moran | 9:54 AM on November 14, 2024  
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) is seeking final approval for a massive overhaul of the "Fire Brigade Standard" that's been in place for 50 years. The 608 pages of new rules, quite simply, would mean that about 80% of volunteer fire departments in the United States would be forced to cease operations.
“Over 85 percent of America’s fire departments are either volunteer or mostly volunteer. Nearly 700,000 of America’s 1,056,000 firefighters are volunteers or paid per call firefighters,” a group of lawmakers, led by Sens. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) and Christopher Coons (D-Del.) said in a statement. “The proposed rule would apply to more workers than the existing standard and would require fire departments to furnish new reports, trainings, equipment, and health services.”
 
Department of Defense can be both leaner and meaner
Lots of waste there. Too much incest between manufacturers and buyers
meanwhile we are less prepared to fight
I do believe this will be a major effort and it will get gop blowback
 
RaceBannon said:
Department of Defense can be both leaner and meaner
Lots of waste there. Too much incest between manufacturers and buyers
meanwhile we are less prepared to fight
I do believe this will be a major effort and it will get gop blowback
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MIC lobbyists don’t have any sort of relationship or history with Hegseth, so apparently that upsets the DC slush fund funded by people like you and me.
We really need another former Raytheon/Blackrock board member running the show because that’s how it is run these days … say retarded “experts” on Democrat/UniParty television shows who still can’t grasp why Trump was elected.
 
RaceBannon said:
Department of Defense can be both leaner and meaner
Lots of waste there. Too much incest between manufacturers and buyers
meanwhile we are less prepared to fight
I do believe this will be a major effort and it will get gop blowback
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That’s kinda what I was getting at. Will DOGE be as ruthless with the “untouchable” parts (at least, in the eyes of traditional, read: corrupt, politicians) of the federal government like DoD and Social Security?

BTW, I’m NOT saying gut the military - don’t twist - if anything you should be beefing up our security given what’s going on in the world right now…but the fact that many of our service people (TYFYS) need to pay for their own basic shit out of pocket (like teachers) shows how messed up the system is. I would assume, like DOE, that there’s lots of fat cat administrators that aren’t adding any real value.

Oh, and speaking of DoD, I hope Musk lets other DOGE people handle that…even if it’s not a direct conflict of interest, given his SpaceX company, the appearance of it is there, which is concerning.
 
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Doog_de_Jour said:
RaceBannon said:
Department of Defense can be both leaner and meaner
Lots of waste there. Too much incest between manufacturers and buyers
meanwhile we are less prepared to fight
I do believe this will be a major effort and it will get gop blowback
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That’s kinda what I was getting at. Will DOGE be as ruthless with the “untouchable” parts (at least, in the eyes of traditional, read: corrupt, politicians) of the federal government like DoD and Social Security?

BTW, I’m NOT saying gut the military - don’t twist - if anything you should be beefing up our security given what’s going on in the world right now…but the fact that many of our service people (TYFYS) need to pay for their own basic shit out of pocket (like teachers) shows how messed up the system is. I would assume, like DOE, that there’s lots of fat cat administrators that aren’t adding any real value.

Oh, and speaking of DoD, I hope Musk lets other DOGE people handle that…even if it’s not a direct conflict of interest, given his SpaceX company, the appearance of it is there, which is concerning.
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Lots of things are concerning. Musk being honest and looking out for the country's interest isn't one of them. He lost billions buying Twitter and had the dems deep state start investigating him on all fronts and all just to provide an honest social media platform. SpaceX is killing Boeing's Starliner and Bezos's Blue Origin and yet they are getting much larger amounts of government revenue for stuff that doesn't work. Pence was concerned about a potential conflict of interest which didn't exist. How did that work out? No matter what or how Musk and Vivek do what they will do the left will be howling like Mad Dogs versus actually dealing with the real issue. Look at how they reacted to basic attempts to insure an honest national voting mechanism for federal elections.
 
Musk is concerning cleaning up DoD’s efficiency. But a Raytheon board member as Defense Secretary is business as usual. Should be praised really.
 
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Doog_de_Jour said:
RaceBannon said:
Department of Defense can be both leaner and meaner
Lots of waste there. Too much incest between manufacturers and buyers
meanwhile we are less prepared to fight
I do believe this will be a major effort and it will get gop blowback
Click to expand...
That’s kinda what I was getting at. Will DOGE be as ruthless with the “untouchable” parts (at least, in the eyes of traditional, read: corrupt, politicians) of the federal government like DoD and Social Security?

BTW, I’m NOT saying gut the military - don’t twist - if anything you should be beefing up our security given what’s going on in the world right now…but the fact that many of our service people (TYFYS) need to pay for their own basic shit out of pocket (like teachers) shows how messed up the system is. I would assume, like DOE, that there’s lots of fat cat administrators that aren’t adding any real value.

Oh, and speaking of DoD, I hope Musk lets other DOGE people handle that…even if it’s not a direct conflict of interest, given his SpaceX company, the appearance of it is there, which is concerning.
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I think hegseth will modernize our military... and that is good.... spending probably won't go down though....
 
Goduckies said:
Doog_de_Jour said:
RaceBannon said:
Department of Defense can be both leaner and meaner
Lots of waste there. Too much incest between manufacturers and buyers
meanwhile we are less prepared to fight
I do believe this will be a major effort and it will get gop blowback
Click to expand...
That’s kinda what I was getting at. Will DOGE be as ruthless with the “untouchable” parts (at least, in the eyes of traditional, read: corrupt, politicians) of the federal government like DoD and Social Security?

BTW, I’m NOT saying gut the military - don’t twist - if anything you should be beefing up our security given what’s going on in the world right now…but the fact that many of our service people (TYFYS) need to pay for their own basic shit out of pocket (like teachers) shows how messed up the system is. I would assume, like DOE, that there’s lots of fat cat administrators that aren’t adding any real value.

Oh, and speaking of DoD, I hope Musk lets other DOGE people handle that…even if it’s not a direct conflict of interest, given his SpaceX company, the appearance of it is there, which is concerning.
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I think hegseth will modernize our military... and that is good.... spending probably won't go down though....
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Yeah, I don't know how you modernize our military might and surpass China's military and save money. This will continue to be a big budget and rightfully so. Look at the chaos around the globe right now. biden and Headboard were seen as lightweights. The left was trying to show them who was boss by forcing dei and dresses on men into our military and look where the world is today.
Peace through strength. Rat socialist/communist/fascist global utopia is a made-up dream, a disaster that is unfolding before our very eyes.
 
One can rebuild the military without enriching the Blackrocks and Raytheon with lucrative contracts to manage military outposts in hundreds of global locations.
We have no reason to be in Germany now unless they really do stop purchasing oil and gas from Russia. It makes no sense. Close down Rammstein as a start.
 
EverettChris said:
One can rebuild the military without enriching the Blackrocks and Raytheon with lucrative contracts to manage military outposts in hundreds of global locations.
We have no reason to be in Germany now unless they really do stop purchasing oil and gas from Russia. It makes no sense. Close down Rammstein as a start.
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