Tariffs Worked “Spectacularly Well”

UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pitchfork51 said:
A real world example is that we are doing our first runs of a couple lines in Taiwan this week and Mexico in the next couple weeks.

This is a major hit for China. After Covid every company that isn’t retarded made some inroads toward moving away but didn’t really pull the trigger. Because no one is going to go full hog unless really forced because it takes investment in these other places as they aren’t as ready to go out of the box.
The tariff situation has forced their hand and once the investments are made to move from China they aren’t going to go back.

So let’s say using the company I’m at we move a third of our stuff. Of course it’s the most important high dollar products. The lesser ones can stay and/or move away with less urgency.

That hits an export economy like China in a big way and even more devastating, every bit of investment into other competing counties snowballs and makes them more competitive over time.

China has been acting like an asshole for so long that their companies are going to have to make major changes to make it worth doing business with again. The shady shit they get up to is absurd. And the domestic regulatory agencies are fed up with it so it keeps putting a bigger burden on the importer to do more crap.

So when dumbasses are like ”hardy har har it’s just a tax!” they completely miss the point.
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Yeah, new foreign investment is doa for China unless they have dirt on you (Ray Dalio).
Other markets are going to continue to scale and eat their lunch in 100 different sectors.
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Or you're a corrupt politician they own.
 
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The dems talking point on tariffs is just what the Tug leftards are regurgitating. It's a tax paid by the US consumer. No nuance, no discussion of the actual dynamics of tariffs and for the first time ever, crocodile tears on how taxes are devastating hard working Americans. Meanwhile every dem in Congress voted against the big beautiful bill which will lower energy costs to US consumers and stop the imposition of the largest tax increase on middle class Americans. Meanwhile the Washington legislature just passed their last budget with huge new taxes on Washington citizens. Currently, the Oregon legislature is being called into special session to pass huge increases in gas taxes and vehicle registration and payroll taxes.
 
HuskyBuck said:
Ford Paid $800 Million in Tariff Costs Over 3 Months, Despite Building Most of Its Cars in America
Tariffs worked spectacularly well indeed!!

Didn’t I tell you Ford was gonna report this? Your tariff revenue you’re bragging about is coming from American companies and consumers! Trump just knows people are dumb like the original poster to notice!!!
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You only use first-order thinking. “Americans pay for the tariffs.”

While technically true, it’s brazenly myopic. Until you can reason beyond that narrow mindset, it’s not worth talking about.

Hope this helps.
 
UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pitchfork51 said:
A real world example is that we are doing our first runs of a couple lines in Taiwan this week and Mexico in the next couple weeks.

This is a major hit for China. After Covid every company that isn’t retarded made some inroads toward moving away but didn’t really pull the trigger. Because no one is going to go full hog unless really forced because it takes investment in these other places as they aren’t as ready to go out of the box.
The tariff situation has forced their hand and once the investments are made to move from China they aren’t going to go back.

So let’s say using the company I’m at we move a third of our stuff. Of course it’s the most important high dollar products. The lesser ones can stay and/or move away with less urgency.

That hits an export economy like China in a big way and even more devastating, every bit of investment into other competing counties snowballs and makes them more competitive over time.

China has been acting like an asshole for so long that their companies are going to have to make major changes to make it worth doing business with again. The shady shit they get up to is absurd. And the domestic regulatory agencies are fed up with it so it keeps putting a bigger burden on the importer to do more crap.

So when dumbasses are like ”hardy har har it’s just a tax!” they completely miss the point.
Click to expand...
Yeah, new foreign investment is doa for China unless they have dirt on you (Ray Dalio).
Other markets are going to continue to scale and eat their lunch in 100 different sectors.
Click to expand...
Yeah it’s still a bit of a challenge because China doesn’t just have the manufacturers, they have a whole supply chain for the manufacturers like labeling, etc.
But the Chinese manufacturers are just so shady lately and a lot of them are flagged by the FDA to the point that saving a bit of money just isn’t worth it. Not if you have to pay people domestically to fix a bunch of stuff that they aren’t doing.

For example we had to pay like 15 grand for all this shit to confirm that barcodes are legible and print out a special report for the FDA. Like whenever we receive a new lot of products in one of the warehouses we have to run 10 or so through it and have a special report. Legit this is something the manufacturer should do or get from their labeler company whatever and it’s so absurd.

Not to mention of course the real number 1 issue, which is that they just sell your designs directly to your competitors haha.
 
Pitchfork51 said:
UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pitchfork51 said:
A real world example is that we are doing our first runs of a couple lines in Taiwan this week and Mexico in the next couple weeks.

This is a major hit for China. After Covid every company that isn’t retarded made some inroads toward moving away but didn’t really pull the trigger. Because no one is going to go full hog unless really forced because it takes investment in these other places as they aren’t as ready to go out of the box.
The tariff situation has forced their hand and once the investments are made to move from China they aren’t going to go back.

So let’s say using the company I’m at we move a third of our stuff. Of course it’s the most important high dollar products. The lesser ones can stay and/or move away with less urgency.

That hits an export economy like China in a big way and even more devastating, every bit of investment into other competing counties snowballs and makes them more competitive over time.

China has been acting like an asshole for so long that their companies are going to have to make major changes to make it worth doing business with again. The shady shit they get up to is absurd. And the domestic regulatory agencies are fed up with it so it keeps putting a bigger burden on the importer to do more crap.

So when dumbasses are like ”hardy har har it’s just a tax!” they completely miss the point.
Click to expand...
Yeah, new foreign investment is doa for China unless they have dirt on you (Ray Dalio).
Other markets are going to continue to scale and eat their lunch in 100 different sectors.
Click to expand...
Yeah it’s still a bit of a challenge because China doesn’t just have the manufacturers, they have a whole supply chain for the manufacturers like labeling, etc.
But the Chinese manufacturers are just so shady lately and a lot of them are flagged by the FDA to the point that saving a bit of money just isn’t worth it. Not if you have to pay people domestically to fix a bunch of stuff that they aren’t doing.

For example we had to pay like 15 grand for all this shit to confirm that barcodes are legible and print out a special report for the FDA. Like whenever we receive a new lot of products in one of the warehouses we have to run 10 or so through it and have a special report. Legit this is something the manufacturer should do or get from their labeler company whatever and it’s so absurd.

Not to mention of course the real number 1 issue, which is that they just sell your designs directly to your competitors haha.
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It's only going to get worse as Chinese suppliers continue to get squeezed. They only know how to be shady, they can't innovate their way out of a bag.
Used to work overseas in supply chain. As annoying as the Indians can be to work with at times they can't even imagine being as shady as the Chinese are on a day to day basis.
Street sewage cooking oil comes to mind. That's really just small potatoes too. Be glad you never went to China to be "influenced" like Hunter or Tim did.
 
EverettChris said:
*pennies per hour
Can’t even edit now without a glitch.
Anyhow, pay your fucking bill, Troll.
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WestlinnDuck said:
The dems talking point on tariffs is just what the Tug leftards are regurgitating. It's a tax paid by the US consumer. No nuance, no discussion of the actual dynamics of tariffs and for the first time ever, crocodile tears on how taxes are devastating hard working Americans. Meanwhile every dem in Congress voted against the big beautiful bill which will lower energy costs to US consumers and stop the imposition of the largest tax increase on middle class Americans. Meanwhile the Washington legislature just passed their last budget with huge new taxes on Washington citizens. Currently, the Oregon legislature is being called into special session to pass huge increases in gas taxes and vehicle registration and payroll taxes.
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Same thing. Tariffs or gas tax increases, you’re paying for both. Just one of those things is upfront about it.

Why do you think republicans wanna hide the jobs report now. You’ve got the double whammy of job creation getting hammered along with core CPI going up!

Trump knows conservatives are dumb and will continue to think exporting countries are paying for them!!!
 
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