Tariffs cost GM 1 billion dollars

BleachedAnusDawg said:
AOG said:
No, the Fusion was only 10k final year, years ago… Ford cars have been junk since the 70s at least, so that's no loss. The Accords and Camrys are still selling in the 200k to 300k range.

Ford Fusion Sales Figures
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Fusion 110k. That 10k number is leftover units sold the year after production ended.

Accord and Camry sales are both are declining with Accord well under 200k in 2024.
Why would anybody buy a sedan if they have a family? Pointless vehicle to own in that situation.
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Well, sedans aren't in vogue, but for the remaining market the imports are the only real contenders. American cars are still inferior in quality. I regret once in my life buying a new Ford. It was a pile of shit.
 
AOG said:
BleachedAnusDawg said:
AOG said:
No, the Fusion was only 10k final year, years ago… Ford cars have been junk since the 70s at least, so that's no loss. The Accords and Camrys are still selling in the 200k to 300k range.

Ford Fusion Sales Figures
Click to expand...
Fusion 110k. That 10k number is leftover units sold the year after production ended.

Accord and Camry sales are both are declining with Accord well under 200k in 2024.
Why would anybody buy a sedan if they have a family? Pointless vehicle to own in that situation.
Click to expand...
Well, sedans aren't in vogue, but for the remaining market the imports are the only real contenders. American cars are still inferior in quality. I regret once in my life buying a new Ford. It was a pile of shit.
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People that still say this about American cars haven't driven one or bought one in 20 years. If you base this off of some shitty Ford Escape or other rental car models than I guess you have a point. Could say the same about the worst vehicle I've ever driven which was a Toyota Rav-4.
 
BleachedAnusDawg said:
AOG said:
BleachedAnusDawg said:
AOG said:
No, the Fusion was only 10k final year, years ago… Ford cars have been junk since the 70s at least, so that's no loss. The Accords and Camrys are still selling in the 200k to 300k range.

Ford Fusion Sales Figures
Click to expand...
Fusion 110k. That 10k number is leftover units sold the year after production ended.

Accord and Camry sales are both are declining with Accord well under 200k in 2024.
Why would anybody buy a sedan if they have a family? Pointless vehicle to own in that situation.
Click to expand...
Well, sedans aren't in vogue, but for the remaining market the imports are the only real contenders. American cars are still inferior in quality. I regret once in my life buying a new Ford. It was a pile of shit.
Click to expand...
People that still say this about American cars haven't driven one or bought one in 20 years. If you base this off of some shitty Ford Escape or other rental car models than I guess you have a point. Could say the same about the worst vehicle I've ever driven which was a Toyota Rav-4.
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The Throbber has a rental Corolla hatchback this week

Fucking shit drive.

Cant quite see how this is the same company that made my Highlanders.
 
All cars are shit now. The emission requirements have destroyed the auto industry. So much added equipment that the engines are compromised. Basically every manufacturer has significant engine problems and transmission problems. The systems are complex cause a lot of added engine heat, break down and are very expensive to repair. The insanity just keeps getting pushed along to meet mileage and emissions requirements.
 
BleachedAnusDawg said:
AOG said:
BleachedAnusDawg said:
AOG said:
No, the Fusion was only 10k final year, years ago… Ford cars have been junk since the 70s at least, so that's no loss. The Accords and Camrys are still selling in the 200k to 300k range.

Ford Fusion Sales Figures
Click to expand...
Fusion 110k. That 10k number is leftover units sold the year after production ended.

Accord and Camry sales are both are declining with Accord well under 200k in 2024.
Why would anybody buy a sedan if they have a family? Pointless vehicle to own in that situation.
Click to expand...
Well, sedans aren't in vogue, but for the remaining market the imports are the only real contenders. American cars are still inferior in quality. I regret once in my life buying a new Ford. It was a pile of shit.
Click to expand...
People that still say this about American cars haven't driven one or bought one in 20 years. If you base this off of some shitty Ford Escape or other rental car models than I guess you have a point. Could say the same about the worst vehicle I've ever driven which was a Toyota Rav-4.
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Well, the Mustang is good probably.
 
Sledog said:
Nope.
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Yes, it is. The Coyote motor is a great platform for performance. The only problem with the Mustang is that it's no longer the affordable pony car it used to be.
Outside of style, old muscle cars are pretty lousy to actually drive (and I have driven many). Anyone who's objective and can look past the nostalgia would admit that.
 
BleachedAnusDawg said:
Sledog said:
Nope.
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Yes, it is. The Coyote motor is a great platform for performance. The only problem with the Mustang is that it's no longer the affordable pony car it used to be.
Outside of style, old muscle cars are pretty lousy to actually drive (and I have driven many). Anyone who's objective and can look past the nostalgia would admit that.
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Talking longevity and reliability or so I thought. Coyote is a complex pig.
 
Let’s see.

Much better USA trade friendly deal with Japan. Check.

Much better trade deal with the EU. Check.

Does anyone believe that there won’t be a better US trade deal with China soon?

Can’t wait to hear how this is bad for the US.
 
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