Syrian Civil War 2 - Middle East Boogaloo

Now that Iran is basically dead, this becomes an Israel Turkey shadow war.
 
EverettChris said:
Goduckies said:
EverettChris said:
RaceBannon said:
Wait until you see the other side PGOS
Strongman secular dictators are the lesser of two evils compared to mullahs and jihadis
The Shah was better than Khomeini
Assad pissed off Hilary and it's been destabilizing since
There are no good guys. Let them kill each other
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He must be young because we heard this same bullshit in the lead up to the Iraq War, which I was fooled into supporting at the time.
I was making the same arguments as PGOS but experience has given me the ability to see these same arguments for military intervention are made in each generation. It’s always about money. There hasn’t been a conflict worth entering after 12/8/1941 IMO. Nothing has been gained since other than military bases all over the world with contractors like Raytheon making billions from it.
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I had no issue hitting Afghanistan in 2001
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I had no issue hitting Afghanistan in 2001

Me neither, but after 20 years, the result is the Taliban still in charge, but with billions of dollars of our equipment and a fully functional military base Biden abandoned.
Totally worthless for everyone except politicians and warmongering military contractors.
Just like Iraq II.
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Hannity is a douche, but he's right when he says we don't fight wars to win them.
 
BleachedAnusDawg said:
pawz said:
I haven’t read any of this thread, and I’m not going to. Hiatus.

But that said, this bullshit has been going on over a decade.

Of course it’s about a natural gas pipeline. Did anyone actually believe it was about freedom?
RFKj first and right, again. From 2017.

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/rfk-jr-why-arabs-dont-trust-america-213601/
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I think it's more cultural with the nutty Islamist governments. If we had no interests in their oil they'd still want to blow us up.
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The original title of the 2016* article was "why arabs hate us". I remember reading it in real time.

I'm not suggesting islamic radicals are not part of the equation.

I'm saying, if I'm a born-and-raised citizen of Iraq for example, and I watch another country waltz in and kill a million of my people; after watching that country routinely and hypocritically dethrone "democratically" elected premiers throughout my region; whilst robbing my country's natural resources; on top of other complimentary rank-hypocrisies; I wouldn't need too many other secular reasons to loathe said country for the duration of my life.

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Aside from the invasion, the biggest Iraq mistake was firing all of the Baathists. They all became insurgents or supported them over night.
 
Not my problem.

Fight away, 2nd-worlders. We in the USA should be figuring out how the resources work for us best once the fighting subsides.
 
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CallMeBigErn said:
EverettChris said:
Why does The Left hate Christianity so much yet embrace Islam?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865195439483687285
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Western religions, all of them, are the most destructive and transparently ridiculous fables ever created. False prophets creating, twisting, and retelling ghost stories about the sweet hereafter and a higher power/calling to take the focus away from the self and to separate and indoctrinate. Stories from 3000 years ago where people wiped their ass with their own shit.
One thing leads to another and Aesop's Fables are in every hotel room in America, Israel, Russia, and Iran, top drawer below the light.
Boise State won yesterday because of Jesus, I'm hearing. FOH, coach guy. Your coaching and players won that game. Give yourself some credit eh.
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This ain't political or cultural, no matter how much you want it. It's a choice.
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Just when I thought I had a bead on how far down the double digit side of the IQ bell curve you are, you go and prove me a charitable fool.
 
Another IQ challenge.

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Four refugees are stranded on an island and must reach the safety of a distant shore. They have only one raft, and the waters are too dangerous to swim across the channel without it. The current flows strongly toward the island, so it requires two refugees paddling together to have enough strength to make it to the shore. The raft can carry at most two refugees at a time, and when they paddle together, they travel at the slower refugee's pace. The four refugees paddle at different speeds: one can reach the shore in 1 minute, another in 2 minutes, another in 5 minutes, and the slowest takes 10 minutes. What is the fastest time all the refugees can reach the shore?
 
CallMeBigErn said:
Four refugees are stranded on an island and must reach the safety of a distant shore. They have only one raft, and the waters are too dangerous to swim across the channel without it. The current flows strongly toward the island, so it requires two refugees paddling together to have enough strength to make it to the shore. The raft can carry at most two refugees at a time, and when they paddle together, they travel at the slower refugee's pace. The four refugees paddle at different speeds: one can reach the shore in 1 minute, another in 2 minutes, another in 5 minutes, and the slowest takes 10 minutes. What is the fastest time all the refugees can reach the shore?
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Does the muslim pop the raft shouting ALLAH
 
CallMeBigErn said:
Four refugees are stranded on an island and must reach the safety of a distant shore. They have only one raft, and the waters are too dangerous to swim across the channel without it. The current flows strongly toward the island, so it requires two refugees paddling together to have enough strength to make it to the shore. The raft can carry at most two refugees at a time, and when they paddle together, they travel at the slower refugee's pace. The four refugees paddle at different speeds: one can reach the shore in 1 minute, another in 2 minutes, another in 5 minutes, and the slowest takes 10 minutes. What is the fastest time all the refugees can reach the shore?
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None. They're all demonrat lefties and none of them actually work. Ever.
 
The question can be why do they hate us if you are prepared to answer because we aren't (now debatable) a failing Islamic society. The Middle East and Iran don't produce anything except oil (extracted by western technology and western engineers). The American's killed a fraction of Iraqis compared to how many of themselves the Sunnis and Shias killed. The Kurds are Muslims. Syria is Muslim and again we have killed a very small fraction of Syrians versus Muslims killing each other. They hate us because we are relatively degenerate Westerners compared to how the view a properly run Islamic society (wherever you can find this theoretical construct). The neocons (fronting for the MIC) continue to peddle the lie that we can build a functioning Islamic democracy in - pick any random Muslim shithole. They do appreciate a strong man (or strong horse as OBL put it). That strong man isn't a dementia patient, barry, PIPS, Blinken, Lindsey Graham or McConnell.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1866549180212375609
 
RaceBannon said:
Wait until you see the other side PGOS
Strongman secular dictators are the lesser of two evils compared to mullahs and jihadis
The Shah was better than Khomeini
Assad pissed off Hilary and it's been destabilizing since
There are no good guys. Let them kill each other
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The Tahrir Al-Sham faction is an Islamist terror group, just like ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and the Taliban. As Race accurately points out, the Taliban claimed for an nano to have become more moderate as they came back into power in Afghanistan, but then immediately reverted to their draconian enforcement of brutal fundamentalist Islamic laws. Tahrir Al-Sham will do that same. Cook it.
They're already starting to enforce hijab in areas under their control, and worse is on the way. Their location on Israel’s border is a nightmare. Al-Assad was only concerned with staying in power and had no interest in picking a fight after '73. The border with Syria has been quiet for years. Currently, Tahrir Al-Sham is focused on destroying the secular Kurds. If they succeed in that (and unless the US arms the Kurds they will), then next will be attempting to destroy Israel. But I look forward to them picking that fight.
If anyone has any remaining doubt that Israel is the real no-fucking-around-crew, I can't help. They don't fucking care about our fucking blessings anymore, they can fight without our money and they don't need our shitty friendship, which btw they have again for the next four years. I hope another hardliner follows Netanyahu and that he's (sorry @Doog_de_Jour) around long enough to be in power for said upcoming fight. Israeli hard liners are so fucking fed up with radical Islamic bullshit that they are no longer going to prosecute wars in line with public opinion. New Syria picks a fight, and it will, and it will end up like the West Bank. Just fucking take it over and breed them out. Fine by me. New Syrians should remember how Israel came to own the Golan.
Creep's esoteric view of the Middle East. More Israel = Good. Less Israel = Bad.
 
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The Tahrir Al-Sham faction is an Islamist terror group, just like ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and the Taliban. As Race accurately points out, the Taliban claimed for an nano to have become more moderate as they came back into power in Afghanistan, but then immediately reverted to their draconian enforcement of brutal fundamentalist Islamic laws. Tahrir Al-Sham will do that same. Cook it.
Did we pay for Tahrir Al-Sham just like the rest of them?
 
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