8-5 would be 4-5 in conference. fuck that.
I don't give a shit who we're starting at qb either. 10 wins overall should be the minimum expectation, especially with the experience we have on both lines
10-win "Minimum expectation"? Let me guess you are under 25 years old? You realize we are talking football not Romarball? Since when has a new coach had a 10-win "minimum expectation"? Maybe Saban at Bammer when he 1st took over? That'd be about it dumbster, and he would have even gotten a pass.
Can't believe these demanding, uneducated and clueless fans of the new college football "win now" generation. Watch a decade or so of college football, understand the game then come pop off about realistic expectation.
You know who the qb is (with numbers to back it up)? The running back (with #'s to back it up)? Who is going to pick up #8 8 ' s production, most important in the redzone? What happens if Shelton goes down? Peters? Who's going to play safety? Who's going to clean up all of Nez Johnny ' s missed tackles, Feeney's boneheaded plays, Shaq ' s overpursuits? Think about shit before you spew expectations