Sub K "the #1 mistake we are making in recruiting"

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Our AD is posting pictures of cherry blossoms on twitter while Ohio State is posting goofy videos where they ask the coaches if they know what fortnite is.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, your publicly-available podcast where you bash the former head coach, current head coach, AD, assistant coaches, former players, and current players for over an hour might actually be a bigger tool for negative recruitment than the cherry blossom picture posted by the AD.
 
That's the gap in the "Everything matters!", "Fan twitter works!" game plan. If that is true on the positive, it's true in the negative as well. Personally, I'm glad @Crow_T_Robot still went on rants because it's entertaining.
 
Wait, there’s a video of Jen-no show dem puppies doing that? I either got whooshed or I need a link.
 
I've criticized his takes before but his latest podcast is an absolute embarrassing train wreck. For the first 20 minutes it's all about how the coronavirus should bring us together as UW fans and we should all embrace positivity. He then mumbles through reading a 15 minute long unfunny joke about how DDY is gay and has sex with guys. Then bashes the entire program for an hour+ using about 20 strawman/ 20-20 hindsight/ false equivalency arguments

Why didnt Pete prepare 4 years ago for Emeka being too big for a west coast school?

Why didn't the UW athletic department exploit the family tragedies of McGary and Budda to impress 8th graders who got Oregon offers?

Why didnt UW force Skinny to talk to Keelle Ringo about how Georgia dumped him?

Why did UW hire a coach who went 2-14 at Simon Fraser? Oh wait. FUCK ALL YOU PEOPLE TALKING SHIT ABOUT THOMAS FORD'S COACHING RECORD. YOU DONT GET IT. HE IS A GREAT MAN AND THERE IS MORE TO FOOTBALL THAN WINNING GAMES.

I'm not joking about any of this. This shit is truly embarrassing (moreso than the Christmas tree video).
 
Recruits aren’t listening to long podcasts. It doesn’t hurt at all because nobody that matters hears it.
 
I've criticized his takes before but his latest podcast is an absolute embarrassing train wreck. For the first 20 minutes it's all about how the coronavirus should bring us together as UW fans and we should all embrace positivity. He then mumbles through reading a 15 minute long unfunny joke about how DDY is gay and has sex with guys. Then bashes the entire program for an hour+ using about 20 strawman/ 20-20 hindsight/ false equivalency arguments

Why didnt Pete prepare 4 years ago for Emeka being too big for a west coast school?

Why didn't the UW athletic department exploit the family tragedies of McGary and Budda to impress 8th graders who got Oregon offers?

Why didnt UW force Skinny to talk to Keelle Ringo about how Georgia dumped him?

Why did UW hire a coach who went 2-14 at Simon Fraser? Oh wait. FUCK ALL YOU PEOPLE TALKING SHIT ABOUT THOMAS FORD'S COACHING RECORD. YOU DONT GET IT. HE IS A GREAT MAN AND THERE IS MORE TO FOOTBALL THAN WINNING GAMES.

I'm not joking about any of this. This shit is truly embarrassing (moreso than the Christmas tree video).
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The sycophantic nature of all the BDTW guys is pathetic. They are just as bad as Kim. Sub K gets a retweet from Ford so he will like him for life.
 
Wait, there’s a video of Jen-no show dem puppies doing that? I either got whooshed or I need a link.
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Reading comprehension is hard...

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Sub K is not wrong regarding the our AD's ineptitude with social media. Yeah, some of his schtick is over the top but his message is spot on. Like it or not, the generation of kids who we are recruiting live their lives on social media. To not be excelling in that space is at worst a terrible mistake and, at best, a missed opportunity.

 
Recruits aren’t listening to long podcasts. It doesn’t hurt at all because nobody that matters hears it.
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They can be fed parts of it, though, as a "look, UWs own fans talk about how shitty their program is run".

Moreso, I was making the point of the extremely tonedeaf failure to sense the irony in all this. His overarching "thesis" of all his ramblings are that UW is the greatest college football program for all recruits. That UW should be winning national championships and top level recruits should automatically pick because it has everything in academics and athletics a kid could want. Now, setting aside that that claim is inherently false (and no, it's not doogish to say that, its reality), he then spends the majority of his podcasts (especially this one) pouring over how shitty the coaches are, how shitty the athletic department is, and how everyone is underachieving.

Here's this great product, it's amazing. Go tell everyone how great it is so more people buy it. Alright, now I'm going to tell you a bunch of reasons why this product sucks. In conclusion, why aren't more people buying this product?
 
I've criticized his takes before but his latest podcast is an absolute embarrassing train wreck. For the first 20 minutes it's all about how the coronavirus should bring us together as UW fans and we should all embrace positivity. He then mumbles through reading a 15 minute long unfunny joke about how DDY is gay and has sex with guys. Then bashes the entire program for an hour+ using about 20 strawman/ 20-20 hindsight/ false equivalency arguments

Why didnt Pete prepare 4 years ago for Emeka being too big for a west coast school?

Why didn't the UW athletic department exploit the family tragedies of McGary and Budda to impress 8th graders who got Oregon offers?

Why didnt UW force Skinny to talk to Keelle Ringo about how Georgia dumped him?

Why did UW hire a coach who went 2-14 at Simon Fraser? Oh wait. FUCK ALL YOU PEOPLE TALKING SHIT ABOUT THOMAS FORD'S COACHING RECORD. YOU DONT GET IT. HE IS A GREAT MAN AND THERE IS MORE TO FOOTBALL THAN WINNING GAMES.

I'm not joking about any of this. This shit is truly embarrassing (moreso than the Christmas tree video).
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Shame on Pete for adding Puka, McMillan, Odunze, getting a commitment from one of the top QB's in the country (Emeka's 7 v 7 teammate) and putting the full court press on Troy Franklin before LEAVING

Also, Pete should have required that Skinny have told Kelee we play seniors over better underclassman.
 
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Sub K is not wrong regarding the our AD's ineptitude with social media. Yeah, some of his schtick is over the top but his message is spot on. Like it or not, the generation of kids who we are recruiting live their lives on social media. To not be excelling in that space is at worst a terrible mistake and, at best, a missed opportunity.
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An argument can be made that our program can better its online presence selling the program. I agree with that

No logical argument can be made to back up the over the top shit he is spewing out there.
 
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What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
 
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What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
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This. We have a tough time beating out schools that win bigger and more consistently than we do. Like Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, etc. That’s really it.

We beat Oregon out for a lot of our recruits. You can argue they are recruiting better, but they don’t have a vastly more talented team.
 
What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
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Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.
 
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What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
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Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.
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That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.
 
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Our AD is posting pictures of cherry blossoms on twitter while Ohio State is posting goofy videos where they ask the coaches if they know what fortnite is.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, your publicly-available podcast where you bash the former head coach, current head coach, AD, assistant coaches, former players, and current players for over an hour might actually be a bigger tool for negative recruitment than the cherry blossom picture posted by the AD.
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I too listened to that 2 hours of garbage that made my ears bleed.

He talks about how UW doesn't make any sales content like the big boys, but tOSU is 10 days into a bottle flipping contest and UGA is posting situp training videos from their strength coach. His rant about Budda's brother being killed on the mean streets of South Seattle left out the fact that the shooting happened in Ballard (RIP Robert Baker, no disrespect intended).

I get that SubK knows a few things as a former player, but Chest, DDY and the other BDTW guys have lost me by sucking up to him so much.
 
What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
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Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.
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That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.
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This wasn't a down year.

Favored by the metrics in every game but one, Oregon at home where we blow a two touchdown lead.

Pete decides before the apple cup (probably realizes his offense is such shit he could actually lose to Leach at home) that he's done at Washington, comes out and admits that he's been burned out since before the apple cup.

You act like we're so lucky to have him. He had a formula that could win 10 games with decent experience and yet he still lost to a lot of shit coaches: Graham, Helton (I don't believe for a second UW should have lost that game in 2016), Mora, Guy who just dipped out of Colorado, etc.

Still not over him starting at 8-6 and quitting after 8-5. Beat Oregon just twice. My God. You could argue that he failed at Washington.
 
What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
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Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.
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That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.
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This wasn't a down year.

Favored by the metrics in every game but one, Oregon at home where we blow a two touchdown lead.

Pete decides before the apple cup (probably realizes his offense is such shit he could actually lose to Leach at home) that he's done at Washington, comes out and admits that he's been burned out since before the apple cup.

You act like we're so lucky to have him. He had a formula that could win 10 games with decent experience and yet he still lost to a lot of shit coaches: Graham, Helton (I don't believe for a second UW should have lost that game in 2016), Mora, Guy who just dipped out of Colorado, etc.

Still not over him starting at 8-6 and quitting after 8-5. Beat Oregon just twice. My God. You could argue that he failed at Washington.
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I do feel like we were lucky to have as a head coach because it’s very hard to find a successful head coach in college especially when you compare the resources we have to other schools. As far as the fail thing, I don’t know how anyone could argue the Pete failed at Washington.

 
What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
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Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.
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That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.
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This wasn't a down year.

Favored by the metrics in every game but one, Oregon at home where we blow a two touchdown lead.

Pete decides before the apple cup (probably realizes his offense is such shit he could actually lose to Leach at home) that he's done at Washington, comes out and admits that he's been burned out since before the apple cup.

You act like we're so lucky to have him. He had a formula that could win 10 games with decent experience and yet he still lost to a lot of shit coaches: Graham, Helton (I don't believe for a second UW should have lost that game in 2016), Mora, Guy who just dipped out of Colorado, etc.

Still not over him starting at 8-6 and quitting after 8-5. Beat Oregon just twice. My God. You could argue that he failed at Washington.
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I do feel like we were lucky to have as a head coach because it’s very hard to find a successful head coach in college especially when you compare the resources we have to other schools. As far as the fail thing, I don’t know how anyone could argue the Pete failed at Washington.
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What schools are you comparing us to?

Cal who doesn't give a shit? Beavlet and cuog who are poor, and will always be poor? Stanford who really doesn't give a fuck, UCLA who doesn't give a fuck?

Arizona who's poor and only cares about basketball? Utah that is mountain west shit?

Arizona State, Colorado? Meh. Inherent problems for both.

We're competing with SC who's a mess and Oregon, which is a backwater shit school and location. Oregon just so happens to really care, but that's about it.

Who should we be lucky to be better than with Pete?

3/6 seasons were mediocre. 2-4 against Oregon. 2-4 against Stanford. No major bowl wins. That's a pretty bad tenure all things considered.
 
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