This post reaks of doooog. I’m an impatient American and I want it now!!
Stephon Wright, 2019 4* DE, Cathedral HS, Los Angeles, CA (offered)
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This post reaks of doooog. I’m an impatient American and I want it now!!
Dennis_DeYoung
New Fish
God you guys are dumb.
Jaylen is playing SAM because we have nothing else reliable.
We don’t have a “Jaylen SAM” position.
We recruit two body types: 1 gap guys and 2 gap guys. We also rotate 6 DL.
We finally realized that we fucked everything up.
Tuitele is a 2 gap, so is Bandes and Pa’ama, Ika would be as well. Ngalu is obviously a 1.
I would love Wright, but not instead of Ika.
Ika is a beast. But I would be fucking pumped to get Wright.
Jaylen is playing SAM because we have nothing else reliable.
We don’t have a “Jaylen SAM” position.
We recruit two body types: 1 gap guys and 2 gap guys. We also rotate 6 DL.
We finally realized that we fucked everything up.
Tuitele is a 2 gap, so is Bandes and Pa’ama, Ika would be as well. Ngalu is obviously a 1.
I would love Wright, but not instead of Ika.
Ika is a beast. But I would be fucking pumped to get Wright.
LaMichael_Corleone
New Fish
If you guys don’t think Ika is important and say “this is already a good DT class, lets worry about someone else”..... Let me remind you how big of a loss Shane bowman was and how many meaningful snaps John Clark has played this year. Shane fuccin bowman. We were sad about losing Shane bowman. I have to keep repeating it to try to believe that’s true. No we didn’t lose Jojo Mathis or azeem victor, we lost Ryan Bowman’s older brother who has less playing time than Ryan bowman. “How to replace Shane bowman after injury?” was a question I never thought I was going to have to ask myself along with “are you ever gonna get a real job?”. If in 2 years we’re sad about losing a Shane bowman equivalent, I know all of you guys want to anyways, but you can save the bullets and not shoot me because I will be finding more painful ways to kill myself.
Ballz
New Fish
Paama > Ika. Bandes > Ika. Tuitele > Ika. Wright > Ika
I don't get the fan fare for Ika over dudes with more quickness and athleticism. Ika is not special. Paama is. Ika will be a one dimensional run stuffer. He reminds me of Stevie Tu'ikolovatu who coincidentally went to the same high school. He's good but he's not that good.
If you want to maybe have a chance at sacking the QB in the future, Wright is your guy, not Ika.
I don't get the fan fare for Ika over dudes with more quickness and athleticism. Ika is not special. Paama is. Ika will be a one dimensional run stuffer. He reminds me of Stevie Tu'ikolovatu who coincidentally went to the same high school. He's good but he's not that good.
If you want to maybe have a chance at sacking the QB in the future, Wright is your guy, not Ika.
Neighbor2972
Active poster
Qualls played Sam, Vita played Sam, String plays sam... When teams come out in heavy personnel we play 3 d-tackle bodies, in a 335 or a 245. Teams finally realized they can't pass against us and are just running with 2-3 tight ends, we play a DT at sam to counter.
Is Jaylen the best person to play that role? No of course not. If we had good outside linebackers would Jaylen be playing this much sam? No of course not. But clearly we like having the option to go heavy in the 245, both things can be true.
We’re not getting Ika... how’s the finding a real job thing going? I for one feel that selling lines of blow off of migit prostitutes is an honorable job so keep up the good work!
LaMichael_Corleone
New Fish
“He’s a one dimensional run stuffer” you do know the number 1 priority of a defense is right?
So how many of those “run stuffers” did we have in the Oregon game?
I know your answer is going to be “Greg and Levi do a fine job of that” how well do they stop the run when they have to play the whole game cuz every time we sub them out John Clark comes in the game so we’re discouraged to sub so by mid 3rd quarter our starters are downgraded to average rotational players skillset wise cuz our inability to trust our backups have fatigued our starters to the point where they’re nowhere near their ceiling which is where we need them the highest percentage of snaps, rather than say receivers who play a large volume of plays and hope that the shear volume of sample size allows them to make 3 big plays, we need DL to be at their max ceilings every snap they play so we need to rotate 6 DTs, especially in big games.
Why do I have to choose one guy over the other? You know that DL rotates the most out of any position group in the field other than WR’s who sub more on formation than fatigue.
You do know that injuries exist at a higher frequency the closer you play to the LOS? So what happens if Paama and bandes gets hurt and tuitele has to eat double teams and can’t get 1v1s cuz we have to put mosiah in or ngalu in? No one is saying they’d choose ika over wright we’d obviously like them both (besides the coaches who probably know which player the we need more based on their depth chart projections), what I’m saying is you can never have enough massive people and you can never have enough high rated DL/OL. And you know that wright would most likely add Size to his already 265 pound frame and you think he’s going to be a Von Miller tackstar on the outside WHERE OUR COACHES DONT WANT GUYS BEING A VON MILLER TRACKSTAR ESPECIALLY AT 285 POUNDS.
Lastly my favorite part.
“If we actually want to have chances at sacking the quarterback” you have to put the offense in 3rd & 7 or longer because in today’s game the name of it is to get the ball out as fast as possible and IF WE CANT STOP THE RUN ON FIRST AND SECOND DOWN LIKE STANFORD LAST YEAR AND OREGON THIS YEAR AND TEAMS HAVE 3rd & 4 OR SHORTER ALL GAME HOW THE FUCK ARE WE GOING TO GET A SACK WHEN THE QUARTERBACK IS IN SHOTGUN TAKING A TWO STEP DROP? LAWRENCE TAYLOR ISNT GETTING SACKS AGAINST A SHOTGUN TWO STEP ONE READ THROW HOW THE FUCK IS STEPHON WRIGHT GOING TO DO THAT IN A SCHEME THAT DOESNT ALLOW HIM TO? stephon would probably play JJ DT and you know how those guys primarily get their sacks? Cuz the guy next to him (Vita Vea, Elijah qualls, Greg Gaines) is so big that they have to roll protection to his side with a center and guard and the 5 or 3 technique gets a 1v1 against a less athletic guard cuz the better one is occupied doubling in order to prevent inside, in the quarterbacks grill pressure which is more feared by offenses than outside pass rush. Outside pass rushers can be rolled away from, rolled towards, doubled with a TE or RB, chipped with an RB or TE, or even ran by while the quarterback calmly steps up (if there’s no inside pressure). Inside bull rushing pressure that puts the center in the quarterbacks lap is actually more conducive to getting sacks especially with our collapsing pocket scheme cuz it’s the first thing a quarterback sees and feels which speeds up his clock and makes him want to flee the pocket early leading them into, you fucking guessed it (some of you won’t cuz you wore a helmet on the bus to school every day)... outside pass rushers.
If Ika isn’t special.... why is tosh lupoi recruiting him as a primary and they don’t have any other DTs signed and only 1 crystal balled to go there?
Dennis_DeYoung
New Fish
THIS IS MY FUCKING POINT.
did we recruit Qualls for SAM, Vita for SAM, Jaylen for SAM?
No. But they can play there if we need to go heavy.
We done here?
Ballz
New Fish
Jesus this is dumb.
UW will never have another Shane Bowman to walk on John Clark type of situation on the D-line ever again under Petersen.
Tuli Letuligasenoa, Sam Taimani, Jacob Bandes, Sama Paama. We are fucking golden at Nose Tackle for years to come. We need some fucking SPEED on the D-line.
Holy fuck you are fucking stupid. Tuli Letuligasenoa, Sam Taimani, Jacob Bandes, Sama Paama. We are about be fucking loaded with run stuffing NT's you fucking idiot! Stopping the run won't be a fucking problem. Rushing the QB will be if all we have as interior pass rushers are a bunch of slow Nose Tackles! Did you enjoy watching the fucking Penn State game? That's what it looks like when your best defensive lineman are huge Nose Tackle body types who get gassed and can't get consistent pressure up the middle and even when they do can easily be avoided by any QB with decent athleticism. We need some fucking speed and some black defensive lineman motherfucker! You want to talk about Bama? They're loaded with big, fast twich, black defensive lineman every fucking year. So is Clemson. Those seem to be the teams winning the national title lately. Stephon Wright is needed more and is a bigger priority for UW than Siaki Ika. I don't even think UW is recruiting Ika anymore so shut the fuck up.
Thebourbinator
New Fish
Landing Wright would make a statement that Malloe isn’t just relying on his poly pipeline, and that he can go into LA and take who he wants. For that reason alone I think he’s a more important recruit than Ika. With that said, por que no los dos?
LaMichael_Corleone
New Fish
Dood... Stephon Wright isn’t going to play OLB. If you want to say we need outside pass rushers I completely agree but at the OLB position. You keep saying we need speed and black people at DT, but we had exactly that in Jaylen and had to move him to OLB cuz our recruiting was so bad there and ILB we had to move Tevis Bartlett and replace him with Jaylen. So even if we did get speed and darkness at the position we’d have to move them to a position where their skillset doesn’t matchup therefore them not reaching their ceiling and Jaylen never played as much as he should’ve at DT in his career cuz why? The coaches saw him as too undersized. you keep contradicting yourself by saying NT get gassed out but then say how loaded we are. That’s the exact point I’m trying to make. We need as many as we can get. You can’t coach Size so you have to accumulate as many as possible so you don’t have a drop off between the first group and the third and even fourth group (right now our first group is Greg and levi followed by John Clark and Josiah Mr. we’re so loaded). As much as I hope everyone succeeds, you know that injuries, transfers, or simply not cutting it happens in every class just go back and look at every class and tell me if every player we’ve gotten has lived up to expectations. The problem with not having depth at the position is exactly what you’re talking about and kind of proving my point with the Penn State game. Vita and Greg had to play the whole game cuz Levi wasn’t ready now vita leaves insert Levi and you have the same problem but worse. Having Ryan Bowman and benning potoae being your outside pass rushers is where you need “speed and fast twitch” or as you say “black people”. You ever hear or Ariel ngata or joe tryon or savell smalls or Peter latu? If you have heard of them you prolly know that they are a lot faster and more flexible than benning and Ryan but they aren’t ready yet. And I don’t think you’ve seen paamas film if you think he’s a one dimensional gap filler that’s what everyone on this board is so high on him cuz he’s the Size of ika but he moves like tuitele (who is quite the pass rusher as well). I love how you named 4 people and said we’re going to be loaded when I just said you have to rotate 6. Ngalu isn’t a one dimensional run stopper at all. I think you’re confusing positions and what you need out of them cuz you’re so focused on calling me dumb that you quoted it, typed something out, quoted again, typed out almost the exact same sentence as if I’m as illiterate as you are. We need 6 rotational NT (Tuli, taimani, bandes, one more for my liking), we also need 4 five technique DT/DE (tuitele, ngalu, Stephon Wright, paama) and then 4-6 OLB who are fast enough to get after the pass rusher (ngata, tryon, ZTF, sav’ell, and a shit load of other people where you should be directing your anger towards due to the fact we were so thin there we had to move Jaylen there instead of being your faster, blacker pass rushing DT) if you follow along and learn how to read and also go back in time and play college football in a very similar to scheme as to what Petersen runs maybe you’ll understand that
A. We want the same thing (hopefully you want udub to be a 20 year dynasty where instead of being afraid to sub in a John Clark we’re so deep that we’re afraid to sub in a 4 Star guy cuz that’s how it is at Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, LSU, etc.)
B. You’re anger towards me should be directed at Coach K and Bob Gregory cuz it’s not my fault we can’t recruit edge pass rushers so much so that all you Doogs are celebrating Bralen trice’s commitment when honestly, where I hope the program is goin, he is a 4th string situational guy who becomes our afraid to put in guy cuz we hopefully were that “loaded”
C. You’re first point is very short sighted saying “well never have John Clark or Shane Bowman or Josiah Bronson like players playing for Pete ever again” so..... what about like.... next year? You think all these freshman are gonna play let alone not redshirt? You think Tuli and taimani are going to reach near their ceiling as redshirt freshman? You think Pete trusts them to play them the whole game or do you think he will rotate Bronson, Clark in and start Ryan Bowman and benning again? Even if we signed Thibodeaux AND Bru McCoy to play defense, Pete would still play Ryan Bowman and benning most of the snaps
A. We want the same thing (hopefully you want udub to be a 20 year dynasty where instead of being afraid to sub in a John Clark we’re so deep that we’re afraid to sub in a 4 Star guy cuz that’s how it is at Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, LSU, etc.)
B. You’re anger towards me should be directed at Coach K and Bob Gregory cuz it’s not my fault we can’t recruit edge pass rushers so much so that all you Doogs are celebrating Bralen trice’s commitment when honestly, where I hope the program is goin, he is a 4th string situational guy who becomes our afraid to put in guy cuz we hopefully were that “loaded”
C. You’re first point is very short sighted saying “well never have John Clark or Shane Bowman or Josiah Bronson like players playing for Pete ever again” so..... what about like.... next year? You think all these freshman are gonna play let alone not redshirt? You think Tuli and taimani are going to reach near their ceiling as redshirt freshman? You think Pete trusts them to play them the whole game or do you think he will rotate Bronson, Clark in and start Ryan Bowman and benning again? Even if we signed Thibodeaux AND Bru McCoy to play defense, Pete would still play Ryan Bowman and benning most of the snaps
HillsboroDuck
New Fish
I like you better on twitter where the character limits makes it feel like you're using paragraphs.
Break your shit up next time.
I still love you.
LaMichael_Corleone
New Fish
I 100% agree up to the point where you say “more important”. They’re both equally important. Just like the last sentence every single real husky fan wants both. Nowhere am I saying I want ika over wright. WE NEED AS MANY GOOD DL AND OL AS WE CAN POSSIBLY SIGN. I would like ika to let us know if he’s not interested so we can go after wright. Where I get frustrated is when people say “we have enough DL” cuz you can have Clemson’s DL and ad Ed Oliver and they would still need/want nick bosa.
LaMichael_Corleone
New Fish
Adderall is a hell of a drug you should try it.