Sounds like Obama gave Putin..

Mike-

Poland is a NATO member in good standing. Putin rolling into Poland would be the same as Putin rolling into London, Berlin, Paris, or Yelm.
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No, it wouldn't. We won't do shit. We might send over Biden to achieve peace in our time. No fucking way does the US invest lives and trillions into that. No fucking way. We won't even do anything meaningful economically. It would need to come down to the US being attacked. Simple fact.
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You are fundamentally wrong on this one. It's like arguing with a brick wall, or D2D.

Just because the US won't instill a draft and send in tons of foot soldiers, doesn't mean we won't send our AF and Navy to assist Europe and throw back Russia. The marines and special forces will get deployed as well.

The citizens opinions don't fucking matter on this issue Damone. HTH
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You're backing off quite a bit. You went from we would go to war and invade to now "assist".
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That was in response to a post dealing with the potential scenario of Russia nuking Europe.

Context, toilet man, context.
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Pressing.
 
Article 5 of the NATO treaty:

Article 5 of the Washington Treaty:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.
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The US is full of native Poles and Europeans, not native Iraqis and Afganis.

If Europe is going to get invaded by Russia, they US populace will recognize the need to defend it you fucking dumbass
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Your dumbest post yet, cunt drip.
 
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Mike-

Poland is a NATO member in good standing. Putin rolling into Poland would be the same as Putin rolling into London, Berlin, Paris, or Yelm.
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No, it wouldn't. We won't do shit. We might send over Biden to achieve peace in our time. No fucking way does the US invest lives and trillions into that. No fucking way. We won't even do anything meaningful economically. It would need to come down to the US being attacked. Simple fact.
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You are fundamentally wrong on this one. It's like arguing with a brick wall, or D2D.

Just because the US won't instill a draft and send in tons of foot soldiers, doesn't mean we won't send our AF and Navy to assist Europe and throw back Russia. The marines and special forces will get deployed as well.

The citizens opinions don't fucking matter on this issue Damone. HTH
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The citizens don't matter? The war we are in and the fact Obama is the President suggests otherwise. If we went to war over this, it's political suicide for who ever is in charge. Simple fact.
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If Russia invaded Europe, and we went to war based off a treaty we are bound to obligate, it is political suicide?

I used to think you were somewhat intelligent. Now, not so much
 
Article 5 of the NATO treaty:

Article 5 of the Washington Treaty:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.
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And what is the remedy if we decide it's not in our best interest to do that..... Oh, yeah, nothing.
 
Article 5 of the NATO treaty:

Article 5 of the Washington Treaty:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.
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And what is the remedy if we decide it's not in our best interest to do that..... Oh, yeah, nothing.
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Yeah, what a great idea that is Damone. Forfeit our status as world superpower and let Russia rape Europe, great fucking idea man.

Run for office.
 
Mike-

Poland is a NATO member in good standing. Putin rolling into Poland would be the same as Putin rolling into London, Berlin, Paris, or Yelm.
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No, it wouldn't. We won't do shit. We might send over Biden to achieve peace in our time. No fucking way does the US invest lives and trillions into that. No fucking way. We won't even do anything meaningful economically. It would need to come down to the US being attacked. Simple fact.
Click to expand...

You are fundamentally wrong on this one. It's like arguing with a brick wall, or D2D.

Just because the US won't instill a draft and send in tons of foot soldiers, doesn't mean we won't send our AF and Navy to assist Europe and throw back Russia. The marines and special forces will get deployed as well.

The citizens opinions don't fucking matter on this issue Damone. HTH
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The citizens don't matter? The war we are in and the fact Obama is the President suggests otherwise. If we went to war over this, it's political suicide for who ever is in charge. Simple fact.
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If Russia invaded Europe, and we went to war based off a treaty we are bound to obligate, it is political suicide?

I used to think you were somewhat intelligent. Now, not so much
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It all comes back to the fucking CONTARCT?

Bottom line is it will be a political and economic decision to either take action or not. If it is not in our national interest to invade, we will not invade. We will not commit lives and money because of a decades old agreement that can't be enforced. We are war weary and won't be invading anyone anytime soon
 
Mike-

Poland is a NATO member in good standing. Putin rolling into Poland would be the same as Putin rolling into London, Berlin, Paris, or Yelm.
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No, it wouldn't. We won't do shit. We might send over Biden to achieve peace in our time. No fucking way does the US invest lives and trillions into that. No fucking way. We won't even do anything meaningful economically. It would need to come down to the US being attacked. Simple fact.
Click to expand...

You are fundamentally wrong on this one. It's like arguing with a brick wall, or D2D.

Just because the US won't instill a draft and send in tons of foot soldiers, doesn't mean we won't send our AF and Navy to assist Europe and throw back Russia. The marines and special forces will get deployed as well.

The citizens opinions don't fucking matter on this issue Damone. HTH
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The citizens don't matter? The war we are in and the fact Obama is the President suggests otherwise. If we went to war over this, it's political suicide for who ever is in charge. Simple fact.
Click to expand...

If Russia invaded Europe, and we went to war based off a treaty we are bound to obligate, it is political suicide?

I used to think you were somewhat intelligent. Now, not so much
Click to expand...

It all comes back to the fucking CONTARCT?

Bottom line is it will be a political and economic decision to either take action or not. If it is not in our national interest to invade, we will not invade. We will not commit lives and money because of a decades old agreement that can't be enforced. We are war weary and won't be invading anyone anytime soon
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no fucking shit. we will however prevent an invasion of our allies, and invade russia if they use nukes.

its simple, stop being dense
 
The US is full of native Poles and Europeans, not native Iraqis and Afganis.

If Europe is going to get invaded by Russia, they US populace will recognize the need to defend it you fucking dumbass
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Your dumbest post yet, cunt drip.
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Great refute to my point as always, dumb fuck
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It's on par with your dumb fucking comments.
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Wrong, you're just not very good at this.

It's okay. Keep pressing.
 
Article 5 of the NATO treaty:

Article 5 of the Washington Treaty:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.
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And what is the remedy if we decide it's not in our best interest to do that..... Oh, yeah, nothing.
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Yeah, what a great idea that is Damone. Forfeit our status as world superpower and let Russia rape Europe, great fucking idea man.

Run for office.
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If that were the real threat, then it would be in our economic and national interest to do something, right? Can you fucking read? Russia taking Latvia will result in a very stern talking to.
 
Article 5 of the NATO treaty:

Article 5 of the Washington Treaty:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.
Click to expand...
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And what is the remedy if we decide it's not in our best interest to do that..... Oh, yeah, nothing.
Click to expand...

Yeah, what a great idea that is Damone. Forfeit our status as world superpower and let Russia rape Europe, great fucking idea man.

Run for office.
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If that were the real threat, then it would be in our economic and national interest to do something, right? Can you fucking read? Russia taking Latvia will result in a very stern talking to.
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Disagree. The US knew what it was getting into by admitting Latvia in. They need allies surrounding Russia....you think the US worked so hard to gain influence in Eastern Europe only to see Russia grab it back with some tanks like its 1939?

Think again.
 
This sums it up nicely.

economist.com/news/united-states/21601538-america-no-longer-alarming-its-foes-or-reassuring-its-friends-decline
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That article basically said America is no longer being as aggressive as it has been in the past with rhetoric, but is still stationing up troops in the Middle East and Asia to deter Iran and China.

Meanwhile, other countries are investing in military at a slightly higher rate than the US currently is, but the US still has an enormous lead...

Nothing revolutionary there....
 
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