Sounders FC Update

[Global]

Roth, Hannauer and others swear that money won't be a factor in terms of pursuing the MLS Cup, whatever that ends up meaning. As much as guys like Rosales have helped, this philosophy of young Central-American players doesn't get the job done for me.

Agree about the young Central American players. They are fairly talented usually, and cheaper than their European counterparts or even most South American counterparts. If they have been in Central America, it is typically the minor leagues of the Hispanic futbol world. Getting a transfer to a better paying S. American club or to the US, is a good step for them, or even better for them, to a decent European club.

But if money truly was not a factor, the Sounders would not be buying from here, but from the better clubs of S America or Europe. They get bargains and diamonds in the rough with their strategy, but it is financially driven.

But the old NASL went bankrupt by diving too heavily into expensive European talent pools. As a young guy, I worked for a while with the old NASL Sounders. As you doubtless know, the Cosmos were the LA Galaxy of that era, with expensive guys like Pele, Beckenbauer, Chinaglia, Alberto, etc.
That is clearly not a good economic model without much better stadium attendance and BIG TV contracts.

So I wonder how the Galaxy do what they do? The economics of their team is something Seattle needs to understand. Can it be emulated?

 

[tdawg]

God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

What part of Mello's Bistro do you not understand?

 

[DerekJohnson]

God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

What part of Mello's Bistro do you not understand?

Speaking of which, TierbsHsotBoobs... What are you doing in here?

 

[MelloDawg]

God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

Welcome and thanks for reading. I'm in discussions with management to get a podcast on this site pertaining to the beautiful game. Your thoughts?

 

[MelloDawg]

Roth, Hannauer and others swear that money won't be a factor in terms of pursuing the MLS Cup, whatever that ends up meaning. As much as guys like Rosales have helped, this philosophy of young Central-American players doesn't get the job done for me.

Agree about the young Central American players. They are fairly talented usually, and cheaper than their European counterparts or even most South American counterparts. If they have been in Central America, it is typically the minor leagues of the Hispanic futbol world. Getting a transfer to a better paying S. American club or to the US, is a good step for them, or even better for them, to a decent European club.

But if money truly was not a factor, the Sounders would not be buying from here, but from the better clubs of S America or Europe. They get bargains and diamonds in the rough with their strategy, but it is financially driven.

But the old NASL went bankrupt by diving too heavily into expensive European talent pools. As a young guy, I worked for a while with the old NASL Sounders. As you doubtless know, the Cosmos were the LA Galaxy of that era, with expensive guys like Pele, Beckenbauer, Chinaglia, Alberto, etc.
That is clearly not a good economic model without much better stadium attendance and BIG TV contracts.

So I wonder how the Galaxy do what they do? The economics of their team is something Seattle needs to understand. Can it be emulated?

And while I don't know a great deal about the NASL model, I do know there are a better series of economic checks and balances with the MLS to avoid such a collapse. I do think the Soudners have the roster to get it done in 2013, but the problem of finding an appropriate pairing with Montero still remains. Management loves the guy because of his high ceiling, but he's so streaky.

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

What part of Mello's Bistro do you not understand?

Speaking of which, TierbsHsotBoobs... What are you doing in here?

Haters gonna hate.

 

[Global]

And while I don't know a great deal about the NASL model, I do know there are a better series of economic checks and balances with the MLS to avoid such a collapse. I do think the Soudners have the roster to get it done in 2013, but the problem of finding an appropriate pairing with Montero still remains. Management loves the guy because of his high ceiling, but he's so streaky.

Yes, with Montero, either we need to find a dependable counterpart to him, or trade him. But games also are won typically in midfield, and we need quality throughout. As you noted at the start, we lose a key defender, and need to shore up things there.

But with LA able to field Robbie Keane and Landon Donovan at forward, and Beckham providing service, or the equivalent after Beckham is gone, Seattle has to find quality to match.

LA gets $4-5million a year in sponsorship from Herbalife. Seattle needs to find the right kind of financial mix to keep up. The Sounders have been profitable, and need to step up the quality.

 

[Birdflu]

The MLS should stop signing aging player from Europe and focus on more younger player from Europe or America. Soccer is a better game when play by players between the age of 18-28.

 

[MelloDawg]

And while I don't know a great deal about the NASL model, I do know there are a better series of economic checks and balances with the MLS to avoid such a collapse. I do think the Soudners have the roster to get it done in 2013, but the problem of finding an appropriate pairing with Montero still remains. Management loves the guy because of his high ceiling, but he's so streaky.

Yes, with Montero, either we need to find a dependable counterpart to him, or trade him. But games also are won typically in midfield, and we need quality throughout. As you noted at the start, we lose a key defender, and need to shore up things there.

But with LA able to field Robbie Keane and Landon Donovan at forward, and Beckham providing service, or the equivalent after Beckham is gone, Seattle has to find quality to match.

LA gets $4-5million a year in sponsorship from Herbalife. Seattle needs to find the right kind of financial mix to keep up. The Sounders have been profitable, and need to step up the quality.

But isn't there still a cap under which to operate, or does sponshorship money also count as extra allocation funds? The XboX partnership expires after 2013 and there's little chance it's renewed. The sense is that Sounders FC has an international presence these days and is known enough to garner interest from larger brands.

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

The MLS should stop signing aging player from Europe and focus on more younger player from Europe or America. Soccer is a better game when play by players doused in gasoline and set ablaze.

 

[Global]

But isn't there still a cap under which to operate, or does sponshorship money also count as extra allocation funds? The XboX partnership expires after 2013 and there's little chance it's renewed. The sense is that Sounders FC has an international presence these days and is known enough to garner interest from larger brands.

Yes, the Sounders are in a far better place to get sponsors now than when they were a start-up club. They are a good attendance draw now, and have performed well. I agree with you that they should be able to improve their position.

My understanding is that there are some MLS wide sponsorship allocations, and some freedom for the clubs to do their own. The MLS is still very collectivist in the sense that they want to be sure that the clubs in lucrative markets like LA, NY and Chicago can't just outspend those in less lucrative markets. I have not looked into it in detail though. But my understanding is the same as yours that there is a cap, and some limited freedom on top of that.

 

[Dick_B]

While I can take credit for the idea, I give all credit to DJ for the creation of this board.

Sounders set to sign Honduran midfielder Wilmer Crisanto in January, btw. Great acquisition...or greatest acquisition?

While I can take credit for the idea, I give all credit to DJ for the creation of this board.

Sounders set to sign Honduran midfielder Wilmer Crisanto in January, btw. Great acquisition...or greatest acquisition?

Really? How quickly they forget...........

 

[BennyBeaver]

It's a must win for the Sounders this weekend.

 

[PurpleJ]

FieldTurf cancer thread.

 

[phineas]

The MLS should stop signing aging player from Europe and focus on more younger player from Europe or America. Soccer is a better game when play by players between the age of 18-28.

Anyway we can get birdflu back? We need a real xs and os poster

 

[BennyBeaver]

And while I don't know a great deal about the NASL model, I do know there are a better series of economic checks and balances with the MLS to avoid such a collapse. I do think the Soudners have the roster to get it done in 2013, but the problem of finding an appropriate pairing with Montero still remains. Management loves the guy because of his high ceiling, but he's so streaky.

Yes, with Montero, either we need to find a dependable counterpart to him, or trade him. But games also are won typically in midfield, and we need quality throughout. As you noted at the start, we lose a key defender, and need to shore up things there.

But with LA able to field Robbie Keane and Landon Donovan at forward, and Beckham providing service, or the equivalent after Beckham is gone, Seattle has to find quality to match.

LA gets $4-5million a year in sponsorship from Herbalife. Seattle needs to find the right kind of financial mix to keep up. The Sounders have been profitable, and need to step up the quality.

But isn't there still a cap under which to operate, or does sponshorship money also count as extra allocation funds? The XboX partnership expires after 2013 and there's little chance it's renewed. The sense is that Sounders FC has an international presence these days and is known enough to garner interest from larger brands.

MellodoogFs

 

[MelloDawg]

And while I don't know a great deal about the NASL model, I do know there are a better series of economic checks and balances with the MLS to avoid such a collapse. I do think the Soudners have the roster to get it done in 2013, but the problem of finding an appropriate pairing with Montero still remains. Management loves the guy because of his high ceiling, but he's so streaky.

Yes, with Montero, either we need to find a dependable counterpart to him, or trade him. But games also are won typically in midfield, and we need quality throughout. As you noted at the start, we lose a key defender, and need to shore up things there.

But with LA able to field Robbie Keane and Landon Donovan at forward, and Beckham providing service, or the equivalent after Beckham is gone, Seattle has to find quality to match.

LA gets $4-5million a year in sponsorship from Herbalife. Seattle needs to find the right kind of financial mix to keep up. The Sounders have been profitable, and need to step up the quality.

But isn't there still a cap under which to operate, or does sponshorship money also count as extra allocation funds? The XboX partnership expires after 2013 and there's little chance it's renewed. The sense is that Sounders FC has an international presence these days and is known enough to garner interest from larger brands.

MellodoogFs

I just pass on what I'm hearing. Sometimes it's interesting but sometimes it's also interesting.

 

[haie]

God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

Welcome and thanks for reading. I'm in discussions with management to get a podcast on this site pertaining to the beautiful game. Your thoughts?

You have me contemplating if I even want to post here anymore.

 

[BennyBeaver]

That's 3 points!