Soul Train BOTBs Elite 8 (1980s to early 90s) - #1 Michael Jackson vs #2 Prince
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Dennis_DeYoung
New Fish
"You hated Michael and Prince all the way ever since, if their beats were made of meat, it would have to be mince!" - LL Cool J.
Dennis_DeYoung
New Fish
I'm not a MJ hater, but MJ had Off the Wall - which was a bunch of great disco jams with the help of Rod Temperton from Heatwave and our own QJ.
Rock with You was one of the most underrated jams until fucking Justin Timberlake copied it and then it blew again.
Okay, then he has Thriller. Thriller is obviously a really good record... so, no issues there.
Okay - what else?
Bad? Errrr... Smooth Criminal is a good song, The Way you Make me Feel is good, Leave me Alone is pretty fucking good, but Dirty Diana is fucking retarded. Bad is embarrassing. Largely by this point he'd reached self-parody with his 'chamon' and grunts and shit. You can't listen to one of these songs with out him grunting all over it... what the fuck?
The whole 'I'm actually tough' thing was ill-conceived to say the least.
This song is basically a little 60s Bubblegum pop number that is closer to Spanky and Our Gang or something than a number where you should be hanging out and pelvic thrusting with dancers dressed up to look like crips.
The song reminds me of this type of shit (which I love)...
Black or White? I mean - Jack and Diane sung by Michael Jackson with a really milquetoast message.
What else? Anything?
So, one great disco record - probably the best disco record ever (Saturday Night Fever soundtrack is obviously good too, but so many songs by so many different artists makes it complicated) and maybe the best pop record ever (or at least in the top tier)... but then an over the top, self-parody record with some decent moments whimpering into bland crap in the 90s like Jam...
I chronicled Prince's career earlier... he had a peak CLOSE to MJs, but way more innovation and a career peak that spanned 6-7 records, not 3, 1 of which was kind of embarrassing even at the time.
Rock with You was one of the most underrated jams until fucking Justin Timberlake copied it and then it blew again.
Okay, then he has Thriller. Thriller is obviously a really good record... so, no issues there.
Okay - what else?
Bad? Errrr... Smooth Criminal is a good song, The Way you Make me Feel is good, Leave me Alone is pretty fucking good, but Dirty Diana is fucking retarded. Bad is embarrassing. Largely by this point he'd reached self-parody with his 'chamon' and grunts and shit. You can't listen to one of these songs with out him grunting all over it... what the fuck?
The whole 'I'm actually tough' thing was ill-conceived to say the least.
This song is basically a little 60s Bubblegum pop number that is closer to Spanky and Our Gang or something than a number where you should be hanging out and pelvic thrusting with dancers dressed up to look like crips.
The song reminds me of this type of shit (which I love)...
Black or White? I mean - Jack and Diane sung by Michael Jackson with a really milquetoast message.
What else? Anything?
So, one great disco record - probably the best disco record ever (Saturday Night Fever soundtrack is obviously good too, but so many songs by so many different artists makes it complicated) and maybe the best pop record ever (or at least in the top tier)... but then an over the top, self-parody record with some decent moments whimpering into bland crap in the 90s like Jam...
I chronicled Prince's career earlier... he had a peak CLOSE to MJs, but way more innovation and a career peak that spanned 6-7 records, not 3, 1 of which was kind of embarrassing even at the time.
HillsboroDuck
New Fish
Really tough call here. On one hand, everything DDY said is true. The self parody is a major plot point about Michael.
OTOH everything DDY said is true. MJ owns the GOAT album in two genres. He's a legendary entertainer who captivated audiences across races, genres, and generations. He's the icon of all icons.
I voted Prince because I enjoy him more, but Michael is a very worthwhile choice here.
OTOH everything DDY said is true. MJ owns the GOAT album in two genres. He's a legendary entertainer who captivated audiences across races, genres, and generations. He's the icon of all icons.
I voted Prince because I enjoy him more, but Michael is a very worthwhile choice here.
Michael Jackson is the greater cultural icon. But he only had 1 truly great album and a couple of pretty good ones. Prince simply had more great songs than MJ and by a significant margin. Record sales are only one aspect of greatness. Thriller sold a ton of copies but so did the Eagles Greatest Hits.
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Brb - need to jo after reading that.
Like the Osmonds!!
Pole closed. Prince with the 15-6 smack down.
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@RaceBannon @BleachedAnusDawg the people have spoken
@RaceBannon @BleachedAnusDawg the people have spoken
Kids today
No class and no taste
No class and no taste
I'm actually older than you in spirit. I was listening to Frank Sinatra last night on technology which was obsolete by the mid 80s.
Album sales are not even close. MJ >>>>>>>>>>> Prince.
He worked smarter, not harder. The King of Pop.
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