Sonics are not coming back

Joey

Joey

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Just a guess. Adam silver suddenly mum on expansion. Dallas is following the same playbook as the OKC owners did. Came from Vegas. Majority owner sells out and now has zero say in anything. Arena lease soon to be up for renewal and renovation. They’re going to ask for something the city won’t or can’t approve. Trading away the marketable star players. Now they’ve announced they’re increasing ticket prices 8.9%. Frankly, I don’t care if the franchise comes back because they told me in 08 they were done with me so I couldn’t give a shit but I understand some do want it back and I do have a son that I feel terrible I can’t take him to an NBA game without driving to Portland or getting on an airplane. What’s bizarre is the local media doesn’t even catch on to the Mavericks situation here.
 
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Lots of people in DFW are aware of what is going on and what's on the table
The NBA is a terrible product with Silver at the helm and will only get worse when the current elder statesmen retire
I heard LBJ the other night talk about the players of today don't cheat the game …
Rich of him to say coming off of an All-Star game that is full of players cheating the game
 
I don't think the NBA would want to lose a team in the fifth or sixth biggest market, but the NFL was out of both L.A. and Houston for a while.

Agree with Tequila that it's a bad product, plus the political stuff (TITTT), and load management.
 
I think the owners see the writing on the wall with regards to ratings taking a shit and that future media rights deals are not going to be as rich. Those guys don't want to have two more mouths to feed.
The one thing that could offset that is the new franchise fee. If they can charge the (rumored as of Aug 2024) $4 billion - per new team - that money goes 100% to the owners and I doubt that they would sneeze at getting $266 million in total, per owner.
They could also be waiting on the Celtics sale to close which probably pushes team values even higher and would push that franchise fee up.
Also, don't sleep on supersonic flight (not to be confused with the Seattle Supersonics) as opening the door to having international teams in all sports, but the NBA would be the most likely due to plane size and capacity with regards to the size of team rosters.

Boom: America’s answer to Concorde completes its first supersonic flight | CNN
 
Joey said:
Just a guess. Adam silver suddenly mum on expansion. Dallas is following the same playbook as the OKC owners did. Came from Vegas. Majority owner sells out and now has zero say in anything. Arena lease soon to be up for renewal and renovation. They’re going to ask for something the city won’t or can’t approve. Trading away the marketable star players. Now they’ve announced they’re increasing ticket prices 8.9%. Frankly, I don’t care if the franchise comes back because they told me in 08 they were done with me so I couldn’t give a shit but I understand some do want it back and I do have a son that I feel terrible I can’t take him to an NBA game without driving to Portland or getting on an airplane. What’s bizarre is the local media doesn’t even catch on to the Mavericks situation here.
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Wait, you mean Seattle's too busy with their tired grievance to pay attention to the fact that the NBA is a piece of shit league with no future and no need for the current number of teams, let alone more teams?
Plus, they didn't ask for the trade but they got an NHL team instead. A hockey team in Seattle has much more of a chance than an NBA team in today's climate where stars demand to be everything except an actual basketball player that shuts the fuck up, shows up to all 82 games and boxes out without acting like a whiny pussy to everyone. Just like Portland, nobody that isn't drafted by Seattle is going to want to go there in FA unless they're overpaid. Which whoever owns the Sonics will be just like the Mariners brass and not spend a single fucking penny into the luxury tax. The Portland Duckzers were propped up by a guy that really, really wanted to win and then he died, and now we?re just like every other cold weather franchise.
Like, every major city needs 4+ fucking pro teams now? Vegas needs NFL, MLB, wants NBA and already had NHL?
Portland wants a fucking MLB team. A fucking MLB team. It's all a giant joke.
PS if you take your kid to a Blazer game DO NOT. EVER. Agree. To wait in line for the dip n dots/caramel popcorn at halftime. There's 4+ in arena breweries here by just ONE setup for kids candy shit.
 
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Tequilla said:
Lots of people in DFW are aware of what is going on and what's on the table
The NBA is a terrible product with Silver at the helm and will only get worse when the current elder statesmen retire
I heard LBJ the other night talk about the players of today don't cheat the game …
Rich of him to say coming off of an All-Star game that is full of players cheating the game
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The utter embarrassment that's happening in Dallas is ironically the only reason anyone started paying attention before May.
 
haie said:
Joey said:
Just a guess. Adam silver suddenly mum on expansion. Dallas is following the same playbook as the OKC owners did. Came from Vegas. Majority owner sells out and now has zero say in anything. Arena lease soon to be up for renewal and renovation. They’re going to ask for something the city won’t or can’t approve. Trading away the marketable star players. Now they’ve announced they’re increasing ticket prices 8.9%. Frankly, I don’t care if the franchise comes back because they told me in 08 they were done with me so I couldn’t give a shit but I understand some do want it back and I do have a son that I feel terrible I can’t take him to an NBA game without driving to Portland or getting on an airplane. What’s bizarre is the local media doesn’t even catch on to the Mavericks situation here.
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Wait, you mean Seattle's too busy with their tired grievance to pay attention to the fact that the NBA is a piece of shit league with no future and no need for the current number of teams, let alone more teams?
Plus, they didn't ask for the trade but they got an NHL team instead. A hockey team in Seattle has much more of a chance than an NBA team in today's climate where stars demand to be everything except an actual basketball player that shuts the fuck up, shows up to all 82 games and boxes out without acting like a whiny pussy to everyone. Just like Portland, nobody that isn't drafted by Seattle is going to want to go there in FA unless they're overpaid. Which whoever owns the Sonics will be just like the Mariners brass and not spend a single fucking penny into the luxury tax. The Portland Duckzers were propped up by a guy that really, really wanted to win and then he died, and now we?re just like every other cold weather franchise.
Like, every major city needs 4+ fucking pro teams now? Vegas needs NFL, MLB, wants NBA and already had NHL?
Portland wants a fucking MLB team. A fucking MLB team. It's all a giant joke.
PS if you take your kid to a Blazer game DO NOT. EVER. Agree. To wait in line for the dip n dots/caramel popcorn at halftime. There's 4+ in arena breweries here by just ONE setup for kids candy shit.
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I see a lot of Blazer games starting at $4 on stubhub.
The NBA, it's FAAAAANTASTIC!
 
I would rather watch women's beach volleyball than an NBA or a MLB game. Both basketball and baseball are way too repetitive.
In football, you could see a play happen that you've never seen before.

 
The other day I was thinking about how when I was a kid and teenager I lived and died with the Sonics and Husky basketball teams. Even with the 82 game schedule, every game felt meaningful . Looking back it's kind of retarded of me. Today, I have zero interest in the NBA.
 
DerekJohnson said:
The other day I was thinking about how when I was a kid and teenager I lived and died with the Sonics and Husky basketball teams. Even with the 82 game schedule, every game felt meaningful . Looking back it's kind of retarded of me. Today, I have zero interest in the NBA.
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I went to watch them play the Bulls in the Kingdome in 92 or 93 and it was almost a full house and we sat pretty high up. It was a big fucking deal. I don’t think you could give me tickets for free to go if they came back.
 
The Sonics were special to the city and state. First major professional sports franchise. Only world title (yeah yeah, Seattle Metropolitans whatever). Pilots sucked, Mariners sucked, Seahawks sucked and then didn’t.

Seattle was a hoop town because of the Sonics. All the NBA guys who came out of Beach, Garfield and the UW were weened on Sonics teet.

Hard to recapture that magic. Slick is disabled, GP is pushing 60 and Kemp is busy trying to secure his weed shop.
 
PurpleThrobber said:
The Sonics were special to the city and state. First major professional sports franchise. Only world title (yeah yeah, Seattle Metropolitans whatever). Pilots sucked, Mariners sucked, Seahawks sucked and then didn’t.

Seattle was a hoop town because of the Sonics. All the NBA guys who came out of Beach, Garfield and the UW were weened on Sonics teet.

Hard to recapture that magic. Slick is disabled, GP is pushing 60 and Kemp is busy trying to secure his weed shop.
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I had to Google GP's age to see that is, in fact, true.
FUCK.
 
Petros told Softy they’re trying to move to Vegas and got no return comment from him yesterday
 
17 years is a lot longer than anyone thought it would be. Considering the franchise was 41 years at the time, kind of wild it's about the half way mark. There is still interest, but that carrots been dangling out there so long, its now moldy, dry and about to fall off of the string.
 
The Sonics were my favorite for most of the 41 years. I was getting tired of the bullshit but would have stuck around for Durant and the rest that lost to LeBron in the Finals way back when. The whole arena thing is fucking retarded. Either build your own or take what the taxpayers give you and like it
 
The NBA is closer to contraction than they are expansion. Ratings are at all time lows, the product stinks, and people are sick of “load management”. The only good thing the NBA has done in the last 15 years is to saddle ESPN with the worst television deal of all time. Now maybe we can get two sinking ships and get real networks like NBC, CBS, and Fox taking the reins.
 
greenblood said:
The NBA is closer to contraction than they are expansion. Ratings are at all time lows, the product stinks, and people are sick of “load management”. The only good thing the NBA has done in the last 15 years is to saddle ESPN with the worst television deal of all time. Now maybe we can get two sinking ships and get real networks like NBC, CBS, and Fox taking the reins.
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Yeah I don't really know how these things work but at some point the part-owner type of contracts and cringe messaging that the players send to fans with all their bullshit, as if they're just celebrities that jack up a 3 instead of starring in movies, that seems like that isn't going to be fixed until the league is truly a sport that 3-6 major cities care about, like baseball.
At some point the money just isn't there and moving the team to a bigger market will only hurt the product more. Not sure how long that's going to take.
Silver absolutely needs to go at this point. His ideas have all been not just gay, but also retarded.
 
greenblood said:
The NBA is closer to contraction than they are expansion. Ratings are at all time lows, the product stinks, and people are sick of “load management”. The only good thing the NBA has done in the last 15 years is to saddle ESPN with the worst television deal of all time. Now maybe we can get two sinking ships and get real networks like NBC, CBS, and Fox taking the reins.
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Indeed. I'd rather watch the NBA on TNT crew shoot the shit for 2 hours than watch a full NBA game.
My college-age sons still love the NBA, but I think it's more about nostalgia than actually liking the product.
They agree that the game has been "solved" with analytics, and without significant rule changes it will remain a three-point and layup/dunk contest.
 
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