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And USC's defense needs MAJOR work.
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Indeed. That defense is a dumpster fire and there's nothing that indicates Riley and Grinch can fix it. Look at Oklahoma's D every year under Riley/Grinch. It's moldy rotten shit. I don't get it.
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Maybe he’s banking on the Pac-12 QB situation remaining the same as all the top rated ones leave the region other than who he brings to USC?
 
Said it in another thread, but USC is vulnerable for one year because of the talent void from their bad 2019/2020 classes. Riley will recruit and have them elite soon enough… but the Pac12 can prevent a landslide if we collectively keep them at 8-4 or 9-3 next season
 
Riley wants to coach at the highest level. If he’s as good as he should be at USC, he’ll be gone in less than five years and be in the NFL.

There are no Sabans who stay at one place for 10-20 years anymore. If Saban wasn’t 106 years old, he’d move on, too.

Not sure what this has to do with UW, but we will all still be bitching and moaning about our? coach this year, next year and fucking forever. It’s what we do.
 
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And USC's defense needs MAJOR work.
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Indeed. That defense is a dumpster fire and there's nothing that indicates Riley and Grinch can fix it. Look at Oklahoma's D every year under Riley/Grinch. It's moldy rotten shit. I don't get it.
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Maybe he’s banking on the Pac-12 QB situation remaining the same as all the top rated ones leave the region other than who he brings to USC?
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I'm sure he will get top QB talent just like he has at Oklahoma. That hasn't kept him from having unspeakable losses every year and numerous one-score victories in a shitty conference. He's barely beaten juggernauts like Army, Tulane, and Kansas and he's been repeatedly beaten by Kansas State, Iowa State, and Baylor despite talent advantages ... He's a very good coach but I wouldn't call him great yet until he fields a top 50 defense.
 
Problem I have with the hire is USC and LSU swung for the fences and nailed it. Did UW even try? Did UW try to lure a lateral hire from a power 5? Going after a coach that would make WSU and Arizona excited just doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you tried and struck out everywhere else. I am hopeful this guy and his staff kill it, but very pessimistic at the lazy ass approach and failure to even try.
 
Does this extend to the fan bases as well? Because some people seriously need it especially up in here...https://twitter.com/pac12/status/1465335763810226185
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You should PM @IrishDawg22, he has this place dialed in.
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Problem I have with the hire is USC and LSU swung for the fences and nailed it. Did UW even try? Did UW try to lure a lateral hire from a power 5? Going after a coach that would make WSU and Arizona excited just doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you tried and struck out everywhere else. I am hopeful this guy and his staff kill it, but very pessimistic at the lazy ass approach and failure to even try.
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Ironic.
https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1465438668114382848
 
When Mel Tucker got 9 million after going 8-1 the market changed

7 million is chump change
 
Problem I have with the hire is USC and LSU swung for the fences and nailed it. Did UW even try? Did UW try to lure a lateral hire from a power 5? Going after a coach that would make WSU and Arizona excited just doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you tried and struck out everywhere else. I am hopeful this guy and his staff kill it, but very pessimistic at the lazy ass approach and failure to even try.
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Sorry to break it to you all but we've not been relevant for 30 years outside of a year with Pete.

Forget recruits being alive, most coaches were kids at best.

Both USC and LSU have won NCs or multiple since "we" did.

Heck when replacing Owens we had to hire a guy from Kent State who was 7-4.

Sure we'd love to steal Saban from Bama but it ain't going to happen.
 
Congratulations to Jen Cohen for hiring the best high school football coach west of Minneapolis. Reportedly Jen Pushed Hard For Chuck Tarbox of Juanita, Dee Hawkes from Bothell, Monte Kohler, O’Dea, Bill Beattie, Tumwater all quoted family concerns and a lack of commitment from upper campus in declining Jen’s overtures.
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Lame take. “Warren Winlock Miller Race Race Bannon Duckfighter Illustrated Bill Moos Olympia High School[/i]” trash Bill Beattie doesn’t deserve mention. Everyone knows Tumwater = Sid Otton. His grandsons, Cade and Ryan, should beat you. Repeatedly.

#HotSouthSoundHighSchoolFootballTakes

 
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Campbell isn’t worth $7 million a year. I’m glad UW didn’t go higher than that with him. He’s done nothing to deserve that kind of payday.
 
Campbell isn’t worth $7 million a year. I’m glad UW didn’t go higher than that with him. He’s done nothing to deserve that kind of payday.
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Couldn't agree more. Campbell at 7 million wasn't a big dick move at all. I think it was conservative and safe, but still overpaying for someone with no record of being elite.

I think what people are mostly pissed about is that UW didn't go 8 figures per year and snag a coach from a playoff contender. I get it but I can't be too pissed about that when I never thought it was in the picture.
 
Problem I have with the hire is USC and LSU swung for the fences and nailed it. Did UW even try? Did UW try to lure a lateral hire from a power 5? Going after a coach that would make WSU and Arizona excited just doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you tried and struck out everywhere else. I am hopeful this guy and his staff kill it, but very pessimistic at the lazy ass approach and failure to even try.
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You're asking questions that have very well documented answers. That UW made a huge pitch to Campbell and was turned down is pretty common knowledge at this point.

I wouldn't be shocked if Jen made overtures to Aranda and Stoops too, and they just told her to fuck off from the get go.

Jen should be fired irregardless, but you're a fucking idiot if you thought we had a shot at any of those guys in the first place (though I doogishly dreamed of Campbell), especially given the competition of open jobs. Cohen or no Cohen, we're not a fucking blue blood. You're a bit late to the party if you're just now bitching about an administration that decided to stop running with the big boys 25 years ago. So know your place and enjoy your moderately encouraging G5 hire and hope for the stars to align just like every other school that isn't a perennial top 10 has to.
 
Campbell isn’t worth $7 million a year. I’m glad UW didn’t go higher than that with him. He’s done nothing to deserve that kind of payday.
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Couldn't agree more. Campbell at 7 million wasn't a big dick move at all. I think it was conservative and safe, but still overpaying for someone with no record of being elite.

I think what people are mostly pissed about is that UW didn't go 8 figures per year and snag a coach from a playoff contender. I get it but I can't be too pissed about that when I never thought it was in the picture.
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First, you need a dick to make a big dick hire. UW has no dick, let alone a big one.
 
Swaye, you think Tarbox and Dee wouldn’t do as well as this guy? Ha.. Dude put down the Rose Colored glasses. Riley is going to own this conference along with Super Mario for the next 8 years. Jen didn’t open up the check book. USC finally said fuck it. That’s a problem. Curious as to why you think Riley won’t dominate.
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I said I disagreed with MOST of your post. In another thread I said I could see Riley making it USC and the 11 dwarves again. High probability Riley kills it at USC.
 
Campbell isn’t worth $7 million a year. I’m glad UW didn’t go higher than that with him. He’s done nothing to deserve that kind of payday.
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Couldn't agree more. Campbell at 7 million wasn't a big dick move at all. I think it was conservative and safe, but still overpaying for someone with no record of being elite.

I think what people are mostly pissed about is that UW didn't go 8 figures per year and snag a coach from a playoff contender. I get it but I can't be too pissed about that when I never thought it was in the picture.
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Here’s the thing, Jen doesn’t have that kinda attitude. She probably thought to herself, I’d love to offer a Riley or similar but he’d never Oklahoma.
 
All the Lincoln Riley hype is so overblown. The guy did jack shit at Oklahoma. He took over a ready made Stoops machine and never won a big game. In fact, the wheels were starting to come off. Now he is taking over a dumpster fire. I think Lincoln has a date with Ford's Theater in about 3 years.
 
Problem I have with the hire is USC and LSU swung for the fences and nailed it. Did UW even try? Did UW try to lure a lateral hire from a power 5? Going after a coach that would make WSU and Arizona excited just doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you tried and struck out everywhere else. I am hopeful this guy and his staff kill it, but very pessimistic at the lazy ass approach and failure to even try.
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Ironic.
https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1465438668114382848
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Sorry but I don’t see Campbell as a huge win over DeBoer. I also don’t see Iowa State as a lateral move, though maybe I should. Campbell is nowhere near the same sizzle as Riley, Kelly, etc. it would be the same as Kansas State stealing Wilcox from Cal.
 
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