So we stopped the blank check to Ukraine

Not sure why you're trying to so hard to dodge the question. What does "From the river to the sea" mean to you?

Russia isn't looking to kill all Ukranians. Russia doesn't want to exterminate Ukrainians from the earth. Hamas has a charter to kill all Jews. Full stop. Defending yourself from extinction is a little more critical than fighting over land and resources.

Outside of their weather space lasers, I have no issues with Jews and want them to live in peace.
I already said multiple times in multiple threads that I know what it means and I’m not dodging the question. I am Jewish. I know all about it. And Hamas is awful.

You’re right that Russia does not want to wipe out all Ukrainians. It doesn’t make their invasion any less tolerable when it comes to world diplomacy and keeping the peace. You’re just making excuses for Russia because their reasons are different from Hamas. It doesn’t excuse attacking another country.
”yeah, the circumstances are different, but that doesn’t make it different”
Okay!
 
Not sure why you're trying to so hard to dodge the question. What does "From the river to the sea" mean to you?

Russia isn't looking to kill all Ukranians. Russia doesn't want to exterminate Ukrainians from the earth. Hamas has a charter to kill all Jews. Full stop. Defending yourself from extinction is a little more critical than fighting over land and resources.

Outside of their weather space lasers, I have no issues with Jews and want them to live in peace.
I already said multiple times in multiple threads that I know what it means and I’m not dodging the question. I am Jewish. I know all about it. And Hamas is awful.

You’re right that Russia does not want to wipe out all Ukrainians. It doesn’t make their invasion any less tolerable when it comes to world diplomacy and keeping the peace. You’re just making excuses for Russia because their reasons are different from Hamas. It doesn’t excuse attacking another country.
”yeah, the circumstances are different, but that doesn’t make it different”
Okay!
I said it doesn’t make Russia’s war any more acceptable. Someone here has to learn to read at some point.

funny how you guys argue with me so much about this while continuing to say you don’t want America to fund either one of them.
 
As I've said in multiple threads, my company has significant SW development in Ukraine. I'm on calls with folks in Kiev for two hours a day, minimum. I've had them be late for calls because they were just getting back from the bomb shelter, they drop off teams mtgs because missile strikes take out power and internet, many of our male employees will not leave their homes because their friends have been conscripted.

I'm not making any excuses for Russia.

But if you think Putin is going to tuck tail, run and leave behind what he's already stolen you're mistaken. So- keep fighting and kill an entire generation of men? Or, take a knee. Have Zelensky resign, set a peace. Sign the deal for mineral rights with the US so Putin thinks twice about another landgrab in the region.

Does the everyday Russian want to kill Ukranians? Not likely. Does the everyday Gazan want to kill Jews- you know the answer there.

That's how I rationalize my position.
 
As I've said in multiple threads, my company has significant SW development in Ukraine. I'm on calls with folks in Kiev for two hours a day, minimum. I've had them be late for calls because they were just getting back from the bomb shelter, they drop off teams mtgs because missile strikes take out power and internet, many of our male employees will not leave their homes because their friends have been conscripted.

I'm not making any excuses for Russia.

But if you think Putin is going to tuck tail, run and leave behind what he's already stolen you're mistaken. So- keep fighting and kill an entire generation of men? Or, take a knee. Have Zelensky resign, set a peace. Sign the deal for mineral rights with the US so Putin thinks twice about another landgrab in the region.

Does the everyday Russian want to kill Ukranians? Not likely. Does the everyday Gazan want to kill Jews- you know the answer there.

That's how I rationalize my position.
The Throbber notes how you spell it Kiev not that faggy Kyiv.
 
Not sure why you're trying to so hard to dodge the question. What does "From the river to the sea" mean to you?

Russia isn't looking to kill all Ukranians. Russia doesn't want to exterminate Ukrainians from the earth. Hamas has a charter to kill all Jews. Full stop. Defending yourself from extinction is a little more critical than fighting over land and resources.

Outside of their weather space lasers, I have no issues with Jews and want them to live in peace.
I already said multiple times in multiple threads that I know what it means and I’m not dodging the question. I am Jewish. I know all about it. And Hamas is awful.

You’re right that Russia does not want to wipe out all Ukrainians. It doesn’t make their invasion any less tolerable when it comes to world diplomacy and keeping the peace. You’re just making excuses for Russia because their reasons are different from Hamas. It doesn’t excuse attacking another country.
”yeah, the circumstances are different, but that doesn’t make it different”
Okay!
I said it doesn’t make Russia’s war any more acceptable. Someone here has to learn to read at some point.

funny how you guys argue with me so much about this while continuing to say you don’t want America to fund either one of them.
The guy you voted for gave Vlad permission to invade. Yet here you are…
 
Apparently the people you voted for and helped fund Hamas do support that.
apparently you don’t realize you don’t have to agree with everything your candidates say or do, and that it’s dumb to blanket every person someone voted for as supporting that one thing.
I do realize that. It's just I can't get one leftard on the Tug to elucidate in a clear fashion exactly what policy reasons led to voting for a dementia patient in 2020 and then for Headboard in 2024.
I’ve said it several times why I didn’t ever vote for Trump and why. Even mentioned you in a post the other day, since you always ask for this. Even when I do that, “clearly elucidating” my positions is usually a waste of time because a bunch of the group here refuses to read, then floods the thread with insults. Or they refuse to read links, research, articles, etc, because that anything that doesn’t suck Trump’s cock is fake news.
If you’re not here for a reasonable discussion and just want to talk shit, then there’s no discussion to be had, and I love talking shit right back. Plus it’s funnier. I’m clearly very outnumbered in my opinions, but if I wanted to listen to an echo chamber, there’s hundreds of places I could go.
Translation: "I'm not smart enough to summarize my policy reasons."
And I've never seen a reasonable explanation for your dementia patient/Headboard vote. Because Trump is Hitler and will be the end of democracy isn't a reasonable explanation. A reasonable explanations would be:
I support open borders and the US as the world's welfare magnet.
I support dirty voting rolls, ballot harvesting with no chain of custody, no voter ID required, no signature verification and weeks to "count" ballots.
I support limiting US oil and gas production, EV car mandates, expensive non-reliable solar and wind energy and massive funding of necessary transmission upgrades to accomplish this.
I support releasing criminals and mentally ill people onto the streets and decriminalizing the open use and sale of fentanyl and property theft.
I support eternal wars.
I support predatory trade agreements by everyone except retalatory trade agreements by the US.
I support printing money to pay for fraud and waste in our government agencies.
I support etc. etc.
Flail away. Like buck, actually talking about policy for a leftard is getting into the weeds. Anyone that looks into the weeds is heartless.
 
We get a lot of tech from Israel because it isn't a stone age society
we get their intel too. their intel network keeps the USA government on top of affairs in the middle east against countries like Iran.
all for keeping Israel as a close ally. Hamas is bad news. but sending them blank checks to blow up kids and families in Gaza while simultaneously arguing for the blank checks and killing to stop in Ukraine is hypocritical where I'm concerned. just because Israel is a closer ally doesn't make it any more acceptable.
Israel did everything it could to NOT kill innocent civilians. It broadcast over radio and television and dropped millions of pamphlets warning the citizens to get out of areas that the Israeli's were going to hunt and kill hamas members. They literally could have turned GAZA into glass and wiped all those Jew hating assholes off the map but they didn't. They showed amazing restraint. The problem is hamas wouldn't let them leave. They needed the human shields.
Lastly, I used to laugh at the lib msm here in this country when they used body counts of children that were given to them by hamas. What a bunch of fucking Jew hating idiots.
If you call everyone a Jew hater and Nazi, it loses its meaning, dumbass. The left does it too obviously, but you're just as guilty. Wanting to stop funding Israel's war due to mass civilian casualties (of which there are, that is a fact) isn't anti-Semitic.
You support a political party that elects Jew hating representatives FFS. Your evil spawn are attacking fellow college students on campuses across the country. Your two past Presidents were less than respectful to Israeli leadership, BO being the worst. Of course he went to an openly America, whitey and Jew hating church for 21 years so what should one suspect?
Your party is full of people who are anti-semitic. The party of the KKK. You deserve scorn for supporting it you dumbass.
 
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