So Browning is a sophomore

Q for the bored.

I remember Carson Palmer being absolute shit for 3 years and then exploding as a senior. What changed with him and why can't Brownsocks do the same?
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Ever heard of Pete Carroll?
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I don't think Pete Caroll's players are hearing him anymore
 
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Q for the bored.

I remember Carson Palmer being absolute shit for 3 years and then exploding as a senior. What changed with him and why can't Brownsocks do the same?
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Unless Brownsocks suddenly sprouts to 6'5 and can spin the ball like Carson it ain't happening.
 
With this staff, assuming *any* second-year player won't continue to improve is FS. Especially a guy who works as hard as Browning.

Browning wasn't great in the Peach Bowl, obviously. He made one clearly disastrous decision, and missed on plenty of other throws. But after all the Brownsockery in November, I really feared he'd come out looking like a deer in headlights against Bammer. He didn't. The moment wasn't too big for him. He was merely imperfect.

Browning is never gonna be Vince Young. But he's a pretty deadly weapon already, and he's only been on campus two years. Also, he will never face another college D as dominant as that one -- not even when UW rematches with Bammer next year.
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If the problem were his skill, then I would agree.

The problem is he is one of the biggest chokers I've ever seen and he's done it literally since his first game here.

The problem is mental.
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And here's the shitter about it. All through spring ball, fall camp, and the regular season next year he's going to have to hear about how he has played against legit defenses, plus I don't see a "big game" for him to exercise that demon until SC in the Pac-12 Champ. Game where it very well could be winner to the playoffs loser to a bowl game other than the Rose as they get one of the semi-finals.

 
The play call was fucking horrible, but I'm not against trying to get 3 there with Bama getting the ball after half. They were swollowing our receiver screens all day.

Browning didn't light the world on fire, but people act like arguably the best D in college football history wasn't shit shoving the OL with 4 rushers and blanketing our playmakers.

We needed to be perfect and we weren't.

Kill Smith. This team can win a championship with Browning. Just not this year against Sabans best team.
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it wasn't a wide reciever screen.
I don't even think it was a called swing pass, just a really bad ill-advised check down
 
The play call was fucking horrible, but I'm not against trying to get 3 there with Bama getting the ball after half. They were swollowing our receiver screens all day.

Browning didn't light the world on fire, but people act like arguably the best D in college football history wasn't shit shoving the OL with 4 rushers and blanketing our playmakers.

We needed to be perfect and we weren't.

Kill Smith. This team can win a championship with Browning. Just not this year against Sabans best team.
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it wasn't a wide reciever screen.
I don't even think it was a called swing pass, just a really bad ill-advised check down
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No. It was a designed swing pass to #22. It speaks horribly to our experience and OC. On experience, McGary doesn't look inside on a classic zone blitz. His DE takes a step forward and fades to cover the RB. The blitz comes to his inside gap and he doesn't look there. Straight shot at QB.

It's awful coaching because Bama knew that play based upon our playing calling in that situation throughout the year. They schemed to it. It was obvious. A good counter would've been to fake the short field swing pass and lay it out to the wide side to Gaskin with 10yds in front.
 
While Browning is a great QB against bad and mid level College teams, He doesn't have the tools for the show. With that said, He doesn't have to be all that good for you guys to win 10-12 games in the next couple of seasons. However once you get to the playoff or other NY6 games, his warts are and will continue to be visible.
 
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He improved a ton this year over last year. He still has lots of room to improve. Hopefully he can make that similar jump next year and perform well against the good defenses we face.
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Sometimes with how critical this board is of everything it seems like it gets forgotten he was a true sophomore. I think it's because we are scarred from the Sark years, and think a player wont improve and will infact get worse the longer he stays
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BUT HES ONLY A SOPHOMORE!!!!!!
 
I wasn't one thinking we should sit on it at the end of the half. We got there; now try to fucking win. Can't win playing scared. Glad most here aren't coaching this team. Wouldn't win shit with that scared mentality.

They tried; they failed. Now come back again next year and try again.
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So... your logic is as follows:

A strategy that PROVED to be the worst possible strategy and contributed heavily to the loss is better than a more conservative strategy that wouldn't have contributed to the loss, because conservative strategies are bad. And you are smart because you know this.

Forget the avatar, just fucking kill yourself.
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You be conservative at the end of the half within 3 pts. What you don't do is be Conservative when down 17-7 in the 4th quarter and punt on 4th and 2 near the 50 yard line. Peterson more or less threw the white flag there whether he realized it or not.
 
With this staff, assuming *any* second-year player won't continue to improve is FS. Especially a guy who works as hard as Browning.

Browning wasn't great in the Peach Bowl, obviously. He made one clearly disastrous decision, and missed on plenty of other throws. But after all the Brownsockery in November, I really feared he'd come out looking like a deer in headlights against Bammer. He didn't. The moment wasn't too big for him. He was merely imperfect.

Browning is never gonna be Vince Young. But he's a pretty deadly weapon already, and he's only been on campus two years. Also, he will never face another college D as dominant as that one -- not even when UW rematches with Bammer next year.
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If the problem were his skill, then I would agree.

The problem is he is one of the biggest chokers I've ever seen and he's done it literally since his first game here.

The problem is mental.
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And here's the shitter about it. All through spring ball, fall camp, and the regular season next year he's going to have to hear about how he has played against legit defenses, plus I don't see a "big game" for him to exercise that demon until SC in the Pac-12 Champ. Game where it very well could be winner to the playoffs loser to a bowl game other than the Rose as they get one of the semi-finals.
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Which is dumb because Stanford, Oregon, and Utah were all big games when they were played. Browning has a toughness, if you watch him stiff arm the Bama lineman. He'll perform next year. It more has to do with Smith not finding the right game plan for his skills. It's Smith's job to make Browning succeed.
 
Q for the bored.

I remember Carson Palmer being absolute shit for 3 years and then exploding as a senior. What changed with him and why can't Brownsocks do the same?
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Ever heard of Pete Carroll?
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Pete Carroll, the defensive coach who doesn't even touch the QB position? Sark was Palmer's QB coach at USC.
 
Serious question: wtf is wrong with hiring Beau Baldwin as qb coach?
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His offenses look great in a conference that plays no defense. And he once lucked out with VAJ, But beating the Cuogs in September doesn't take much, nor does beating OSU, or scoring 50 against Nick Holt's porous UW defense.

He would likely top out around Smiff's Mountain West level in the Pac12.
 
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Serious question: wtf is wrong with hiring Beau Baldwin as qb coach?
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Serious question, when you have you ever seen a successful FCS head coach leave for a fucking position coach job?
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Chip Kelly, Oregon Ducks. (Fucked that up)

Moorhead, Penn State(Fordham hc to OC/Qb)

pay me bitch
 
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Carroll's first year at USC was Palmer's junior year. And he sucked.

Palmer was 6'5" with a strong arm his first 4 years (including an injury redshirt). He sucked.

Seriously, going in to his senior year, he had thrown the same number of TDs as INTs in his USC career. And then he lit it up.
 
While Browning is a great QB against bad and mid level College teams, He doesn't have the tools for the show. With that said, He doesn't have to be all that good for you guys to win 10-12 games in the next couple of seasons. However once you get to the playoff or other NY6 games, his warts are and will continue to be visible.
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I'm going to just go ahead and disregard anything you say because you're a well-documented dumbfuck.

Browning is going to get better because he has coaches that will make him better. It's rare to find a soph QB that can win at the peak level of college football, and Jake isn't like Billy Joe.

Still, I think the chances of you having any fucking idea where Browning will be a year from now is pretty close to zero.

So fuck off.
 
The play call was fucking horrible, but I'm not against trying to get 3 there with Bama getting the ball after half. They were swollowing our receiver screens all day.

Browning didn't light the world on fire, but people act like arguably the best D in college football history wasn't shit shoving the OL with 4 rushers and blanketing our playmakers.

We needed to be perfect and we weren't.

Kill Smith. This team can win a championship with Browning. Just not this year against Sabans best team.
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it wasn't a wide reciever screen.
I don't even think it was a called swing pass, just a really bad ill-advised check down
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No. It was a designed swing pass to #22. It speaks horribly to our experience and OC. On experience, McGary doesn't look inside on a classic zone blitz. His DE takes a step forward and fades to cover the RB. The blitz comes to his inside gap and he doesn't look there. Straight shot at QB.

It's awful coaching because Bama knew that play based upon our playing calling in that situation throughout the year. They schemed to it. It was obvious. A good counter would've been to fake the short field swing pass and lay it out to the wide side to Gaskin with 10yds in front.
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Great teachable moments.
 
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