GrandpaSankey
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This is why I dont blame @RoadDawg55 for being done with Sirmon
Also Wellington....
Worst Linebacker group of my lifetime.
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Sirmon plays with eyes closed
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This is why I dont blame @RoadDawg55 for being done with Sirmon
Also Wellington....
Worst Linebacker group of my lifetime.
There's a reverse angle of that play that looks even worser. Tryon vs Cal level.
If Sirmon doesnt completely fuck it up Bryant makes the play on the QB
Yep. If Sirmon stays home, that blocker takes him and Bryant makes the play. It would be a tough block for the USC player to make on Sirmon too.
It was a shitty play by Sirmon and he was fooled. I’m not critical of him because of that okay. It’s his game on the whole. The coaches son cliches about having a high football IQ aren’t showing up at all.
BeerThirty
New Fish
not good by Sirmon. I'm sure I'll get blasted for this but I think it was more of a good play by the USC TE. Sirmon committed to taking on that block and at the last moment the TE put a good move on him and then took out Bryant. I see this as a mistake that will be corrected with experience.
Fire away.
Fire away.
PurpleSmoke
New Fish
Monday morning Keyboard QBs don't normally notice those details. That is why watching film is different than jumping to conclusions after watching a clip a few times.
This is close to an amazing play by Sirmon, little more experience and he'll know not to put his head down and miss the blocker, he'll do exactly what Bryant does and submarine that big bitch and clear up the play for someone else.
1to392831weretaken
New Fish
Should have been holding on 73.
Should have been illegal block below the waist on Bryant (which, weirdly, can be called on the defense).
Should have been a blown-up TE by Sirmon. Probably. I'd have to know responsibilities in that scheme.
Should have been illegal block below the waist on Bryant (which, weirdly, can be called on the defense).
Should have been a blown-up TE by Sirmon. Probably. I'd have to know responsibilities in that scheme.
GrundleStiltzkin
New Fish
USC OL is very good at holding and getting away with it.
PostGameOrangeSlices
Well-known poster
Im amazed USC called running plays for Fink. I think the UW players were too
I’ll summarize. Sirmon went in with his head down allowing the TE to sidestep him.
If Sirmon keeps his head up and engages the TE, Fink might cut inside or more likely, Bryant is able to get there and make the tackle.
If Sirmon keeps his head up and engages the TE, Fink might cut inside or more likely, Bryant is able to get there and make the tackle.
TurdBomber
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I'll take average at this point. Average would be 3 steps above our LB play right now.
TurdBomber
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What's with the fancy big words, man?
PostGameOrangeSlices
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They have been fine vs the run. They will definitely get schemed out...I think the big USC runs were on the outside where the DE/OLB/BUCK/Whatever lost contain. We were dropping 7 at some points.
TurdBomber
Active poster
The containment issue is perplexing. My HS coaches emphasized it from day one, freshman year. Of course the OL blocking is far superior at this level, but holding the edge is such a fundamental and primary job, I'm amazed that our guys frequently over-pursue (Or under-pursue - Hi Tryon!) and make the OL's job even easier than if they just took on a block.
Time and again, UW literally concedes or abandons it by choice with bad angles or shit like this - putting your head down near the ground. Wellington did that on a tackle early in the game, too. WTF is with our LBs going head first into a runner's feet like fox diving into the snow?
Houhusky
New Fish
And before anyone trying to make some long winded post about the complexities of Sirmon's reads...
Sirmon has no TE in front of him this play is incredibly easy for him and is actually the perfect situation for the defense....
Only one WR on his side with the CB taking outside leverage and Bryant taking away the slant so Sirmon has no (dropping) pass coverage responsibilities.
He has exactly one job on this play, attack the outside shoulder of either a pulling/crossing blocker and cancel them and if no one comes attack whoever has the ball outside shoulder.
Even in a scenario where Sirmon gets blown up and kicked outside by the TE, as long as he is on the outside shoulder Wellington SHOULD be filling that hole between the OT and TE to make the easy play. Even if Sirmon had just laid down like a FSU OL speedbump and got in the way of the TE, Bryant probably makes a play on the QB even though its not really primary responsibility.
TLDR: The offense called a QB run with one blocker into a defense that had Sirmon, Wellington, and Bryant to cover it and they still scored a TD.
Stay on the outside shoulder and get in the way of the TE, thats all Sirmon had to do....
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He’s not better that Wellington or Manu. Many at least hits and sometimes makes plays in the backfield. Wellington sucks, but is fast and athletic.
Some guys drastically improve, some don’t. I’m not buying Sirmon stock. We always talk about everything matters and we need the best. I can’t see him getting there. Absolutely nothing stands out about him.
RealRhino
New Fish
Yeah, even against keyboard all-stars I don't think you can salvage that play for Sirmon. "Almost made an amazing play?" What are you watching? He almost did his job, that's all. But failed completely. Just what Hou said. One job to do there, easy read, basically like a little kid closing his eyes and swinging at a fastball and hoping to make contact. Fuck, he even tried to take the inside shoulder. WTF for, to seal yourself off and give the runner open space?!?
WHAT. THE. FUCK. DOES. BOB. GREGORY. DO. AROUND. HERE?
He's had Sirmon and Tafisi for basically a year and a half and they miss basic shit.
WHAT. THE. FUCK. DOES. BOB. GREGORY. DO. AROUND. HERE?
He's had Sirmon and Tafisi for basically a year and a half and they miss basic shit.