Scott Walker

[greenblood]

I like Carson, but it will be Fiorina vs Biden in 2016

Sanders lie Trump is completely unelectable

I agree that it will be hard for Sanders once everybody starts to associate him with Socialism to a larger degree -- but I know a number of Independents that normally vote Republican -- that are leaning towards Sanders now because they view him as the only candidate with a track record of telling the truth. And politicians that tell the truth are a rare breed - in any party. They view that is being more important than his stance of some of the issues that they don't agree with. This is one of the reasons he is doing so well in Utah now, in a recent poll of all voters (not just democrat).

Unfortunately just telling the truth isn't going to get him elected. I don't like his position on estate tax. I've never liked that tax, because it basically taxes already taxed assets. Now he wants to increase it. He also wants to raise the tax limit on the rich, which is fine, but most of their taxes comes from capital gains and not net income, so good luck with that. Rich people are rich for a reason. The system is so broken now, there is a loophole for everything. The rich will find it. Then, the only thing left is to tax the upper middle class then on down, to help pay for the poor.

The one thing Carson and Sanders agree on, that bothers me is the $15/hr minimum wage by 2020 nonsense. I love how they talk about increasing jobs. How are you supposed to do that if employees cost more than twice as much after you factor in payroll taxes.

The onyl solution to the tax problem is the flat tax. It's simple, and as with things that are simple, it prevents much of the loopholes that currently hurt our system today.

 

[Swaye]

I started this thread hoping someone would tell me who the fuck Scott Walker is. This bored has failed me.

 

[greenblood]

I started this thread hoping someone would tell me who the fuck Scott Walker is. This bored has failed me.

Johnnie Walker's boring cousin

 

[doogsinparadise]

I started this thread hoping someone would tell me who the fuck Scott Walker is. This bored has failed me.

A used car salesman that somehow conned Wisky into electing him their governor.

 

[RaceBannon]

3 times

 

[MisterEm]

3 times

But still.

 

[Thump]

I like Carson, but it will be Fiorina vs Biden in 2016

Sanders lie Trump is completely unelectable

I agree that it will be hard for Sanders once everybody starts to associate him with Socialism to a larger degree -- but I know a number of Independents that normally vote Republican -- that are leaning towards Sanders now because they view him as the only candidate with a track record of telling the truth. And politicians that tell the truth are a rare breed - in any party. They view that is being more important than his stance of some of the issues that they don't agree with. This is one of the reasons he is doing so well in Utah now, in a recent poll of all voters (not just democrat).

Unfortunately just telling the truth isn't going to get him elected. I don't like his position on estate tax. I've never liked that tax, because it basically taxes already taxed assets. Now he wants to increase it. He also wants to raise the tax limit on the rich...

It gets him elected in Vermont, sure it is a small state, but Republicans vote for him too, and the gun lobby, because he isn't anti gun -- which is popular in a state full of hunters.

Even if he does want to increase taxes, the legislative branch wouldn't let him go very far.

But in the end I agree, he isn't very electable. But I think he is more electable than Trump is.

 

[greenblood]

I like Carson, but it will be Fiorina vs Biden in 2016

Sanders lie Trump is completely unelectable

I agree that it will be hard for Sanders once everybody starts to associate him with Socialism to a larger degree -- but I know a number of Independents that normally vote Republican -- that are leaning towards Sanders now because they view him as the only candidate with a track record of telling the truth. And politicians that tell the truth are a rare breed - in any party. They view that is being more important than his stance of some of the issues that they don't agree with. This is one of the reasons he is doing so well in Utah now, in a recent poll of all voters (not just democrat).

Unfortunately just telling the truth isn't going to get him elected. I don't like his position on estate tax. I've never liked that tax, because it basically taxes already taxed assets. Now he wants to increase it. He also wants to raise the tax limit on the rich...

It gets him elected in Vermont, sure it is a small state, but Republicans vote for him too, and the gun lobby, because he isn't anti gun -- which is popular in a state full of hunters.

Even if he does want to increase taxes, the legislative branch wouldn't let him go very far.

But in the end I agree, he isn't very electable. But I think he is more electable than Trump is.

PLSS is more electable than Trump. Trump is going to fade once the bottom feeders leave the race and endorse other candidates. The only way Trump can overcome that is if he gets over 50% which he is already slowing down and is barely above 30%. The writing is on all wall.

 

[sarktastic]

I started this thread hoping someone would tell me who the fuck Scott Walker is. This bored has failed me.

well... stop thinking about it or you might get depressed and end up on a firewater, drug induced tatted hooker binge... and what will that solve?

 

[Kaepsknee]

I like Carson, but it will be Fiorina vs Biden in 2016

Sanders lie Trump is completely unelectable

I agree that it will be hard for Sanders once everybody starts to associate him with Socialism to a larger degree -- but I know a number of Independents that normally vote Republican -- that are leaning towards Sanders now because they view him as the only candidate with a track record of telling the truth. And politicians that tell the truth are a rare breed - in any party. They view that is being more important than his stance of some of the issues that they don't agree with. This is one of the reasons he is doing so well in Utah now, in a recent poll of all voters (not just democrat).

Unfortunately just telling the truth isn't going to get him elected. I don't like his position on estate tax. I've never liked that tax, because it basically taxes already taxed assets. Now he wants to increase it. He also wants to raise the tax limit on the rich, which is fine, but most of their taxes comes from capital gains and not net income, so good luck with that. Rich people are rich for a reason. The system is so broken now, there is a loophole for everything. The rich will find it. Then, the only thing left is to tax the upper middle class then on down, to help pay for the poor.

The one thing Carson and Sanders agree on, that bothers me is the $15/hr minimum wage by 2020 nonsense. I love how they talk about increasing jobs. How are you supposed to do that if employees cost more than twice as much after you factor in payroll taxes.

The onyl solution to the tax problem is the flat tax. It's simple, and as with things that are simple, it prevents much of the loopholes that currently hurt our system today.

I was against the min wage increase before I am now for it. It will certainly change things for small business which was the main reason I was against it. But Corporate America isn't playing fair. They either off shore jobs by the thousands to low income countries or offer part time work as to avoid paying benefits to employees, all the while making record profits that largely don't find their way back into the economy. Or they abundacize and do both.

 

[greenblood]

I like Carson, but it will be Fiorina vs Biden in 2016

Sanders lie Trump is completely unelectable

I agree that it will be hard for Sanders once everybody starts to associate him with Socialism to a larger degree -- but I know a number of Independents that normally vote Republican -- that are leaning towards Sanders now because they view him as the only candidate with a track record of telling the truth. And politicians that tell the truth are a rare breed - in any party. They view that is being more important than his stance of some of the issues that they don't agree with. This is one of the reasons he is doing so well in Utah now, in a recent poll of all voters (not just democrat).

Unfortunately just telling the truth isn't going to get him elected. I don't like his position on estate tax. I've never liked that tax, because it basically taxes already taxed assets. Now he wants to increase it. He also wants to raise the tax limit on the rich, which is fine, but most of their taxes comes from capital gains and not net income, so good luck with that. Rich people are rich for a reason. The system is so broken now, there is a loophole for everything. The rich will find it. Then, the only thing left is to tax the upper middle class then on down, to help pay for the poor.

The one thing Carson and Sanders agree on, that bothers me is the $15/hr minimum wage by 2020 nonsense. I love how they talk about increasing jobs. How are you supposed to do that if employees cost more than twice as much after you factor in payroll taxes.

The onyl solution to the tax problem is the flat tax. It's simple, and as with things that are simple, it prevents much of the loopholes that currently hurt our system today.

I was against the min wage increase before I am now for it. It will certainly change things for small business which was the main reason I was against it. But Corporate America isn't playing fair. They either off shore jobs by the thousands to low income countries or offer part time work as to avoid paying benefits to employees, all the while making record profits that largely don't find their way back into the economy. Or they abundacize and do both.

Minimum wage increases will just ship large corporation jobs overseas, while small business suffer. Corporations will continue to profit, except it will be from other currencies, while more jobs are cut in the corporate and small business sectors. sounds like a terrific idea

 

[Swaye]

I started this thread hoping someone would tell me who the fuck Scott Walker is. This bored has failed me.

well... stop thinking about it or you might get depressed and end up on a firewater, drug induced tatted hooker binge... and what will that solve?

Pretty much everything.

 

[2001400ex]

I like Carson, but it will be Fiorina vs Biden in 2016

Sanders lie Trump is completely unelectable

I agree that it will be hard for Sanders once everybody starts to associate him with Socialism to a larger degree -- but I know a number of Independents that normally vote Republican -- that are leaning towards Sanders now because they view him as the only candidate with a track record of telling the truth. And politicians that tell the truth are a rare breed - in any party. They view that is being more important than his stance of some of the issues that they don't agree with. This is one of the reasons he is doing so well in Utah now, in a recent poll of all voters (not just democrat).

Unfortunately just telling the truth isn't going to get him elected. I don't like his position on estate tax. I've never liked that tax, because it basically taxes already taxed assets. Now he wants to increase it. He also wants to raise the tax limit on the rich, which is fine, but most of their taxes comes from capital gains and not net income, so good luck with that. Rich people are rich for a reason. The system is so broken now, there is a loophole for everything. The rich will find it. Then, the only thing left is to tax the upper middle class then on down, to help pay for the poor.

The one thing Carson and Sanders agree on, that bothers me is the $15/hr minimum wage by 2020 nonsense. I love how they talk about increasing jobs. How are you supposed to do that if employees cost more than twice as much after you factor in payroll taxes.

The onyl solution to the tax problem is the flat tax. It's simple, and as with things that are simple, it prevents much of the loopholes that currently hurt our system today.

I was against the min wage increase before I am now for it. It will certainly change things for small business which was the main reason I was against it. But Corporate America isn't playing fair. They either off shore jobs by the thousands to low income countries or offer part time work as to avoid paying benefits to employees, all the while making record profits that largely don't find their way back into the economy. Or they abundacize and do both.

Minimum wage increases will just ship large corporation jobs overseas, while small business suffer. Corporations will continue to profit, except it will be from other currencies, while more jobs are cut in the corporate and small business sectors. sounds like a terrific idea

You can't ship service jobs overseas. HTH

 

[Kaepsknee]

I like Carson, but it will be Fiorina vs Biden in 2016

Sanders lie Trump is completely unelectable

I agree that it will be hard for Sanders once everybody starts to associate him with Socialism to a larger degree -- but I know a number of Independents that normally vote Republican -- that are leaning towards Sanders now because they view him as the only candidate with a track record of telling the truth. And politicians that tell the truth are a rare breed - in any party. They view that is being more important than his stance of some of the issues that they don't agree with. This is one of the reasons he is doing so well in Utah now, in a recent poll of all voters (not just democrat).

Unfortunately just telling the truth isn't going to get him elected. I don't like his position on estate tax. I've never liked that tax, because it basically taxes already taxed assets. Now he wants to increase it. He also wants to raise the tax limit on the rich, which is fine, but most of their taxes comes from capital gains and not net income, so good luck with that. Rich people are rich for a reason. The system is so broken now, there is a loophole for everything. The rich will find it. Then, the only thing left is to tax the upper middle class then on down, to help pay for the poor.

The one thing Carson and Sanders agree on, that bothers me is the $15/hr minimum wage by 2020 nonsense. I love how they talk about increasing jobs. How are you supposed to do that if employees cost more than twice as much after you factor in payroll taxes.

The onyl solution to the tax problem is the flat tax. It's simple, and as with things that are simple, it prevents much of the loopholes that currently hurt our system today.

I was against the min wage increase before I am now for it. It will certainly change things for small business which was the main reason I was against it. But Corporate America isn't playing fair. They either off shore jobs by the thousands to low income countries or offer part time work as to avoid paying benefits to employees, all the while making record profits that largely don't find their way back into the economy. Or they abundacize and do both.

Minimum wage increases will just ship large corporation jobs overseas, while small business suffer. Corporations will continue to profit, except it will be from other currencies, while more jobs are cut in the corporate and small business sectors. sounds like a terrific idea

This is already happening anyway. The difference is that you and Me get to pay for the current shortfall in Gubment benefits, not the corporation.

 

[pawz]

I started this thread hoping someone would tell me who the fuck Scott Walker is. This bored has failed me.

A used car salesman that somehow conned Wisky into electing him their governor.

If liberal teachers are so smart (just ask them), then how did they manage to let a con-man poke them in the discipline hole?

 

[RaceBannon]

The minimum wage gets too much attention for how many people are actually on it. I know, old white rich etc. But still, it's entry level shit and service companies will hire less people to do more work, something that is already happening.

I heard Carson say that he thinks the economy needs to grow with jobs that pay well over the minimum wage. At that point who cares what the minimum wage is. I'll go along with 15 bucks, who fucking cares?

we need real jobs

 

[greenblood]

The minimum wage gets too much attention for how many people are actually on it. I know, old white rich etc. But still, it's entry level shit and service companies will hire less people to do more work, something that is already happening.

I heard Carson say that he thinks the economy needs to grow with jobs that pay well over the minimum wage. At that point who cares what the minimum wage is. I'll go along with 15 bucks, who fucking cares?

we need real jobs

The first thing I thought of, is like how we have self checkout at grocery stores. Fast food restaurants can do the same thing. People can click on what combo meal(s) they want then pay for it by cash or card through the machine. Once paid, the machine can pass the order to the line people to make the food.

In essence minimum wage people will make more, but there will be less of them working, so where is the gain?

 

[doogsinparadise]

I like Carson, but it will be Fiorina vs Biden in 2016

Sanders lie Trump is completely unelectable

I agree that it will be hard for Sanders once everybody starts to associate him with Socialism to a larger degree -- but I know a number of Independents that normally vote Republican -- that are leaning towards Sanders now because they view him as the only candidate with a track record of telling the truth. And politicians that tell the truth are a rare breed - in any party. They view that is being more important than his stance of some of the issues that they don't agree with. This is one of the reasons he is doing so well in Utah now, in a recent poll of all voters (not just democrat).

Unfortunately just telling the truth isn't going to get him elected. I don't like his position on estate tax. I've never liked that tax, because it basically taxes already taxed assets. Now he wants to increase it. He also wants to raise the tax limit on the rich, which is fine, but most of their taxes comes from capital gains and not net income, so good luck with that. Rich people are rich for a reason. The system is so broken now, there is a loophole for everything. The rich will find it. Then, the only thing left is to tax the upper middle class then on down, to help pay for the poor.

The one thing Carson and Sanders agree on, that bothers me is the $15/hr minimum wage by 2020 nonsense. I love how they talk about increasing jobs. How are you supposed to do that if employees cost more than twice as much after you factor in payroll taxes.

The onyl solution to the tax problem is the flat tax. It's simple, and as with things that are simple, it prevents much of the loopholes that currently hurt our system today.

I was against the min wage increase before I am now for it. It will certainly change things for small business which was the main reason I was against it. But Corporate America isn't playing fair. They either off shore jobs by the thousands to low income countries or offer part time work as to avoid paying benefits to employees, all the while making record profits that largely don't find their way back into the economy. Or they abundacize and do both.

Minimum wage increases will just ship large corporation jobs overseas, while small business suffer. Corporations will continue to profit, except it will be from other currencies, while more jobs are cut in the corporate and small business sectors. sounds like a terrific idea

I'm hearing that most minimum wage jobs are in industries that can't be outsourced, robotics on the other hand is another problem.

 

[sarktastic]

Why is it a problem? Do you hate lowest cost, highest quality goods?