School Shooting in Georgia.

[Sledog]

So if I already own an assault weapon can I keep it?

I imagine so. Voluntary buybacks seem sensible though. And licensing/registration, like driving a car. Whatever it takes to help keep that shit in responsible citizen's hands and away from the scum. Any law abiding citizen should have no problem with this if they care about reducing gun violence.
This isn't black and white. There will always be bad actors trying to skirt the system, but it needs to be harder to do so. It's about reducing risk, not eliminating it. That would be impossible.
I don't have the answers, I only have ideas and an understanding that new solutions are needed. The status quo is insane. American gun culture is crazy. I understand the appeal. I don't own, but I've used many times. I get it. I also understand the appeal of oxycodone.

I think it’s cute that you think you need to license and register a car to own one.

No. You need to license and register a car and get a license and buy insurance if you want to legally use one. At any given point on the road at least a quarter of the drivers are driving uninsured. And cops aren’t even pulling drivers over now when the tabs are expired.

So no, you don’t have to license or register a car to own one.

So why should I license or register a gun if I’m not going to go out and use it. Hunters already by licenses. My guns are in my house or in my holster. What advantage would there be to anyone to license or register them other than making it easier to know where they are for the non mandatory take back.

Black and white thinking, again. Ignorant of what I said entirely.
Of course there's people skirting the regs on the road. I've been there. Would you rather have zero regulations on the road, with no capability and insurance requirements? Cmon now.
There's 350 million people in this country and 500 million guns produced since 1899. Dozens of mass murders a year, many in schools and grocery stores. We gonna just throw up our hands and let bygones be bygones? Fuckin' 'ell.

Still avoiding the question I asked. Stop tap dancing and answer.

 

[CallMeBigErn]

Admitting to a fully American problem and engaging in possible solutions is hard. I command y'all for trying.

 

[Goduckies]

Summer of love ended me ever wanting gun control... sorry when the democrats prefer anarchy and the revolving door justice system, I won't give up my right to bear arms....

 

[Sledog]

Fern! I'm getting old waitng for your answer. Why do you not want to answer the question? Because you're clueless?

 

[CallMeBigErn]

Fern! I'm getting old waitng for your answer. Why do you not want to answer the question? Because you're clueless?

What question?

 

[CallMeBigErn]

Summer of love ended me ever wanting gun control... sorry when the democrats prefer anarchy and the revolving door justice system, I won't give up my right to bear arms....

Hillary is not taking your guns, brother. The point continues to be missed.
Summer of Love? Are you 75?

 

[pawz]

I need to register it with the state. For what purpose? I’ve already gotten a background check, what other business is there to sort out? Your ideal is a soft blacklist, which I’m on guaranteed. Not for doing anything wrong but simply for questioning the states integrity publicly.

Yet you have a driver's license and register your car annually without question. Or do you?

Yes, because there are annoying consequences if I don't. And I knew what those were when I purchased the car. What are the consequences if I fail to register my gun(s)?
Also sounds like solid logic to have voter ID, but that's a bridge too far as we know.

Don't deflect.
It's not unreasonable for legal things that can cause death to have some basic requirements. It's a societal good. Imagine roadways without licenses, vehicle registrations, and insurance requirements. If you genuinely care about providing society with a better means to curb gun violence, particularly kids getting massacred at schools, you should have no problem registering your gun and licensing your capability to operate one. I can't figure out why any rational brain would disagree with that. This is not infringement on 2nd amendment rights, it would be common sense legislation. For any law abiding citizen who cares about gun violence, that is. Nobody is taking your guns. Just sack up and get a license and gun registration. It'll take a half hour out of your day every few years. Small price to pay for your right to shoot shit with death bullets. It ain't crazy. Do you have a warrant or something?

Water is a "legal things that can cause death"

Apply your logic to water, in detail please.

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[pawz]

@Bob_C
Why does my opinion about penalties matter?
I just drove the last week on an expired license. Fines would have been $500-$1000 if I was caught. For some reason I thought I had to go to the DMV, hell on Earth, and I slacked, but then I realized I could renew it online. We're all set now.
More strawmen to avoid the point, naturally. If one Tug member admits that guns, especially the assault weapon/mod extremes, are part of the problem, and that some real solutions to reduce risk are needed, I'll rest easy. It's not the entire problem, obviously, but it's a part of it. Trump himself banned bump stocks. What a monster.
All I see is gangs, migrants, mandatory buyback shrieks, transgenders, and an unwillingness to take guns seriously and responsibly.

Admit what?

The problem is psychological - both individually and societally. Not material.

You either fail to grasp this concept or you don't care. In which case, fuck you.

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[CallMeBigErn]

The next time you have something semi-interesting or funny to say, it will be a first. Try a mountain retreat for a few weeks and see if you can come back stronger.
Most predictable motherfucker on here, as I've stated before. You repeat the same shit in most of your posts. I notice these things.
Work on it. Embrace change. Embrace improvement. We're all capable.

 

[pawz]

If you don't care about the constitution there are a lot easier ways to stop crime. Pre crime convictions. Hold without bail. Beat the fuck out of suspects. Sweeps of high crime areas. Stop and frisk. Gizmo
But you guys want to go after law abiding citizens while crying over the rights of criminals
Why would anyone trust you? Ban violent movies and porn. Shut down the internet. Stop giving boys drugs when they act like boys
You fucks have spent 30 years calling anyone who wants to get tough on crime racist. People want guns thanks to leftist policies
When Vinny the Venezuelan comes to collect the rent you better have a gun
But we do have a constitution thank Allah
Shall not infringe motherfucker
And I've never owned a gun. Haven't fired one since Gettysburg

Your ideas are mostly post-facto and infringe on many of the individual freedoms you hold so dear. Sweeps, stop and frisk, pre crime convictions? I've never heard of that one, but wow. You can't be serious. The Constitution for some, but not others, sounds like.
We already have the largest prison population by far. You want more draconian shit? That's not helping prevent gun violence and mass shootings whatsoever. That's the topic here, not gang violence. These are separate subjects. Those problems need to be tackled as well. I'm skeptical mass incarceration is the answer. We've tried that.
Back to the point, I like to handle problems before they happen. Keeping guns out of the hands of scum and in the hands of responsible citizens, as well as mental health investment and law enforcement reforms, are all part of the solution. Otherwise we're just spinning our wheels.

The wheels are spinning because you want to ban cars because of drunk driving.

The person operating the material matters most. AINEC.

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[pawz]

Me paying to register my gun would have no impact on saving any lives. Floor is yours to show how it could. Bearswiin is definetly a gun grabber, so while you may have pure motives he definetly just wants government to exercise raw power. Get control over your fellow leftists then we can talk.

Who said you would have to pay? I'd say it should be free. I could even see the government paying gun owners to get licensed and their guns registered.
Big ideas here.

I’d pay money to not be on a list and be left alone. Its not about the money.

You brought up money.
So you don't actually give a shit about a simple idea that can help reduce guns in the hands of those who shouldn't have them, despite it not affecting you in any way.
Fuck everyone else. Unalienable!

If criminals don't and wont go through proper channels, how will that reduce the number of guns in criminal hands? Or any of your other solutions? Please explain how.

Take as much time as you need.

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[CallMeBigErn]

If you don't care about the constitution there are a lot easier ways to stop crime. Pre crime convictions. Hold without bail. Beat the fuck out of suspects. Sweeps of high crime areas. Stop and frisk. Gizmo
But you guys want to go after law abiding citizens while crying over the rights of criminals
Why would anyone trust you? Ban violent movies and porn. Shut down the internet. Stop giving boys drugs when they act like boys
You fucks have spent 30 years calling anyone who wants to get tough on crime racist. People want guns thanks to leftist policies
When Vinny the Venezuelan comes to collect the rent you better have a gun
But we do have a constitution thank Allah
Shall not infringe motherfucker
And I've never owned a gun. Haven't fired one since Gettysburg

Your ideas are mostly post-facto and infringe on many of the individual freedoms you hold so dear. Sweeps, stop and frisk, pre crime convictions? I've never heard of that one, but wow. You can't be serious. The Constitution for some, but not others, sounds like.
We already have the largest prison population by far. You want more draconian shit? That's not helping prevent gun violence and mass shootings whatsoever. That's the topic here, not gang violence. These are separate subjects. Those problems need to be tackled as well. I'm skeptical mass incarceration is the answer. We've tried that.
Back to the point, I like to handle problems before they happen. Keeping guns out of the hands of scum and in the hands of responsible citizens, as well as mental health investment and law enforcement reforms, are all part of the solution. Otherwise we're just spinning our wheels.

The wheels are spinning because you want to ban cars because of drunk driving.

The person operating the material matters most. AINEC.

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You said "most".
That's a start.

 

[pawz]

Commie Fern pops up like a prairie dog for an m stone constitution destruction.
Be the first in the die Fern.

I don’t think he’s doing it for the wrong reasons. He’s wrong on everything but he has a pure heart, it’s the other low testosterone jackals that lurk behind him and eager to take the next step that are the problem. Ern is the unknowing Trojan horse for what the actual plans are.

Some would call that a useful idiot. Some would do that. I would.

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[pawz]

@Sledog
Nobody is taking away your right to own guns, bruh. I just feel there should be some reasonable requirements and/or regulations on the extreme weapons and mods that are currently legal, often the ones used in mass killings. You don't need those to hunt pheasant. And you should have to reload normally.

Bullshit. That's exactly the plan

This isn't about hunting. It's about tyranny.

Wake the fuck up.

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[CallMeBigErn]

 

[pawz]

If you don't care about the constitution there are a lot easier ways to stop crime. Pre crime convictions. Hold without bail. Beat the fuck out of suspects. Sweeps of high crime areas. Stop and frisk. Gizmo
But you guys want to go after law abiding citizens while crying over the rights of criminals
Why would anyone trust you? Ban violent movies and porn. Shut down the internet. Stop giving boys drugs when they act like boys
You fucks have spent 30 years calling anyone who wants to get tough on crime racist. People want guns thanks to leftist policies
When Vinny the Venezuelan comes to collect the rent you better have a gun
But we do have a constitution thank Allah
Shall not infringe motherfucker
And I've never owned a gun. Haven't fired one since Gettysburg

Your ideas are mostly post-facto and infringe on many of the individual freedoms you hold so dear. Sweeps, stop and frisk, pre crime convictions? I've never heard of that one, but wow. You can't be serious. The Constitution for some, but not others, sounds like.
We already have the largest prison population by far. You want more draconian shit? That's not helping prevent gun violence and mass shootings whatsoever. That's the topic here, not gang violence. These are separate subjects. Those problems need to be tackled as well. I'm skeptical mass incarceration is the answer. We've tried that.
Back to the point, I like to handle problems before they happen. Keeping guns out of the hands of scum and in the hands of responsible citizens, as well as mental health investment and law enforcement reforms, are all part of the solution. Otherwise we're just spinning our wheels.

The wheels are spinning because you want to ban cars because of drunk driving.

The person operating the material matters most. AINEC.

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You said "most".
That's a start.

God you are fucking retarded.

AINEC = And It's Not Even Close

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[pawz]

You may never get it. The repeats are board lexicon. It's funny 23 tims (another lexicon joke).

Maybe ask around. Get your reads dialed in. The cringe is not funny or entertaining.

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[CallMeBigErn]

You may never get it. The repeats are board lexicon. It's funny 23 tims (another lexicon joke).

Maybe ask around. Get your reads dialed in. The cringe is not funny or entertaining.

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Board lexicon needs to be used tastefully. When it's every post, it's unimaginative and boring as fuck. I need more. I need better.

 

[pawz]

You may never get it. The repeats are board lexicon. It's funny 23 tims (another lexicon joke).

Maybe ask around. Get your reads dialed in. The cringe is not funny or entertaining.

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Board lexicon needs to be used tastefully. When it's every post, it's unimaginative and boring as fuck. I need more. I need better.

You need a set of balls.

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[CallMeBigErn]

You may never get it. The repeats are board lexicon. It's funny 23 tims (another lexicon joke).

Maybe ask around. Get your reads dialed in. The cringe is not funny or entertaining.

.

Board lexicon needs to be used tastefully. When it's every post, it's unimaginative and boring as fuck. I need more. I need better.

You need a set of balls.

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