Saturday's Scrimmage - Teq's Thoughts

[theknowledge]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

Gaskin absolutely split snaps with Lavon Coleman and then Savon Ahmed. He always ran for around 1100 yards and his backups between 400-600 yards. Coleman may have cracked 700 in 2016, I can't remember.

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

Gaskin absolutely split snaps with Lavon Coleman and then Savon Ahmed. He always ran for around 1100 yards and his backups between 400-600 yards. Coleman may have cracked 700 in 2016, I can't remember.

1100?

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

Gaskin absolutely split snaps with Lavon Coleman and then Savon Ahmed. He always ran for around 1100 yards and his backups between 400-600 yards. Coleman may have cracked 700 in 2016, I can't remember.

1100?

Gascan averaged 1300 yards per season.
Coleman ran for 850 in 2016.

 

[theknowledge]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

Gaskin absolutely split snaps with Lavon Coleman and then Savon Ahmed. He always ran for around 1100 yards and his backups between 400-600 yards. Coleman may have cracked 700 in 2016, I can't remember.

1100?

Whatever. Point is he didn’t run for 1600 like Dillon or 1800 like Sankey. Dillon, Sankey and Polk were true bell cows. They all pushed or surpassed 300 carries a year. Gaskin was getting between 220-250 carries. The backup RBs with Pete were between 150-200 carries combined per year. It was divided up. If Coleman is healthy he’ll get 215 carries this year and Mohammed should get 65-80 and the rest should get 20-40. Demond will steal carries as well. If he doesn’t push UW over well over 300 carries as a team Judd should quit. The UW backs and QB are too good to deny them carries.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

Gaskin absolutely split snaps with Lavon Coleman and then Savon Ahmed. He always ran for around 1100 yards and his backups between 400-600 yards. Coleman may have cracked 700 in 2016, I can't remember.

1100?

Whatever. Point is he didn’t run for 1600 like Dillon or 1800 like Sankey. Dillon, Sankey and Polk were true bell cows. They all pushed or surpassed 300 carries a year. Gaskin was getting between 220-250 carries. The backup RBs with Pete were between 150-200 carries combined per year. It was divided up. If Coleman is healthy he’ll get 215 carries this year and Mohammed should get 65-80 and the rest should get 20-40. Demond will steal carries as well. If he doesn’t push UW over well over 300 carries as a team Judd should quit. The UW backs and QB are too good to deny them carries.

Look @theknowledge spitting the knowledge.

2016 squad top 3 RBs combined for 408 carries. Gascan 237, Coleman 114, Dotson 57.
Browning shows up having 65 carries but the stats page doesn’t show how many were sacks.

 

[haie]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

I don't think Coleman is showing any signs of being a prima dona.

He seriously looks like he's exhausted at being put in front of a camera at this point.

 

[Canadawg]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

I don't think Coleman is showing any signs of being a prima dona.

193 carries last year averaging 15 a game. Johnson had 233 even with a slow start. Gaskin had 259 in 2018!
Ill admit he's got some sweet swag but I don't think prima dona is outside the realm of possibility. Fisch is a coward if he doesn't hand it to him 20 times a game

 

[DerekJohnson]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

I don't think Coleman is showing any signs of being a prima dona.

193 carries last year averaging 15 a game. Johnson had 233 even with a slow start. Gaskin had 259 in 2018!
Ill admit he's got some sweet swag but I don't think prima dona is outside the realm of possibility. Fisch is a coward if he doesn't hand it to him 20 times a game

My only criticism, which I stated last year, was that with the medallion he looks like a moron. I cited how when I was about 19 I dressed like a moron. But I don't get a prima donna vibe from him at all. I'm super excited to see him run against Cuog and Ohio State.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Definitely seemed like Coleman was on a pitch count last year. There was also the perpetual bubbling of "he's injured" which who the fuck knows how true that was or if he had bad conditioning. Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now. Seems like it is and maybe should be the norm. The days of college running backs taking 25+ carries the way Polk and Gaskin would to grind out a win. One thing I did notice last year is sometimes after a big run, Coleman would demand the ball again, but then looked gassed and always got stuffed.
My assumption is Coleman got told at the end of last season that he isn't much more than just a guy right now and a late round pick, at best. So he got his head on straight, got in shape, and is ready to prove he should be a better half of the draft guy.

 

[theknowledge]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

I don't think Coleman is showing any signs of being a prima dona.

193 carries last year averaging 15 a game. Johnson had 233 even with a slow start. Gaskin had 259 in 2018!
Ill admit he's got some sweet swag but I don't think prima dona is outside the realm of possibility. Fisch is a coward if he doesn't hand it to him 20 times a game

Sankey had over 300 in 2013. That’s a massive number.

 

[dirtysouwfdawg]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

I don't think Coleman is showing any signs of being a prima dona.

193 carries last year averaging 15 a game. Johnson had 233 even with a slow start. Gaskin had 259 in 2018!
Ill admit he's got some sweet swag but I don't think prima dona is outside the realm of possibility. Fisch is a coward if he doesn't hand it to him 20 times a game

My only criticism, which I stated last year, was that with the medallion he looks like a moron. I cited how when I was about 19 I dressed like a moron. But I don't get a prima donna vibe from him at all. I'm super excited to see him run against Cuog and Ohio State.

get off my lawn POTD.

 

[Quietcowskee]

Coleman seems like a great dude and has already proven to be a damn good RB.

All I’m saying is…if we’re trying to salt a game away in the 4th qtr and Mohammad hasn’t proven to be dependable, Jedd needs Jonah on the MF field.

 

[Canadawg]

Definitely seemed like Coleman was on a pitch count last year. There was also the perpetual bubbling of "he's injured" which who the fuck knows how true that was or if he had bad conditioning. Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now. Seems like it is and maybe should be the norm. The days of college running backs taking 25+ carries the way Polk and Gaskin would to grind out a win. One thing I did notice last year is sometimes after a big run, Coleman would demand the ball again, but then looked gassed and always got stuffed.
My assumption is Coleman got told at the end of last season that he isn't much more than just a guy right now and a late round pick, at best. So he got his head on straight, got in shape, and is ready to prove he should be a better half of the draft guy.

"Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now."
What is we doin
If that's what CFB is now then we should just flip to Sunday football

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Definitely seemed like Coleman was on a pitch count last year. There was also the perpetual bubbling of "he's injured" which who the fuck knows how true that was or if he had bad conditioning. Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now. Seems like it is and maybe should be the norm. The days of college running backs taking 25+ carries the way Polk and Gaskin would to grind out a win. One thing I did notice last year is sometimes after a big run, Coleman would demand the ball again, but then looked gassed and always got stuffed.
My assumption is Coleman got told at the end of last season that he isn't much more than just a guy right now and a late round pick, at best. So he got his head on straight, got in shape, and is ready to prove he should be a better half of the draft guy.

"Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now."
What is we doin
If that's what CFB is now then we should just flip to Sunday football

Sounds like I’m be taking a waddle to get some perspective.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Definitely seemed like Coleman was on a pitch count last year. There was also the perpetual bubbling of "he's injured" which who the fuck knows how true that was or if he had bad conditioning. Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now. Seems like it is and maybe should be the norm. The days of college running backs taking 25+ carries the way Polk and Gaskin would to grind out a win. One thing I did notice last year is sometimes after a big run, Coleman would demand the ball again, but then looked gassed and always got stuffed.
My assumption is Coleman got told at the end of last season that he isn't much more than just a guy right now and a late round pick, at best. So he got his head on straight, got in shape, and is ready to prove he should be a better half of the draft guy.

"Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now."
What is we doin
If that's what CFB is now then we should just flip to Sunday football

I'm kind of torn on it. I've always felt guilty of running college running backs into the ground because their NFL longevity is so short and their bodies wear down. At the same time, now, if you're getting paid in college, expectations should be different, especially if you're making comparable money to what you would have as a late round draft pick.

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

Since when did managing college bell cow RBs reps become such a belabored point. Gaskin never came out of the game and Dillon Johnson hobbled his way to the NCG. As good as Coleman is I'm already kind of annoyed by his limited snaps last year and prima dona status this year

I don't think Coleman is showing any signs of being a prima dona.

193 carries last year averaging 15 a game. Johnson had 233 even with a slow start. Gaskin had 259 in 2018!
Ill admit he's got some sweet swag but I don't think prima dona is outside the realm of possibility. Fisch is a coward if he doesn't hand it to him 20 times a game

Looks fat. I thought he got winded pretty easily last year.

 

[Canadawg]

Definitely seemed like Coleman was on a pitch count last year. There was also the perpetual bubbling of "he's injured" which who the fuck knows how true that was or if he had bad conditioning. Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now. Seems like it is and maybe should be the norm. The days of college running backs taking 25+ carries the way Polk and Gaskin would to grind out a win. One thing I did notice last year is sometimes after a big run, Coleman would demand the ball again, but then looked gassed and always got stuffed.
My assumption is Coleman got told at the end of last season that he isn't much more than just a guy right now and a late round pick, at best. So he got his head on straight, got in shape, and is ready to prove he should be a better half of the draft guy.

"Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now."
What is we doin
If that's what CFB is now then we should just flip to Sunday football

I'm kind of torn on it. I've always felt guilty of running college running backs into the ground because their NFL longevity is so short and their bodies wear down. At the same time, now, if you're getting paid in college, expectations should be different, especially if you're making comparable money to what you would have as a late round draft pick.

Gaskin is still in the league
I don't think carrying the ball 3 more times vs getting run over in pass pro is as big a deal as people echo. Dlinemen and linebackers get way more contact in a game. The whole thing can quickly devolve to flag football and if these players don't want to do it then go get a real job or try basketball

 

[dirtysouwfdawg]

Definitely seemed like Coleman was on a pitch count last year. There was also the perpetual bubbling of "he's injured" which who the fuck knows how true that was or if he had bad conditioning. Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now. Seems like it is and maybe should be the norm. The days of college running backs taking 25+ carries the way Polk and Gaskin would to grind out a win. One thing I did notice last year is sometimes after a big run, Coleman would demand the ball again, but then looked gassed and always got stuffed.
My assumption is Coleman got told at the end of last season that he isn't much more than just a guy right now and a late round pick, at best. So he got his head on straight, got in shape, and is ready to prove he should be a better half of the draft guy.

"Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now."
What is we doin
If that's what CFB is now then we should just flip to Sunday football

I'm kind of torn on it. I've always felt guilty of running college running backs into the ground because their NFL longevity is so short and their bodies wear down. At the same time, now, if you're getting paid in college, expectations should be different, especially if you're making comparable money to what you would have as a late round draft pick.

as always… FTK.

 

[Kingdome_Urinals]

Definitely seemed like Coleman was on a pitch count last year. There was also the perpetual bubbling of "he's injured" which who the fuck knows how true that was or if he had bad conditioning. Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now. Seems like it is and maybe should be the norm. The days of college running backs taking 25+ carries the way Polk and Gaskin would to grind out a win. One thing I did notice last year is sometimes after a big run, Coleman would demand the ball again, but then looked gassed and always got stuffed.
My assumption is Coleman got told at the end of last season that he isn't much more than just a guy right now and a late round pick, at best. So he got his head on straight, got in shape, and is ready to prove he should be a better half of the draft guy.

"Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now."
What is we doin
If that's what CFB is now then we should just flip to Sunday football

I think Jedd wants to keep guys fresh for good NFL careers or draft positioning. His whole thing is "UW gets your ready for the league." Not hard to figure out.
Combined with the fact that riding Jonah with a crap OL in a 7-6 type season doesn't help set up for this year.

 

[Canadawg]

Definitely seemed like Coleman was on a pitch count last year. There was also the perpetual bubbling of "he's injured" which who the fuck knows how true that was or if he had bad conditioning. Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now. Seems like it is and maybe should be the norm. The days of college running backs taking 25+ carries the way Polk and Gaskin would to grind out a win. One thing I did notice last year is sometimes after a big run, Coleman would demand the ball again, but then looked gassed and always got stuffed.
My assumption is Coleman got told at the end of last season that he isn't much more than just a guy right now and a late round pick, at best. So he got his head on straight, got in shape, and is ready to prove he should be a better half of the draft guy.

"Don't think a college football running back having a pitch count in 2024 is diva behavior at all and wonder if it's in NIL agreements now."
What is we doin
If that's what CFB is now then we should just flip to Sunday football

I think Jedd wants to keep guys fresh for good NFL careers or draft positioning. His whole thing is "UW gets your ready for the league." Not hard to figure out.
Combined with the fact that riding Jonah with a crap OL in a 7-6 type season doesn't help set up for this year.

I like it when UW players do well in the NFL but its insignificant to how well they play at UW. Top RBs in the NFL were ran heavy in college it's a total contrived talking point that these football players can't play football if they want to be able to play football professionally