Russia vs. Ukraine predictions OT

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People forget that the winner of this game still has to beat Finland in the Gold Medal Match.

Also, this is clearly Apostle's best effort.
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Hahaha
..the winter war
Not Russia's best effort
 
The Bears really have the momentum on their side. The Ukrainians will try to put down the rebellion, organized by Russia, which orangeslices claims is a foolish attack on Russia, but Russia organized the rebellion, as they did in Crimea, thus once the shooting starts they rush in across the border, or parachute. Then they annex.
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This is how they'll do it.
 
Disagree. Spetznaz already in place.

The Bears really have the momentum on their side. The Ukrainians will try to put down the rebellion, organized by Russia, which orangeslices claims is a foolish attack on Russia, but Russia organized the rebellion, as they did in Crimea, thus once the shooting starts they rush in across the border, or parachute. Then they annex.
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This is how they'll do it.
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Disagree. Spetznaz already in place.

The Bears really have the momentum on their side. The Ukrainians will try to put down the rebellion, organized by Russia, which orangeslices claims is a foolish attack on Russia, but Russia organized the rebellion, as they did in Crimea, thus once the shooting starts they rush in across the border, or parachute. Then they annex.
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This is how they'll do it.
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I don't know what's better, the video or the sweet Russian techno dance music.
 
two things that can be learned from eastern Ukraine:

It's a good place to get a used tire. Some of the tires piled up outside police buildings look just fine.

It's all over for the kiev government as far as Russia goes and the east.
 
Russia beat this bastard. Satan on Earth:

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You can say it was a 50/50 effort but in reality it was more 70/30, Russia/allies. Moscow to Berlin is more than 1000 miles. PGOS thinks it's easy to defeat a country with that kind of will and instinct for survival. He's deluding himself.
 
Ukrainian military on the move results in big belly laughs among Putin's coaching staff.

Ukrainian President phones Obama and asks desperately, "Please reassure me that you have my back"
 
Probably going unnoticed by Putin is the SECDEF calling for the Army to reduce end-strength to 420K from 490K over the objections of the Chief of Staff. Oh, and all that gear we have in Afghanistan? It has to leave either by truck through Pakistan (hardy har har), via very expensive airlift, or via train through Russia (hardy har har har).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense...l-recommends-reducing-army-to-pre-ww2-levels/

FYFMFE (but especially me)
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SEC DEFense is overrated.

Hi Puppy!

 
Probably going unnoticed by Putin is the SECDEF calling for the Army to reduce end-strength to 420K from 490K over the objections of the Chief of Staff. Oh, and all that gear we have in Afghanistan? It has to leave either by truck through Pakistan (hardy har har), via very expensive airlift, or via train through Russia (hardy har har har).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense...l-recommends-reducing-army-to-pre-ww2-levels/

FYFMFE (but especially me)
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The army, while not totally irrelevant, is still pretty fucking irrelevant. The Navy and AF are of far more importance, and I bet 99% of the shit the army does can be automated.
 
This has to be a contender for "stupidest fucking comment ever made on this website." Way stupider than anything I ever said about grunge music.

PGOS - please to be explaining how the Navy and the AF were able to combat the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how the Navy and the AF provide a land-based deterrent in Korea. For that matter, what happens to the AF and the Navy when the Army goes away? Here's a clue: the Army provides logistical support to all services in deployed environments. The Army provides the water purification specialists and the cooks and the doctors and the medics (except for Marine corpsmen). But you can automate that shit, right?

Real_God knows that all those private contractors Rumsfeld hired worked out great, you know, on time and below budget and all that shit, right? Oh, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED? Never mind.

Fact: At the end of the day, wars are won by boots on the ground. The Air Force is dominated by flyboys that want to be Top Gun, and the Navy clings to a belief that expensive carrier fleets are viable when ballistic missiles are cheap and so are the submarines that fire them.

Now, if you were just saying this to troll me - I compliment you.

Probably going unnoticed by Putin is the SECDEF calling for the Army to reduce end-strength to 420K from 490K over the objections of the Chief of Staff. Oh, and all that gear we have in Afghanistan? It has to leave either by truck through Pakistan (hardy har har), via very expensive airlift, or via train through Russia (hardy har har har).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense...l-recommends-reducing-army-to-pre-ww2-levels/

FYFMFE (but especially me)
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The army, while not totally irrelevant, is still pretty fucking irrelevant. The Navy and AF are of far more importance, and I bet 99% of the shit the army does can be automated.
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This has to be a contender for "stupidest fucking comment ever made on this website." Way stupider than anything I ever said about grunge music.

PGOS - please to be explaining how the Navy and the AF were able to combat the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how the Navy and the AF provide a land-based deterrent in Korea. For that matter, what happens to the AF and the Navy when the Army goes away? Here's a clue: the Army provides logistical support to all services in deployed environments. The Army provides the water purification specialists and the cooks and the doctors and the medics (except for Marine corpsmen). But you can automate that shit, right?

Real_God knows that all those private contractors Rumsfeld hired worked out great, you know, on time and below budget and all that shit, right? Oh, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED? Never mind.

Fact: At the end of the day, wars are won by boots on the ground. The Air Force is dominated by flyboys that want to be Top Gun, and the Navy clings to a belief that expensive carrier fleets are viable when ballistic missiles are cheap and so are the submarines that fire them.

Now, if you were just saying this to troll me - I compliment you.

Probably going unnoticed by Putin is the SECDEF calling for the Army to reduce end-strength to 420K from 490K over the objections of the Chief of Staff. Oh, and all that gear we have in Afghanistan? It has to leave either by truck through Pakistan (hardy har har), via very expensive airlift, or via train through Russia (hardy har har har).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense...l-recommends-reducing-army-to-pre-ww2-levels/

FYFMFE (but especially me)
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The army, while not totally irrelevant, is still pretty fucking irrelevant. The Navy and AF are of far more importance, and I bet 99% of the shit the army does can be automated.
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I see I've struck a nerve. I know you're current or former military, so I'll phrase the following nicely.

1) We shouldn't have been in Afghanistan anywhere near as long as we were, or in Iraq at all. The Iraqi military got trampled, yes, but the Taliban and other insurgents cost the US countless needlessly wasted lives, and billions in needlessly wasted cash. It's easy for the US to win a war against an overmatched foe in days; loitering around to get blown up by ied's, carbombs, and rpg's in urban areas is a much messier matter. You can't really "win" against the insurgents in a traditional sense. In order to do that, you have to Nuke the entire country, desert, mountain caves, cities, all of it. As long as Islam exists in its current form, organizations of radicals are going to cause problems and kill people.

2) Now that we've gotten the inefficient clusterfuck that was the Afghan occupation/Iraq war out of the way, let's discuss the significance of the army. The army is important, don't get me wrong. The US army and marines fucked up Saddam's Royal Guard in 2 battles with minimal causalities. You can't have a supply chain in hostile territory without the army. I get that.

The Navy and AF are just more important in the postmodern world, especially for America. America rules the world in a form of modern hegemony tied to its currency and military. In order for any aggressor to even reach American soil, it has to defeat both the US Navy and AirForce. The US Navy is bigger than the rest of the world's combined, and the AirForce is 10 years more advanced than its closest rivals.

"The only currently combat-ready fifth-generation fighter, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, entered service with the U.S. Air Force in 2005.[2][3][4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor

Whenever America is gong to wage war on an enemy, it's naturally going to send the Navy and AirForce in first. The US planes alone will simultaneously sink the enemies navy/bomb the enemy country into submission/strategically strike enemy bases/defeat the enemy AirForce. Only once all that has been done, will the truly badass footsoldiers in the Special Forces/Marines come into combat, followed by the army and armored brigades. And even that is changing with the use of drones and automation in warfare...why risk American lives if robotic weaponry can accomplish the task? Soldiers are expensive to train and maintain; in the long run, a $10,000 drone strike on a fortified location is better than sending a marine squadron in worth millions in invested dollars. Granted, drones and automation don't always make things better and more efficient, but it's still only 2014. Things are only going to accelerate in that direction, by 2050 the US military will be unrecognizable compared to its current form.

Also, the Army's traditional logistical tasks are being given to PMC's.

TL, DR the Army is important, but significantly less so than the Navy and AirForce, and the gap is widening. That said, if hostile aliens invade and wipe the floor with the AirForce, it doesn't hurt to have a strong ground force...
 
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This has to be a contender for "stupidest fucking comment ever made on this website." Way stupider than anything I ever said about grunge music.

PGOS - please to be explaining how the Navy and the AF were able to combat the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how the Navy and the AF provide a land-based deterrent in Korea. For that matter, what happens to the AF and the Navy when the Army goes away? Here's a clue: the Army provides logistical support to all services in deployed environments. The Army provides the water purification specialists and the cooks and the doctors and the medics (except for Marine corpsmen). But you can automate that shit, right?

Real_God knows that all those private contractors Rumsfeld hired worked out great, you know, on time and below budget and all that shit, right? Oh, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED? Never mind.

Fact: At the end of the day, wars are won by boots on the ground. The Air Force is dominated by flyboys that want to be Top Gun, and the Navy clings to a belief that expensive carrier fleets are viable when ballistic missiles are cheap and so are the submarines that fire them.

Now, if you were just saying this to troll me - I compliment you.

Probably going unnoticed by Putin is the SECDEF calling for the Army to reduce end-strength to 420K from 490K over the objections of the Chief of Staff. Oh, and all that gear we have in Afghanistan? It has to leave either by truck through Pakistan (hardy har har), via very expensive airlift, or via train through Russia (hardy har har har).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense...l-recommends-reducing-army-to-pre-ww2-levels/

FYFMFE (but especially me)
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The army, while not totally irrelevant, is still pretty fucking irrelevant. The Navy and AF are of far more importance, and I bet 99% of the shit the army does can be automated.
Click to expand...
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I see I've struck a nerve. I know you're current or former military, so I'll phrase the following nicely.

1) We shouldn't have been in Afghanistan anywhere near as long as we were, or in Iraq at all. The Iraqi military got trampled, yes, but the Taliban and other insurgents cost the US countless needlessly wasted lives, and billions in needlessly wasted cash. It's easy for the US to win a war in an overmatched foe in days; loitering around to get blown up by ied's, carbombs, and rpg's in urban areas is a much messier matter. You can't really "win" against the insurgents in a traditional sense. In order to do that, you have to Nuke the entire country, desert, mountain caves, cities, all of it. As long as Islam exists in its current form, organizations of radicals are going to cause problems and kill people.

2) Now that we've gotten the inefficient clusterfuck that was the Afghan occupation/Iraq war out of the way, let's discuss the significance of the army. The army is important, don't get me wrong. The US army and marines fucked up Saddam's Royal Guard in 2 battles with minimal causalities. You can't have a supply chain in hostile territory without the army. I get that.

The Navy and AF are just more important in the postmodern world, especially for America. America rules the world in a form of modern hegemony tied to its currency and military. In order for any aggressor to even reach American soil, it has to defeat both the US Navy and AirForce. The US Navy is bigger than the rest of the world's combined, and the AirForce is 10 years more advanced than its closest rivals.

"The only currently combat-ready fifth-generation fighter, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, entered service with the U.S. Air Force in 2005.[2][3][4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor

Whenever America is gong to wage war on an enemy, it's naturally going to send the Navy and AirForce in first. The US planes alone will simultaneously sink the enemies navy/bomb the enemy country into submission/strategically strike enemy bases/defeat the enemy AirForce. Only once all that has been done, will the truly badass footsoldiers in the Special Forces/Marines come into combat, followed by the army and armored brigades. And even that is changing with the use of drones and automation in warfare...why risk American lives if robotic weaponry can accomplish the task? Soldiers are expensive to train and maintain; in the long run, a $10,000 drone strike on a fortified location is better than sending a marine squadron in worth millions in invested dollars.

TL, DR the Army is important, but significantly less so than the Navy and AirForce, and the gap is widening. That said, if hostile aliens invade and wipe the floor with the AirForce, it doesn't hurt to have a strong ground force...
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Disagree except for the bolded part.
 
This has to be a contender for "stupidest fucking comment ever made on this website." Way stupider than anything I ever said about grunge music.

PGOS - please to be explaining how the Navy and the AF were able to combat the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how the Navy and the AF provide a land-based deterrent in Korea. For that matter, what happens to the AF and the Navy when the Army goes away? Here's a clue: the Army provides logistical support to all services in deployed environments. The Army provides the water purification specialists and the cooks and the doctors and the medics (except for Marine corpsmen). But you can automate that shit, right?

Real_God knows that all those private contractors Rumsfeld hired worked out great, you know, on time and below budget and all that shit, right? Oh, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED? Never mind.

Fact: At the end of the day, wars are won by boots on the ground. The Air Force is dominated by flyboys that want to be Top Gun, and the Navy clings to a belief that expensive carrier fleets are viable when ballistic missiles are cheap and so are the submarines that fire them.

Now, if you were just saying this to troll me - I compliment you.

Probably going unnoticed by Putin is the SECDEF calling for the Army to reduce end-strength to 420K from 490K over the objections of the Chief of Staff. Oh, and all that gear we have in Afghanistan? It has to leave either by truck through Pakistan (hardy har har), via very expensive airlift, or via train through Russia (hardy har har har).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense...l-recommends-reducing-army-to-pre-ww2-levels/

FYFMFE (but especially me)
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The army, while not totally irrelevant, is still pretty fucking irrelevant. The Navy and AF are of far more importance, and I bet 99% of the shit the army does can be automated.
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I see I've struck a nerve. I know you're current or former military, so I'll phrase the following nicely.

1) We shouldn't have been in Afghanistan anywhere near as long as we were, or in Iraq at all. The Iraqi military got trampled, yes, but the Taliban and other insurgents cost the US countless needlessly wasted lives, and billions in needlessly wasted cash. It's easy for the US to win a war in an overmatched foe in days; loitering around to get blown up by ied's, carbombs, and rpg's in urban areas is a much messier matter. You can't really "win" against the insurgents in a traditional sense. In order to do that, you have to Nuke the entire country, desert, mountain caves, cities, all of it. As long as Islam exists in its current form, organizations of radicals are going to cause problems and kill people.

2) Now that we've gotten the inefficient clusterfuck that was the Afghan occupation/Iraq war out of the way, let's discuss the significance of the army. The army is important, don't get me wrong. The US army and marines fucked up Saddam's Royal Guard in 2 battles with minimal causalities. You can't have a supply chain in hostile territory without the army. I get that.

The Navy and AF are just more important in the postmodern world, especially for America. America rules the world in a form of modern hegemony tied to its currency and military. In order for any aggressor to even reach American soil, it has to defeat both the US Navy and AirForce. The US Navy is bigger than the rest of the world's combined, and the AirForce is 10 years more advanced than its closest rivals.

"The only currently combat-ready fifth-generation fighter, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, entered service with the U.S. Air Force in 2005.[2][3][4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor

Whenever America is gong to wage war on an enemy, it's naturally going to send the Navy and AirForce in first. The US planes alone will simultaneously sink the enemies navy/bomb the enemy country into submission/strategically strike enemy bases/defeat the enemy AirForce. Only once all that has been done, will the truly badass footsoldiers in the Special Forces/Marines come into combat, followed by the army and armored brigades. And even that is changing with the use of drones and automation in warfare...why risk American lives if robotic weaponry can accomplish the task? Soldiers are expensive to train and maintain; in the long run, a $10,000 drone strike on a fortified location is better than sending a marine squadron in worth millions in invested dollars.

TL, DR the Army is important, but significantly less so than the Navy and AirForce, and the gap is widening. That said, if hostile aliens invade and wipe the floor with the AirForce, it doesn't hurt to have a strong ground force...
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Disagree except for the bolded part.
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I'll quote CollegeDoog on this one:

You're a fucking simpleton, Sven.
 
This has to be a contender for "stupidest fucking comment ever made on this website." Way stupider than anything I ever said about grunge music.

PGOS - please to be explaining how the Navy and the AF were able to combat the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how the Navy and the AF provide a land-based deterrent in Korea. For that matter, what happens to the AF and the Navy when the Army goes away? Here's a clue: the Army provides logistical support to all services in deployed environments. The Army provides the water purification specialists and the cooks and the doctors and the medics (except for Marine corpsmen). But you can automate that shit, right?

Real_God knows that all those private contractors Rumsfeld hired worked out great, you know, on time and below budget and all that shit, right? Oh, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED? Never mind.

Fact: At the end of the day, wars are won by boots on the ground. The Air Force is dominated by flyboys that want to be Top Gun, and the Navy clings to a belief that expensive carrier fleets are viable when ballistic missiles are cheap and so are the submarines that fire them.

Now, if you were just saying this to troll me - I compliment you.

Probably going unnoticed by Putin is the SECDEF calling for the Army to reduce end-strength to 420K from 490K over the objections of the Chief of Staff. Oh, and all that gear we have in Afghanistan? It has to leave either by truck through Pakistan (hardy har har), via very expensive airlift, or via train through Russia (hardy har har har).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense...l-recommends-reducing-army-to-pre-ww2-levels/

FYFMFE (but especially me)
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The army, while not totally irrelevant, is still pretty fucking irrelevant. The Navy and AF are of far more importance, and I bet 99% of the shit the army does can be automated.
Click to expand...
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I see I've struck a nerve. I know you're current or former military, so I'll phrase the following nicely.

1) We shouldn't have been in Afghanistan anywhere near as long as we were, or in Iraq at all. The Iraqi military got trampled, yes, but the Taliban and other insurgents cost the US countless needlessly wasted lives, and billions in needlessly wasted cash. It's easy for the US to win a war in an overmatched foe in days; loitering around to get blown up by ied's, carbombs, and rpg's in urban areas is a much messier matter. You can't really "win" against the insurgents in a traditional sense. In order to do that, you have to Nuke the entire country, desert, mountain caves, cities, all of it. As long as Islam exists in its current form, organizations of radicals are going to cause problems and kill people.

2) Now that we've gotten the inefficient clusterfuck that was the Afghan occupation/Iraq war out of the way, let's discuss the significance of the army. The army is important, don't get me wrong. The US army and marines fucked up Saddam's Royal Guard in 2 battles with minimal causalities. You can't have a supply chain in hostile territory without the army. I get that.

The Navy and AF are just more important in the postmodern world, especially for America. America rules the world in a form of modern hegemony tied to its currency and military. In order for any aggressor to even reach American soil, it has to defeat both the US Navy and AirForce. The US Navy is bigger than the rest of the world's combined, and the AirForce is 10 years more advanced than its closest rivals.

"The only currently combat-ready fifth-generation fighter, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, entered service with the U.S. Air Force in 2005.[2][3][4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor

Whenever America is gong to wage war on an enemy, it's naturally going to send the Navy and AirForce in first. The US planes alone will simultaneously sink the enemies navy/bomb the enemy country into submission/strategically strike enemy bases/defeat the enemy AirForce. Only once all that has been done, will the truly badass footsoldiers in the Special Forces/Marines come into combat, followed by the army and armored brigades. And even that is changing with the use of drones and automation in warfare...why risk American lives if robotic weaponry can accomplish the task? Soldiers are expensive to train and maintain; in the long run, a $10,000 drone strike on a fortified location is better than sending a marine squadron in worth millions in invested dollars.

TL, DR the Army is important, but significantly less so than the Navy and AirForce, and the gap is widening. That said, if hostile aliens invade and wipe the floor with the AirForce, it doesn't hurt to have a strong ground force...
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Disagree except for the bolded part.
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I'll quote CollegeDoog on this one:

You're a fucking simpleton, Sven.
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Even Tequilla thinks you need to get to the fucking point faster.

By the way, I agree with your actual point.
 
This has to be a contender for "stupidest fucking comment ever made on this website." Way stupider than anything I ever said about grunge music.

PGOS - please to be explaining how the Navy and the AF were able to combat the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how the Navy and the AF provide a land-based deterrent in Korea. For that matter, what happens to the AF and the Navy when the Army goes away? Here's a clue: the Army provides logistical support to all services in deployed environments. The Army provides the water purification specialists and the cooks and the doctors and the medics (except for Marine corpsmen). But you can automate that shit, right?

Real_God knows that all those private contractors Rumsfeld hired worked out great, you know, on time and below budget and all that shit, right? Oh, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED? Never mind.

Fact: At the end of the day, wars are won by boots on the ground. The Air Force is dominated by flyboys that want to be Top Gun, and the Navy clings to a belief that expensive carrier fleets are viable when ballistic missiles are cheap and so are the submarines that fire them.

Now, if you were just saying this to troll me - I compliment you.

Probably going unnoticed by Putin is the SECDEF calling for the Army to reduce end-strength to 420K from 490K over the objections of the Chief of Staff. Oh, and all that gear we have in Afghanistan? It has to leave either by truck through Pakistan (hardy har har), via very expensive airlift, or via train through Russia (hardy har har har).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense...l-recommends-reducing-army-to-pre-ww2-levels/

FYFMFE (but especially me)
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The army, while not totally irrelevant, is still pretty fucking irrelevant. The Navy and AF are of far more importance, and I bet 99% of the shit the army does can be automated.
Click to expand...
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I see I've struck a nerve. I know you're current or former military, so I'll phrase the following nicely.

1) We shouldn't have been in Afghanistan anywhere near as long as we were, or in Iraq at all. The Iraqi military got trampled, yes, but the Taliban and other insurgents cost the US countless needlessly wasted lives, and billions in needlessly wasted cash. It's easy for the US to win a war in an overmatched foe in days; loitering around to get blown up by ied's, carbombs, and rpg's in urban areas is a much messier matter. You can't really "win" against the insurgents in a traditional sense. In order to do that, you have to Nuke the entire country, desert, mountain caves, cities, all of it. As long as Islam exists in its current form, organizations of radicals are going to cause problems and kill people.

2) Now that we've gotten the inefficient clusterfuck that was the Afghan occupation/Iraq war out of the way, let's discuss the significance of the army. The army is important, don't get me wrong. The US army and marines fucked up Saddam's Royal Guard in 2 battles with minimal causalities. You can't have a supply chain in hostile territory without the army. I get that.

The Navy and AF are just more important in the postmodern world, especially for America. America rules the world in a form of modern hegemony tied to its currency and military. In order for any aggressor to even reach American soil, it has to defeat both the US Navy and AirForce. The US Navy is bigger than the rest of the world's combined, and the AirForce is 10 years more advanced than its closest rivals.

"The only currently combat-ready fifth-generation fighter, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, entered service with the U.S. Air Force in 2005.[2][3][4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor

Whenever America is gong to wage war on an enemy, it's naturally going to send the Navy and AirForce in first. The US planes alone will simultaneously sink the enemies navy/bomb the enemy country into submission/strategically strike enemy bases/defeat the enemy AirForce. Only once all that has been done, will the truly badass footsoldiers in the Special Forces/Marines come into combat, followed by the army and armored brigades. And even that is changing with the use of drones and automation in warfare...why risk American lives if robotic weaponry can accomplish the task? Soldiers are expensive to train and maintain; in the long run, a $10,000 drone strike on a fortified location is better than sending a marine squadron in worth millions in invested dollars.

TL, DR the Army is important, but significantly less so than the Navy and AirForce, and the gap is widening. That said, if hostile aliens invade and wipe the floor with the AirForce, it doesn't hurt to have a strong ground force...
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Disagree except for the bolded part.
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I'll quote CollegeDoog on this one:

You're a fucking simpleton, Sven.
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Even Tequilla thinks you need to get to the fucking point faster.

By the way, I agree with your actual point.
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Valid. In my defense, that was probably the longest post I've made on here.

That's an intro paragraph for Tequilla.
 
The F-22 is a piece of shit.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...ses-79-billion-advantage-in-dogfights-report/

The best air superiority platform in the world is the F-16.
http://www.nae.edu/Publications/Bri...nologyandtheF-16FightingFalconJetFighter.aspx

The best ground support platform in the world is the A-10.
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine....WarthoginAirForceInventoryReachesEndGame.aspx

The fucking zoomies want to ground them both.
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/140574/robert-farley/ground-the-air-force

The Navy still can't answer the question of how does a carrier task force meet a ballistic missile attack:
http://www.johntreed.com/sittingducks.html
http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/surface-combat-fleets-obsolete/

 
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