There's a few non super bowl winning QB in Canton.
Foutsy, for instance, was a 6 time pro bowler. Wilson is a 9 time pro bowler which is as many at Marino and Franny each had.
My money is still on Rusty ending up in the HOF.
Russ to Denver
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There's a few non super bowl winning QB in Canton.
Foutsy, for instance, was a 6 time pro bowler. Wilson is a 9 time pro bowler which is as many at Marino and Franny each had.
My money is still on Rusty ending up in the HOF.
My dog made the Pro Bowl one year when all the other dogs declined
You don't have to win a Super Bowl but as I pointed out winning 2 isn't a guarantee
Fran retired with all the records and Marino broke them all again
Russ isn't done but he's not in yet
It's not the hall of pretty good as the kids say
You don't have to win a Super Bowl but as I pointed out winning 2 isn't a guarantee
Fran retired with all the records and Marino broke them all again
Russ isn't done but he's not in yet
It's not the hall of pretty good as the kids say
Rusty also has a higher career passer rating than either Peyton Manning or Brees.
He seems to be doing pretty well in stats are for losers and has a ring.
I can't recall a similar body of work that didn't get in.
Jim Plunkett
2 rings
2 rings
I sense he might be cunty even if they go 14-2. Oops, excuse me, 14-3
Link?
I would have bet $5,000 Jim Plunkett was in the HOF
I loved it on Monday Night Football when Dennis Miller turned to him and said, "What's with the beard, Grizzly Fouts?"
Regarding Watson... If the Seahawk felt okay bringing Frank Clark here, they'll be okay bringing Watson here.
So I conferred yesterday with all of my college football hating, NFL loving douche canoe buddies and they all stated that Rusty is a lock for Canton.
Too bad old fucks like me do the voting
CuntWaffle
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The argument how good Russell is is pointless. It should be about whether or not the Seahawks could win a Super Bowl with him right now and they can't, not with their limited draft capital and salary cap. Every year they go into the off season with these grand plans to rebuild the O Line and defense and end up signing a few journeymen who are average at best and nothing significant changes. Same shit would have happened this year. So do you want 1-2 more years of mediocre football? Or tear it down and start the rebuild.
I am not fully aware of the Broncos roster but I assume they have a lot of young talent on small contracts and can afford Russells deal/future deal. I know they have a great stable of WRs but thats about it. Russ could do really well in Denver, doesn't mean what Seattle did was a bad deal.
I am not fully aware of the Broncos roster but I assume they have a lot of young talent on small contracts and can afford Russells deal/future deal. I know they have a great stable of WRs but thats about it. Russ could do really well in Denver, doesn't mean what Seattle did was a bad deal.
creepycoug
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I agree, I think he gets in. I think Fouts and Marino were other-level guys and, at QB, you need that if you don't have a SB. Elway would have made the HOF w/o the Supers at the end of his career, where he was doing less and letting his teammates do more.
I don't think that Russ as a passer was on Marino's or Fouts' level. Those two guys had defense problems, and one of them had a running game problem and an average receivers problem to go with it. They were just fucking brilliant on their own and everybody understood why they didn't have rings. You take away Russ' ring, and I wonder how the conversation goes. I also wonder if he loses one or two of those pro bowl votes.
He was obviously a very good QB and probably makes the HOF. In today's game, his skin tone doesn't hurt his chances either. Let's just be honest about that. The NFL is still on the ropes relatively to minority hiring at the coach level, and everyone knows they had a race problem at QB for much of the league's history. They feel badly about that now.
But when you get to 9 pro bowls, you're very good, no doubt, although Pro Bowls can be a momentum thing and a popularity contest too. Said another way, when big names have good seasons, they get voted in while no names don't tend to get that benefit of the doubt.
You add All Pro and All Decade and league MVPs and now you're talking about a fucking elite player.
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If I had to bet I'd bet he gets in despite taking the contrarian view
I'm not 100 percent sold on Two Ring Manning the Younger either but his two rings came with memorable plays.
Once again Russ' getting the second ring brings the last minute drive and Kearse catch into legend status and its no question
Russ is better than Dilfer and healthier than McMahon - the three greatest defenses to win the Super Bowl. The second one would have been more Russ than the D that folded to Brady
Russ also has a lot of years left if healthy
I'm not 100 percent sold on Two Ring Manning the Younger either but his two rings came with memorable plays.
Once again Russ' getting the second ring brings the last minute drive and Kearse catch into legend status and its no question
Russ is better than Dilfer and healthier than McMahon - the three greatest defenses to win the Super Bowl. The second one would have been more Russ than the D that folded to Brady
Russ also has a lot of years left if healthy
I'm taking baby steps towards more NFL hawt talk since I'm quitting on the college game.
Other teams don’t want that contract. He will never live up to it, but they have to find a way to make him a productive player. We are stuck with him. He’s a fine player in the right spot but you gotta be able to cover
Some of the RW hate is ridiculous. To not like him is fine. He has some personality flaws, but the guy is and has been a very good QB for a long time.
Surprised you're surprised