backthepack
New Fish
He had the 2 best runs of the night.
Running Backs Suck
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He had the 2 best runs of the night.
RedRocket
New Fish
Maybe the weight Pleasent has added has helped with blocking but he still runs like he's 205. Still too soft. He got easily dropped by a 190 lb DB yesterday on a play where he had him in insolation. His best play on the year is a spin move out of a tackle. I'm struggling to think of an example where he's really trucked anyone.
Ty >>>> Sark.
backthepack
New Fish
He had like 4 carries?
WillyRBeek
New Fish
I wouldn't really say the running backs "Suck", but there definitely isn't that one guy who can be counted on to do it all. The bigger problem I see is the play calling, especially early on in games.
Teams have learned that we want to establish the run game early so they're loading up the box and daring them to run, and instead of adjusting and being aggressive and attacking them downfield when they do this, they just line up and run straight into an 8 man front over and over again for an entire half.
That's not to say they aren't making adjustments on offense, but those adjustments are happening too late. Donovan seems to be content to wait till the 2nd half to open up the offense, and that almost came back to bite them last week, and this week it did.
Teams have learned that we want to establish the run game early so they're loading up the box and daring them to run, and instead of adjusting and being aggressive and attacking them downfield when they do this, they just line up and run straight into an 8 man front over and over again for an entire half.
That's not to say they aren't making adjustments on offense, but those adjustments are happening too late. Donovan seems to be content to wait till the 2nd half to open up the offense, and that almost came back to bite them last week, and this week it did.
He always ran without power. It has nothing to do with weight. He had a great run against Arizona too, but he’s horrible in traffic.
Kingdome_Urinals
New Fish
Neither McGrew or Pleasant, or Newton for that matter, can shed a defender, break a tackle or make something happen that is not provided for them by the Oline. Those are things really good RBs must do.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
Within the context of what UW is trying to do, they pretty much suck. I don't take pleasure in saying that.
Here are the Pac teams with better RBs getting volume carries. ASU, UCLA, Oregon St., Utah (that freshman), USC (Carr), Stanford (Jones).
That's half the Pac-12 with more talented lead runners. UW should never be in that position.
Especially not when trying to form a program "identity" around running the ball.
Wayyy too much attention on the RBs.
Yes Mcgrew is the best back overall and he is average at best. Probably 90% of what you'd like out of a RB1.
People have mentioned there are no broken tackles or misses made but thats not something they've had the opportunity to do.
The Oline has made very few holes.
The Oline has made very holes because of the scheming.
If we take the 4 fattest dudes from this site and tell them to stay tight in the middle and not get pushed backwards they could probably do that relatively[/i] well. Its thinking and moving for every other situation that makes it exponentially more difficult. The other teams are basically taking the inside run away without worrying about anything else.
Play calling is screwing the oline and the oline is screwing the rbs
Yes Mcgrew is the best back overall and he is average at best. Probably 90% of what you'd like out of a RB1.
People have mentioned there are no broken tackles or misses made but thats not something they've had the opportunity to do.
The Oline has made very few holes.
The Oline has made very holes because of the scheming.
If we take the 4 fattest dudes from this site and tell them to stay tight in the middle and not get pushed backwards they could probably do that relatively[/i] well. Its thinking and moving for every other situation that makes it exponentially more difficult. The other teams are basically taking the inside run away without worrying about anything else.
Play calling is screwing the oline and the oline is screwing the rbs
Why don't you just come out and say me and 3 other fatties?
BeerThirty
New Fish
I was wondering the same thing. The guy hasn't had the opportunity to really show his stuff. I do think he'll be good but so many posters already think he is the second coming.
BeerThirty
New Fish
Not saying much
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.
TBS overrated RB’s based on high school and camps. For some reason, shitty teams often still have good RB’s it seems.
I would say Davis has shown some ability and hasn’t gotten a full chance. It is mostly hype, but the guys in front are lacking production and Davis has at least one run every game where it leaves us wanting more.
I can’t stand Pleasant in short yardage. I don’t care that he’s big. He sucks at it.
Kingdome_Urinals
New Fish
Newton and Pleasant, even McGrew are not TBS favorites. Only Cam Davis is, and for good reason frankly, he's made some great catches and has the best all around physical and skill-set. If you can't see it, you can't see it. That's fine.
These RBs do, basically, suck. Of course OL play is bad but two things can be bad at once, and often are.
CFB is a game where above average backs have plenty of opportunity to create for themselves. As you said even shitty teams have good backs.
UW doesn't really have good backs.
AtomicDawg
New Fish
Davis has shown some burst and can finish some runs. I see something there. Not sure he will be great but could be good.
Biggest issue is we invite everyone into the box, AND they know what we are going to do. They don’t fear big plays from bunch formation in the passing game.
Hard for the offensive line to overcome that. If they were great maybe they would, but they’re not.
To be a running team doesn’t mean you have to invite everyone into the box and still run it. But we insist on trying to prove we can. Vs zona and the beavs sure. Vs any defensive line with any bit of athleticism it is not going to happen at all.
Biggest issue is we invite everyone into the box, AND they know what we are going to do. They don’t fear big plays from bunch formation in the passing game.
Hard for the offensive line to overcome that. If they were great maybe they would, but they’re not.
To be a running team doesn’t mean you have to invite everyone into the box and still run it. But we insist on trying to prove we can. Vs zona and the beavs sure. Vs any defensive line with any bit of athleticism it is not going to happen at all.