Roger Rosengarten, 2020 4* OL, Littleton (Valor Christian), CO (COMMITTED)

[Swaye]

So because Hatchett has dropped to 200 in the rankings he's no longer considered elite?

If you're saying he isn't that good you're implying he has a bunch of uncommittable offers (which I guess could be true).

Because his offer sheet is fucking elite and Oklahoma really seems to want him

He's fucking awesome. I happen to like RR a touch more, but it's by a shade. If we get him, to go with RR and the Viking, we are walking in tall cotton.

 

[Gladstone]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

Stanford should kick him out of school because clearly, since he made that choice, he's not smart enough for Stanford.

 

[dnc]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

 

[Doogles]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

Yeah this makes zero sense. Stanford churns out All American OL that get drafted high better than anyone.

If Fozzy is a miss there he's probably a miss here too.

 

[DawgFader]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

Yeah this makes zero sense. Stanford churns out All American OL that get drafted high better than anyone.

If Fozzy is a miss there he's probably a miss here too.

Benji Olson till recently?

 

[TacoSoup]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

Yeah this makes zero sense. Stanford churns out All American OL that get drafted high better than anyone.

If Fozzy is a miss there he's probably a miss here too.

Furd hasn't had an OL selected in the last 3 drafts.

Losing Bloomgren didn't help but they're in a funk, especially by their standards

 

[bananasnblondes]

This. Whoever their new ol coach is, he sucks. Walker Little looks like crap as well.

 

[animate]

Perhaps many people have/are underrating bloomgren's ability to develop offensive line talent? And push the running game? Stanford hasn't been Stanford lately.

I guess we will continue to see the after effects as he's been gone a year already ...

As for fozzy, I don't agree that if he "sucked at Stanford he would have sucked here too" assertion.

I think Walker Little is a top end talent that even with average development will be drafted high barring any major injuries.

But after him and fozzy and post bloomgren who has Stanford recruited on the offensive line?

 

[TacoSoup]

Perhaps many people have/are underrating bloomgren's ability to develop offensive line talent? And push the running game? Stanford hasn't been Stanford lately.

I guess we will continue to see the after effects as he's been gone a year already ...

As for fozzy, I don't agree that if he "sucked at Stanford he would have sucked here too" assertion.

I think Walker Little is a top end talent that even with average development will be drafted high barring any major injuries.

But after him and fozzy and post bloomgren who has Stanford recruited on the offensive line?

1) Their OL coach is a NFL dude. Mentored by Bill Callahan.

2) Last year they basically went full spread-ISO (which is pretty cutting edge)... is that cause Shaw's hand was forced or were the Furd early on this strategy?

3) They somehow signed only ONE offensive linemen in 2018. Crazy. 2020 they've already secured a commit from 5-star Myles Hinton.

 

[animate]

Perhaps many people have/are underrating bloomgren's ability to develop offensive line talent? And push the running game? Stanford hasn't been Stanford lately.

I guess we will continue to see the after effects as he's been gone a year already ...

As for fozzy, I don't agree that if he "sucked at Stanford he would have sucked here too" assertion.

I think Walker Little is a top end talent that even with average development will be drafted high barring any major injuries.

But after him and fozzy and post bloomgren who has Stanford recruited on the offensive line?

1) Their OL coach is a NFL dude. Mentored by Bill Callahan.

2) Last year they basically went full spread-ISO (which is pretty cutting edge)... is that cause Shaw's hand was forced or were the Furd early on this strategy?

3) They somehow signed only ONE offensive linemen in 2018. Crazy. 2020 they've already secured a commit from 5-star Myles Hinton.

Good chit.

- guess lipo on their coach
- Bryce love imo was permanently messed up ever since they decided to take the short term gain and long term pain from that game against Washington where he was injured. He miraculously "recovered" after spending time with the team drs and getting under the table shots ... and proceeded to continue to make the difference. I knew right there this was it, a senior season is up in the air and I was right. He should have sat out and become a first rounder instead of a 4th. I don't think he will do well in the NFL as he's damaged and the ceiling has been reduced
- question is last year's team underperformed compared to recent Stanford success because of a lack of competent rb room or because of a lack of effectiveness due to bloomgren leaving or a little of both?
- Hinton committing is interesting because ... we'll see, we'll see.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Perhaps many people have/are underrating bloomgren's ability to develop offensive line talent? And push the running game? Stanford hasn't been Stanford lately.

I guess we will continue to see the after effects as he's been gone a year already ...

As for fozzy, I don't agree that if he "sucked at Stanford he would have sucked here too" assertion.

I think Walker Little is a top end talent that even with average development will be drafted high barring any major injuries.

But after him and fozzy and post bloomgren who has Stanford recruited on the offensive line?

Fozzy been injured so who knows?

Could have gotten injured here. Could have not.

Could have been good without getting injured. Could have been a bust without getting injured.

He still has tim to still blow up and have a great season as well.

 

[Gladstone]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

Others beat me to it but they are not the same Stanford of old. At least not on the offensive line. He certainly would have played as a freshman here because of depth concerns, and I really like what Huff has done with Kirkland and Hilbers. I stand by what I said you bastard.

 

[dnc]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

Others beat me to it but they are not the same Stanford of old. At least not on the offensive line. He certainly would have played as a freshman here because of depth concerns, and I really like what Huff has done with Kirkland and Hilbers. I stand by what I said you bastard.

I didn’t realize they lost their old OL coach. Point rescinded.

 

[GrundleStiltzkin]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

Others beat me to it but they are not the same Stanford of old. At least not on the offensive line. He certainly would have played as a freshman here because of depth concerns, and I really like what Huff has done with Kirkland and Hilbers. I stand by what I said you bastard.

I didn’t realize they lost their old OL coach. Point rescinded.

You even TSIO bruh?

 

[dnc]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

Others beat me to it but they are not the same Stanford of old. At least not on the offensive line. He certainly would have played as a freshman here because of depth concerns, and I really like what Huff has done with Kirkland and Hilbers. I stand by what I said you bastard.

I didn’t realize they lost their old OL coach. Point rescinded.

You even TSIO bruh?

If I can’t read about it on BDTW.com it didn’t happen

 

[Gladstone]

Bloomgren was a huge, huge loss for them. They also fired their director of sports performance this offseason, which will be an even bigger blow as he was probably the best in all of the NCAA. Harbaugh offered to double his salary and really tried to get him to Michigan but could not. He's also shady as fuck and definitely had those Stanford teams super roided out.

Further reading,https://www.stanforddaily.com/2019/04/17/stanford-fires-award-winning-sports-performance-director/

 

[GrundleStiltzkin]

With Hatchett looking to commit next that gives us 2 of the top 4 OL recruits in the west (by 247 composite not counting Gentry who will take his LDS mission). If we somehow get Murao too that will make 3 of the top 4. This doesn't even account for Memmelaar who will end up very underrated because he committed early and doesn't do camp circuits. What Huff is looking to do in a relatively weak/top heavy OL class is great.

So what should we be expecting from Junior Adams AND Bush Hamadan in the most stacked WR class in a long time where Bush already has his next two QB commits. Jalen, Johnny, and Rome no excuses.

Ps. Gaard is right there with Rosengarten for hands down best OT out west. They’re both what people wish Hatchett was.

Hatchett is meh. I don’t care too much about him. I agree Gaard is better.

Hatchett isn't "meh"! What are you smoking? I'll have what he's having. Dude can literally select whatever school he wants to go to in the entire country and they'd take him in a heart beat and you're calling him "meh"? No offensive lineman that UW is recruiting has better film.

Roaddawg is onto something here. There were a number of games he was pushed around last year. The lake Stevens game he got worked.

LIPO

No one cares. It’s about how he’s going to be in 4 years. Not how he plays now.

HTH

How is Fozzy doing?

He’d be a two year starter and All-American by now if he went to UW.

What a waste.

I like Huff a lot but when did we decide UW develops OL better than Stanford?

Others beat me to it but they are not the same Stanford of old. At least not on the offensive line. He certainly would have played as a freshman here because of depth concerns, and I really like what Huff has done with Kirkland and Hilbers. I stand by what I said you bastard.

I didn’t realize they lost their old OL coach. Point rescinded.

You even TSIO bruh?

If I can’t read about it on BDTW.com it didn’t happen

 

[dnc]

Bloomgren was a huge, huge loss for them. They also fired their director of sports performance this offseason, which will be an even bigger blow as he was probably the best in all of the NCAA. Harbaugh offered to double his salary and really tried to get him to Michigan but could not. He's also shady as fuck and definitely had those Stanford teams super roided out.

Further reading,https://www.stanforddaily.com/2019/04/17/stanford-fires-award-winning-sports-performance-director/

Good chit

TYFYS

Sounds like the University finally caught up with the football team. It was a hell of a run for them.

 

[FremontTroll]

Perhaps many people have/are underrating bloomgren's ability to develop offensive line talent? And push the running game? Stanford hasn't been Stanford lately.

I guess we will continue to see the after effects as he's been gone a year already ...

As for fozzy, I don't agree that if he "sucked at Stanford he would have sucked here too" assertion.

I think Walker Little is a top end talent that even with average development will be drafted high barring any major injuries.

But after him and fozzy and post bloomgren who has Stanford recruited on the offensive line?

Fozzy been injured so who knows?

Could have gotten injured here. Could have not.

Could have been good without getting injured. Could have been a bust without getting injured.

He still has tim to still blow up and have a great season as well.

Yeah, I mean what? Fozzy is a bust now because he played as a true frosh but didn't dominate and then got injured second game of the year as a sophomore?

BTW he is slated to start at RT this year. With Walker Little obviously returning at LT.

So that class of bookends appears to be working out well for them regardless of the decline of the program as a whole.