Rick Neuheisel's recruiting created the foundation for UCLA's success

[DerekJohnson]

latimes.com/sports/ucla/la-sp-ucla-football-leftovers-20140827-story.html

 

[HeretoBeatmyChest]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

 

[RoadDawg55]

I listened to Rick on the Dan Patrick show this morning. They asked him how he felt about UCLA's success since he left and he said he was happy about it, but thought they were on the path to the same success. He revealed the real reason Hundley didn't play as a true freshman was because he was injured for part of the season. He thought things would have been different if he had a QB like Hundley. Mora is a huge upgrade, but I agree. Rick's QB's at UCLA were terrible.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Vanilla double post.

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

81 wins
49 ties
65 losses
71... shoot out losses?

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

 

[HeretoBeatmyChest]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.

Disagree completely on Colorado. UW was a push. UCLA...too lazy to check, but you're probably right.

 

[doogsinparadise]

Rick's seven receiver class says otherwise.

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.

Disagree completely on Colorado. UW was a push. UCLA...too lazy to check, but you're probably right.

 

[Baphomet]

Rick's seven receiver class says otherwise.

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.

Disagree completely on Colorado. UW was a push. UCLA...too lazy to check, but you're probably right.

Kinda sounds like Sark.

But with a Rose Bowl win.

 

[CaptainPJ]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal.

Are you fucking serious? It's a metric UW measures itself by, and Neu was smart enough to get that.

I enjoy New Year's in Pasadena - you clearly have never been.

 

[CaptainPJ]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.

Are you old enough to remember when Neu coached at CU (that's "Colorado").

Pop quiz: who took over when he left?

That proves Boob's point - look it up

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

Kinda sounds like Sark.

But with a Rose Bowl win.

Neu beat Oregon. Nothing else matters.

He was 2-1 against Oregon. Should've been 3-0.

 

[Gladstone]

"He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal."

Whoa there.

 

[dnc]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.

UW's record his last year was better than it's record the year before he arrived. So obviously you're not using last season record to determine "worse by the time he left".

UCLA's record the year after he left was better than it's record the year before he arrived, so obviously you're not using the year after he left record to determine "worse by the time he left".

And if you're saying "the metrics" say his last team at UW was worse than Lambo's last team than "the metrics" you are using are wrong.

 

[PurpleJ]

Comprehensive list of acceptable metrics:

SCOREBOARD BABY!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[doogsinparadise]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.

UW's record his last year was better than it's record the year before he arrived. So obviously you're not using last season record to determine "worse by the time he left".

UCLA's record the year after he left was better than it's record the year before he arrived, so obviously you're not using the year after he left record to determine "worse by the time he left".

And if you're saying "the metrics" say his last team at UW was worse than Lambo's last team than "the metrics" you are using are wrong.

7-6 > 6-6 Is that what you're saying? I'll never understand the Rick defenders around here.

 

[dnc]

The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?

The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.

UW's record his last year was better than it's record the year before he arrived. So obviously you're not using last season record to determine "worse by the time he left".

UCLA's record the year after he left was better than it's record the year before he arrived, so obviously you're not using the year after he left record to determine "worse by the time he left".

And if you're saying "the metrics" say his last team at UW was worse than Lambo's last team than "the metrics" you are using are wrong.

7-6 > 6-6 Is that what you're saying? I'll never understand the Rick defenders around here.

7-6 > 6-6
+56 point differential > -40 point differential
Sun Bowel > Oahu Classic

By any measurement 2002 was a better team than 1998.

More importantly Chest made the claim that everyone of Rick's teams was WORSE than what he took over, which is just not arguable in the case of UW. You could maybe argue it was equally mediocre (though I'd disagree), but there's no argument that it was worse.

 

[doogsinparadise]

Sark is better than Ty, everyone says so.

Rick peaked higher than Lambright, Ty, and Sark for sure, but the trajectory of the program was clearly down when he left. He might not have lost 11 or 12 games, but it's fs to defend such a thoroughly mediocre coach.

 

[dnc]

Sark is better than Ty, everyone says so.

I was countering the claim that UW was worse when RN left than when he came. It wasn't.

hth