Rest of World IS Fucked Up, We Know Best - USA! USA! USA!

[HFNY]

1. So how do you propose we make private insurance and Medicare more efficient?

2. How do we get the 1/3 of Americans who are obese to simply be overweight? Obesity costs the country roughly $200 billion a year.

3. There's no changing the Constitution, will never happen. Frankly I'm glad the Founders realized it was important to give each State 2 Senators as a check on those who preside over Big Government ruling big populations and thus send many Reps to Congress trying to impose their version of utopia on the rest of the country via the Federal Level. California with uber liberal SF and LA, New York with Bill DeBlasio, Illinois with corrupt Chicago and Rahmbo (not as bad as DeBlasio). The Senate is the only thing left keeping Big Government types away from pushing too hard to change our Founding Principles.

4. Do you agree with Obama / Secretaries of Defense reducing military health benefits for family members?

5. Where do you stand on Tort Reform in Health Care? The Economist Mag awhile back said roughly 11% of all medical procedures all unnecessary and solely run to guard against trial lawyers (like John Edwards).

So @AZDuck, what are your solutions considering the USA has an insurance mandate now (ACA)?

1. Lower health care spending by shrinking Medicare / Medicaid as a percentage of Federal Spending and use that money on infrastructure?

2. Instituting a Fat Tax for people on Medicare and Medicaid to make them healthier?

3. Repealing the 2nd Amendment? If not, what do reforms do you propose that would fall within the rights of the 2nd Amendment?

4. Neutral (neither raising or lowering) tax reform should be part of any conversation since tax reform would increase revenues going forward with a simpler code / less distortions.

1. Some variation of single payer. Medicare is actually way more efficient in terms of admin costs than private insurance. If we get similar outcomes to OECD countries (~12% of GDP spending on health) we have plenty for bullet trains and autobahns

2. No.

3. I think regulation and the 2nd amendment can be friends. EDIT: I mentioned some - serious license standards and training, serial number registration in the other thread.

4. I think tax reform would be a great idea, the US taxes at the lower bound of the developed countries (about 28% of GDP if I remember right) but gets very poor results from much of its government spending. I have my own thoughts on that which involve a directorial executive branch like Switzerland and a parliamentary House leaving the Senate as first-past-the-poast, but with allocations to mitigate for population differences among the States. It'll never happen. I'm gonna buy a boat and sail around the world and shit when I'm done playing army.

 

[RaceBannon]

We had the best healthcare system in the world until we tried to fix it. Regan was right.

Now mandatory government healthcare is a way to further control people. What you eat, smoke, or drink. Hey, we have to pay for your choices!!1111. So don't

Fuck off. Live free or visit the death panel

 

[AZDuck]

1. So how do you propose we make private insurance and Medicare more efficient?
- Well, if there was single payer then private health insurance is mostly gone (which is part of why it hasn't happened here) although maybe people will buy supplemental insurance for extras (this is common in France). So I'm more concerned with efficiency in the provision of service.

2. How do we get the 1/3 of Americans who are obese to simply be overweight? Obesity costs the country roughly $200 billion a year.
Well, paying for private health insurance hasn't done anything. Mostly this is a cultural issue, so government is limited in its ability to fix it. Hell, BATTLEFIELD COMMISSION! was pissed about serving little kids vegetables. We could also take a hard look at ag subsidies that promote unhealthy eating by making it cheaper than healthy eating, I suppose

3. There's no changing the Constitution, will never happen. Frankly I'm glad the Founders realized it was important to give each State 2 Senators as a check on those who preside over Big Government ruling big populations and thus send many Reps to Congress trying to impose their version of utopia on the rest of the country via the Federal Level. California with uber liberal SF and LA, New York with Bill DeBlasio, Illinois with corrupt Chicago and Rahmbo (not as bad as DeBlasio). The Senate is the only thing left keeping Big Government types away from pushing too hard to change our Founding Principles.

Yep, that's why I'm getting the boat when I retire. I think that small states have too much power right now, although I don't have a problem with having some check on a more populist House. But I also believe in democracy and "one man, one vote." A vote in Wyoming or Iowa is worth a lot more than one in New York at the Federal level currently, and that isn't right.

4. Do you agree with Obama / Secretaries of Defense reducing military health benefits for family members?

Depends. If we had single payer the DoD wouldn't need to provide health care to dependents in CONUS. Probably still need something in overseas postings. So that wouldn't bother me if there was something to ensure that they had access to decent health care.

5. Where do you stand on Tort Reform in Health Care? The Economist Mag awhile back said roughly 11% of all medical procedures all unnecessary and solely run to guard against trial lawyers (like John Edwards).

I'm actually a huge fan of the civil law model, so I'm pretty much opposed to the adversarial system which gave rise to excessive tort litigation. In a system with a better safety net and universal health care, people who were injured by med-mal and bad corporate actors would still have access to care and recuperation and their damages would be less even in our common-law system, and that's fine by me

So @AZDuck, what are your solutions considering the USA has an insurance mandate now (ACA)?

1. Lower health care spending by shrinking Medicare / Medicaid as a percentage of Federal Spending and use that money on infrastructure?

2. Instituting a Fat Tax for people on Medicare and Medicaid to make them healthier?

3. Repealing the 2nd Amendment? If not, what do reforms do you propose that would fall within the rights of the 2nd Amendment?

4. Neutral (neither raising or lowering) tax reform should be part of any conversation since tax reform would increase revenues going forward with a simpler code / less distortions.

1. Some variation of single payer. Medicare is actually way more efficient in terms of admin costs than private insurance. If we get similar outcomes to OECD countries (~12% of GDP spending on health) we have plenty for bullet trains and autobahns

2. No.

3. I think regulation and the 2nd amendment can be friends. EDIT: I mentioned some - serious license standards and training, serial number registration in the other thread.

4. I think tax reform would be a great idea, the US taxes at the lower bound of the developed countries (about 28% of GDP if I remember right) but gets very poor results from much of its government spending. I have my own thoughts on that which involve a directorial executive branch like Switzerland and a parliamentary House leaving the Senate as first-past-the-poast, but with allocations to mitigate for population differences among the States. It'll never happen. I'm gonna buy a boat and sail around the world and shit when I'm done playing army.

 

[AZDuck]

We had the best healthcare system in the world until we tried to fix it. Regan was right.

Now mandatory government healthcare is a way to further control people. What you eat, smoke, or drink. Hey, we have to pay for your choices!!1111. So don't

Fuck off. Live free or visit the death panel

awesomed because hilarious even if totally wrong

 

[ThomasFremont]

We had the best healthcare system in the world until we tried to fix it. Regan was right.

Now mandatory government healthcare is a way to further control people. What you eat, smoke, or drink. Hey, we have to pay for your choices!!1111. So don't

Fuck off. Live free or visit the death panel

huh?

 

[BallSacked]

I like how when it's something you want a lot of we go by percentages since the US is bigger so percentages make the US look worse by comparison, but when it's something you want few of we go by raw totals since the US is bigger so the totals make the US look worse by comparison.

There are definitely plenty of issues with the US that these numbers sort of illustrate, but the AuburnDawg moving goalpoasts do nothing to add to the credibility of the arguments.

The homicide data rate is per 100K.

HTH

 

[HFNY]

#1 would only work if the Democrats win the Presidency, Senate, AND House. They had the Senate from 2006-2014, have had the presidency from 2008-2016 (really Feb 20, 2009 but who cares), but couldn't take the House.

And would those who want Single Payer be ok with diminished quality? Some single payers have people bring their own food, bedding, and towels while paying for gowns and other things. How about longer wait times? Both are ok with me because I'd get supplemental insurance to avoid both but would that be political fodder for people like John Edwards or does everyone get Cadillac Health Care (and someone else pays for it)?

1. So how do you propose we make private insurance and Medicare more efficient?
- Well, if there was single payer then private health insurance is mostly gone (which is part of why it hasn't happened here) although maybe people will buy supplemental insurance for extras (this is common in France). So I'm more concerned with efficiency in the provision of service.

2. How do we get the 1/3 of Americans who are obese to simply be overweight? Obesity costs the country roughly $200 billion a year.
Well, paying for private health insurance hasn't done anything. Mostly this is a cultural issue, so government is limited in its ability to fix it. Hell, BATTLEFIELD COMMISSION! was pissed about serving little kids vegetables. We could also take a hard look at ag subsidies that promote unhealthy eating by making it cheaper than healthy eating, I suppose

3. There's no changing the Constitution, will never happen. Frankly I'm glad the Founders realized it was important to give each State 2 Senators as a check on those who preside over Big Government ruling big populations and thus send many Reps to Congress trying to impose their version of utopia on the rest of the country via the Federal Level. California with uber liberal SF and LA, New York with Bill DeBlasio, Illinois with corrupt Chicago and Rahmbo (not as bad as DeBlasio). The Senate is the only thing left keeping Big Government types away from pushing too hard to change our Founding Principles.

Yep, that's why I'm getting the boat when I retire. I think that small states have too much power right now, although I don't have a problem with having some check on a more populist House. But I also believe in democracy and "one man, one vote." A vote in Wyoming or Iowa is worth a lot more than one in New York at the Federal level currently, and that isn't right.

4. Do you agree with Obama / Secretaries of Defense reducing military health benefits for family members?

Depends. If we had single payer the DoD wouldn't need to provide health care to dependents in CONUS. Probably still need something in overseas postings. So that wouldn't bother me if there was something to ensure that they had access to decent health care.

5. Where do you stand on Tort Reform in Health Care? The Economist Mag awhile back said roughly 11% of all medical procedures all unnecessary and solely run to guard against trial lawyers (like John Edwards).

I'm actually a huge fan of the civil law model, so I'm pretty much opposed to the adversarial system which gave rise to excessive tort litigation. In a system with a better safety net and universal health care, people who were injured by med-mal and bad corporate actors would still have access to care and recuperation and their damages would be less even in our common-law system, and that's fine by me

So @AZDuck, what are your solutions considering the USA has an insurance mandate now (ACA)?

1. Lower health care spending by shrinking Medicare / Medicaid as a percentage of Federal Spending and use that money on infrastructure?

2. Instituting a Fat Tax for people on Medicare and Medicaid to make them healthier?

3. Repealing the 2nd Amendment? If not, what do reforms do you propose that would fall within the rights of the 2nd Amendment?

4. Neutral (neither raising or lowering) tax reform should be part of any conversation since tax reform would increase revenues going forward with a simpler code / less distortions.

1. Some variation of single payer. Medicare is actually way more efficient in terms of admin costs than private insurance. If we get similar outcomes to OECD countries (~12% of GDP spending on health) we have plenty for bullet trains and autobahns

2. No.

3. I think regulation and the 2nd amendment can be friends. EDIT: I mentioned some - serious license standards and training, serial number registration in the other thread.

4. I think tax reform would be a great idea, the US taxes at the lower bound of the developed countries (about 28% of GDP if I remember right) but gets very poor results from much of its government spending. I have my own thoughts on that which involve a directorial executive branch like Switzerland and a parliamentary House leaving the Senate as first-past-the-poast, but with allocations to mitigate for population differences among the States. It'll never happen. I'm gonna buy a boat and sail around the world and shit when I'm done playing army.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

We had the best healthcare system in the world until we tried to fix it. Regan was right.

Now mandatory government healthcare is a way to further control people. What you eat, smoke, or drink. Hey, we have to pay for your choices!!1111. So don't

Fuck off. Live free or visit the death panel

We have the best doctors, medical technology and facilities, if that's what you mean. Foreigners flock to the US for care.

The system is kind of fucked up.

 

[RaceBannon]

We've always had the best doctors and tech. We used to have the best system. I'm not talking 2007 - it was FUBAR then. Dig deeper

 

[PurpleThrobber]

We've always had the best doctors and tech. We used to have the best system. I'm not talking 2007 - it was FUBAR then. Dig deeper

Didn't we just say the same thing?

Wanna cyber?

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

We had the best healthcare system in the world until we tried to fix it. Regan was right.

Now mandatory government healthcare is a way to further control people. What you eat, smoke, or drink. Hey, we have to pay for your choices!!1111. So don't

Fuck off. Live free or visit the death panel

We need the death panels to get to work. Way too many old people being kept alive longer than necessary.

 

[RaceBannon]

We've always had the best doctors and tech. We used to have the best system. I'm not talking 2007 - it was FUBAR then. Dig deeper

Didn't we just say the same thing?

Wanna cyber?

Only if ballbag makes it a threesome

 

[AZDuck]

#1 would only work if the Democrats win the Presidency, Senate, AND House. They had the Senate from 2006-2014, have had the presidency from 2008-2016 (really Feb 20, 2009 but who cares), but couldn't take the House.

And would those who want Single Payer be ok with diminished quality? Some single payers have people bring their own food, bedding, and towels while paying for gowns and other things. How about longer wait times? Both are ok with me because I'd get supplemental insurance to avoid both but would that be political fodder for people like John Edwards or does everyone get Cadillac Health Care (and someone else pays for it)?

1. So how do you propose we make private insurance and Medicare more efficient?
- Well, if there was single payer then private health insurance is mostly gone (which is part of why it hasn't happened here) although maybe people will buy supplemental insurance for extras (this is common in France). So I'm more concerned with efficiency in the provision of service.

2. How do we get the 1/3 of Americans who are obese to simply be overweight? Obesity costs the country roughly $200 billion a year.
Well, paying for private health insurance hasn't done anything. Mostly this is a cultural issue, so government is limited in its ability to fix it. Hell, BATTLEFIELD COMMISSION! was pissed about serving little kids vegetables. We could also take a hard look at ag subsidies that promote unhealthy eating by making it cheaper than healthy eating, I suppose

3. There's no changing the Constitution, will never happen. Frankly I'm glad the Founders realized it was important to give each State 2 Senators as a check on those who preside over Big Government ruling big populations and thus send many Reps to Congress trying to impose their version of utopia on the rest of the country via the Federal Level. California with uber liberal SF and LA, New York with Bill DeBlasio, Illinois with corrupt Chicago and Rahmbo (not as bad as DeBlasio). The Senate is the only thing left keeping Big Government types away from pushing too hard to change our Founding Principles.

Yep, that's why I'm getting the boat when I retire. I think that small states have too much power right now, although I don't have a problem with having some check on a more populist House. But I also believe in democracy and "one man, one vote." A vote in Wyoming or Iowa is worth a lot more than one in New York at the Federal level currently, and that isn't right.

4. Do you agree with Obama / Secretaries of Defense reducing military health benefits for family members?

Depends. If we had single payer the DoD wouldn't need to provide health care to dependents in CONUS. Probably still need something in overseas postings. So that wouldn't bother me if there was something to ensure that they had access to decent health care.

5. Where do you stand on Tort Reform in Health Care? The Economist Mag awhile back said roughly 11% of all medical procedures all unnecessary and solely run to guard against trial lawyers (like John Edwards).

I'm actually a huge fan of the civil law model, so I'm pretty much opposed to the adversarial system which gave rise to excessive tort litigation. In a system with a better safety net and universal health care, people who were injured by med-mal and bad corporate actors would still have access to care and recuperation and their damages would be less even in our common-law system, and that's fine by me

So @AZDuck, what are your solutions considering the USA has an insurance mandate now (ACA)?

1. Lower health care spending by shrinking Medicare / Medicaid as a percentage of Federal Spending and use that money on infrastructure?

2. Instituting a Fat Tax for people on Medicare and Medicaid to make them healthier?

3. Repealing the 2nd Amendment? If not, what do reforms do you propose that would fall within the rights of the 2nd Amendment?

4. Neutral (neither raising or lowering) tax reform should be part of any conversation since tax reform would increase revenues going forward with a simpler code / less distortions.

1. Some variation of single payer. Medicare is actually way more efficient in terms of admin costs than private insurance. If we get similar outcomes to OECD countries (~12% of GDP spending on health) we have plenty for bullet trains and autobahns

2. No.

3. I think regulation and the 2nd amendment can be friends. EDIT: I mentioned some - serious license standards and training, serial number registration in the other thread.

4. I think tax reform would be a great idea, the US taxes at the lower bound of the developed countries (about 28% of GDP if I remember right) but gets very poor results from much of its government spending. I have my own thoughts on that which involve a directorial executive branch like Switzerland and a parliamentary House leaving the Senate as first-past-the-poast, but with allocations to mitigate for population differences among the States. It'll never happen. I'm gonna buy a boat and sail around the world and shit when I'm done playing army.

I don't disagree.

 

[BallSacked]

We had the best healthcare system in the world until we tried to fix it. Regan was right.

Now mandatory government healthcare is a way to further control people. What you eat, smoke, or drink. Hey, we have to pay for your choices!!1111. So don't

Fuck off. Live free or visit the death panel

We need the death panels to get to work. Way too many old people being kept alive longer than necessary.

Agree. Look at Race Bannon. Dreck.

#oldlivesdontmatter

 

[RaceBannon]

Note to self : whatever you did to piss off ballbag, keep doing it

 

[PurpleJ]

Thanks ballbag

 

[BallSacked]

Note to self : whatever you did to piss off ballbag, keep doing it

Huh?

(Free pub)

 

[HuskyInAZ]

Note to self : whatever you did to piss off ballbag, keep doing it

Huh?

(Free pub)

Downvote a post, then praise the free pub from the same post with a 3 word reply that you had to edit. @Jesus_H_Christ , that is fucked up.

 

[dnc]

I like how when it's something you want a lot of we go by percentages since the US is bigger so percentages make the US look worse by comparison, but when it's something you want few of we go by raw totals since the US is bigger so the totals make the US look worse by comparison.

There are definitely plenty of issues with the US that these numbers sort of illustrate, but the AuburnDawg moving goalpoasts do nothing to add to the credibility of the arguments.

The homicide data rate is per 100K.

HTH

Thanks for stating the obvious, ballbag

 

[AZDuck]

Not sure what Ballbag did to piss everyone off, but am still amused