Resetting expectations

[UDubHusky23]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Recruiting matters ... far more than you often give it credit for.

Are there reasons to believe that development is important ... absolutely.

If you want an area to hold onto for optimism, the 2021 recruiting class is going to be one of the strangest ones on record because of the lack of Spring evaluations, no summer underwear Olympics, and quite possibly not having a high school season. Projections will mean a ton this year.

I think evidence suggests there are fewer programs that develop talent than there are programs that recruit.

The venn diagram of programs that do both successfully is:
Bama
Clemson
tOSU

We all realize it takes a balance of both to win big, but I think you TSIO boys underestimate the difficulty of finding coaches that develop kids.

Development absolutely matters

I’ve long been on record as saying the more you progress in a sport the more development, the mental side, etc becomes important

You also have to have the underlying physical attributes to get in the door though ... all the development, mental, etc is worthless if you physically can’t get the job done

perfect example was Kyler Manu. But bobby greggers was more than happy to trot out there

 

[RoadDawg55]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Recruiting matters ... far more than you often give it credit for.

Are there reasons to believe that development is important ... absolutely.

If you want an area to hold onto for optimism, the 2021 recruiting class is going to be one of the strangest ones on record because of the lack of Spring evaluations, no summer underwear Olympics, and quite possibly not having a high school season. Projections will mean a ton this year.

Recruiting matters but going off recruiting rankings and "stars" alone is not enough. These are often inexact projections of kids from unstandardized measures of recruiting analysts (not coaches) when they're 16 of how they'll be throughout their college career. Recruiting rankings don't adjust as kids workout and devote their time to studying the game in college, and to hold onto ideas of stars after the first 2 years (that Wellington was a 4* and Dissly was a 2*) in college is asinine.

I’ve always been aware that recruiting is extremely important. The problem I’ve always had is that in order to get into the top 5-10 in recruiting, other teams need to drop. I could rattle off 10-15 schools that recruit well every single year.

There are a handful of schools that really are just missing 2-5 bonafied studs. UW is one of those schools. You replace Browning with one of the top QB’s on the country and maybe a true early round NFL OL and we would have really competed for a natty during those seasons, especially 2016.

I also don’t fully buy into the blue chips theory. Every single 4 star recruit is considered a blue chip. There is a big different in getting the #10-15 WR and getting the 50th ranked 4 star WR like Tinae.

 

[DoogCourics]

The kids are at least trying to get the momentum going:
https://twitter.com/SavvySmalls_9/s...-recruiting-Jabez-Tinae-commitment-148872653/
https://twitter.com/samhuard11/stat...-recruiting-Jabez-Tinae-commitment-148872653/
https://twitter.com/therealvilliami...-recruiting-Jabez-Tinae-commitment-148872653/

 

[Woof]

For the record, I think it's clear that this year's staff turnover has lost us substantial recruiting ability, and I'm very skeptical we gained a commensurate amount talent development skills in return. I am on board that we need to upgrade Bob and Bonerpopper's positions with top-tier recruiters (potentially Harris too). I just didn't buy the argument that we were failing when we were pulling in classes that put our blue chip ratio above 50% for the first time ever. Manu wouldn't have gotten a sniff in any of the last 4 classes.

While we could have improved a bit, I think we were relatively close to the peak of our recruiting ability with the '18-'20 classes. Without an amazing crop of in-state talent like this year, ending up somewhere in the 10-15 range is what should be expected on an annual basis. Never below 20 and occasionally top 10 when the stars align.

 

[Tequilla]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Recruiting matters ... far more than you often give it credit for.

Are there reasons to believe that development is important ... absolutely.

If you want an area to hold onto for optimism, the 2021 recruiting class is going to be one of the strangest ones on record because of the lack of Spring evaluations, no summer underwear Olympics, and quite possibly not having a high school season. Projections will mean a ton this year.

I think evidence suggests there are fewer programs that develop talent than there are programs that recruit.

The venn diagram of programs that do both successfully is:
Bama
Clemson
tOSU

We all realize it takes a balance of both to win big, but I think you TSIO boys underestimate the difficulty of finding coaches that develop kids.

Development absolutely matters

I’ve long been on record as saying the more you progress in a sport the more development, the mental side, etc becomes important

You also have to have the underlying physical attributes to get in the door though ... all the development, mental, etc is worthless if you physically can’t get the job done

perfect example was Kyler Manu. But bobby greggers was more than happy to trot out there

And this is Exhibit A of my major concerns with what I’m seeing

 

[DawgFader]

I’m looking for these guys close literally everyone left on the known list and steal a few away.

 

[UDubHusky23]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Recruiting matters ... far more than you often give it credit for.

Are there reasons to believe that development is important ... absolutely.

If you want an area to hold onto for optimism, the 2021 recruiting class is going to be one of the strangest ones on record because of the lack of Spring evaluations, no summer underwear Olympics, and quite possibly not having a high school season. Projections will mean a ton this year.

I think evidence suggests there are fewer programs that develop talent than there are programs that recruit.

The venn diagram of programs that do both successfully is:
Bama
Clemson
tOSU

We all realize it takes a balance of both to win big, but I think you TSIO boys underestimate the difficulty of finding coaches that develop kids.

Development absolutely matters

I’ve long been on record as saying the more you progress in a sport the more development, the mental side, etc becomes important

You also have to have the underlying physical attributes to get in the door though ... all the development, mental, etc is worthless if you physically can’t get the job done

perfect example was Kyler Manu. But bobby greggers was more than happy to trot out there

And this is Exhibit A of my major concerns with what I’m seeing

It’s one thing to develop. But the utter hard headedness and refusal to play anyone other than manu is a huge red flag.

 

[dirtysouwfdawg]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Looking at that second paragraph. Take out the word internet and I feel like you just described David Koresh.

 

[CallMeBigErn]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Looking at that second paragraph. Take out the word internet and I feel like you just described David Koresh.

Whoa.

 

[FireCohen]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Looking at that second paragraph. Take out the word internet and I feel like you just described David Koresh.

Whoa.

Wood

 

[Bonedog]

S

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Looking at that second paragraph. Take out the word internet and I feel like you just described David Koresh.

Whoa.

Wood

Smash

 

[Ice_Holmvik]

S

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Looking at that second paragraph. Take out the word internet and I feel like you just described David Koresh.

Whoa.

Wood

Smash

Feverishly

 

[sinceredawg]

Does anyone know who the lady is? I'd like to stalk her more effectively.

 

[AtomicDawg]

Does anyone know who the lady is? I'd like to stalk her more effectively.

Looks like Hannah from below deck I believe.

 

[animate]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Recruiting matters ... far more than you often give it credit for.

Are there reasons to believe that development is important ... absolutely.

If you want an area to hold onto for optimism, the 2021 recruiting class is going to be one of the strangest ones on record because of the lack of Spring evaluations, no summer underwear Olympics, and quite possibly not having a high school season. Projections will mean a ton this year.

I think evidence suggests there are fewer programs that develop talent than there are programs that recruit.

The venn diagram of programs that do both successfully is:
Bama
Clemson
tOSU

We all realize it takes a balance of both to win big, but I think you TSIO boys underestimate the difficulty of finding coaches that develop kids.

Development absolutely matters

I’ve long been on record as saying the more you progress in a sport the more development, the mental side, etc becomes important

You also have to have the underlying physical attributes to get in the door though ... all the development, mental, etc is worthless if you physically can’t get the job done

people say all kinds of stupid things and trot out virtues that they want to see and normalize.

until there's a fire in the building and you're caught on your balcony facing a 50ft jump onto concrete or death by smoke inhalation and being roasted alive.

you want that 5"3 120lb firefighter who knows exactly what to do but stuggles to drag their equipment across the block? Or do you want to see a bunch of 6'3" 235lb fit guys busting down your door to drag your ass to safety?

the reality is that those guys are smart too and can get the job done ... the other person is just pretend.

 

[dtd]

That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.

Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.

OKG is racist! It keeps us from landing good recruits, we need a younger, cooler coach.

By far the dumbest narrative that was ever peddled on this site... went hand in hand with classifying black players into different categories (we were recruiting the wrong classification of black person)

This site is great for critiques on UW football and life in general, but many of the best critics who have good insight as to the program's failings also the ones who have the absolute dumbest ideas about how to enact positive change.

It was TBS obsession mixed with academia. Not everything needs to be a study. Work blended into recruiting which needs no study at all. Get good players and develop them.

A charismatic (and also very fucking strange) internet personality convinced people that it was a problem because he’s smarter and wittier than they are.

Recruiting matters ... far more than you often give it credit for.

Are there reasons to believe that development is important ... absolutely.

If you want an area to hold onto for optimism, the 2021 recruiting class is going to be one of the strangest ones on record because of the lack of Spring evaluations, no summer underwear Olympics, and quite possibly not having a high school season. Projections will mean a ton this year.

I think evidence suggests there are fewer programs that develop talent than there are programs that recruit.

The venn diagram of programs that do both successfully is:
Bama
Clemson
tOSU

We all realize it takes a balance of both to win big, but I think you TSIO boys underestimate the difficulty of finding coaches that develop kids.

Development absolutely matters

I’ve long been on record as saying the more you progress in a sport the more development, the mental side, etc becomes important

You also have to have the underlying physical attributes to get in the door though ... all the development, mental, etc is worthless if you physically can’t get the job done

you want that 5"3 120lb firefighter who knows exactly what to do but stuggles to drag their equipment across the block? Or do you want to see a bunch of 6'3" 235lb fit guys busting down your door to drag your ass to safety?

BRB, JO