Recruiting Reset

[Swaye]

Good chit @sonics1993 normally this stuff is in the Wam but I decided to be a benevolent dictator and allow the pours a taste. Also, Derek stopped sending me my drug money allowance due to Covid so this is me acting out.

Because of this move @sonics1993 is swimming with the fishes

No way. I love me some sonics.

@Swaye as much as you love tattooed snatch?

I don't even love myself as much as I love tattooed sluts.

 

[dannarc]

You really have to hate yourself first, it just opens the door to finding Ms. Desperate/Needy

 

[dirtysouwfdawg]

You really have to hate yourself first, it just opens the door to finding Ms. Desperate/Needy

I can vouch for this one.

 

[Baseman]

Julien being recruited as RB? Is that one of many reasons he's not feeling us?

Yeah they brought it up to him a couple months ago since they only want to take one ILB and want it to be Wyden. They tried to sell it as you can be the next Myles Jack and play both sides but he didn’t buy it.

Stupid. Not only is Gregory an awful recruiter, he's a poor evaluator.

Simon is better fit. He's faster, more athletic, has great instincts and well above average in coverage (a must in our defense).

He has more upside than Bieria and can stay on the field in lieu of a 6th DB in dime packages.

That doesn't include his intangibles. Smart kid. Excels in the classroom. Strong value system learned from good parents. Had we pursued him, he likely would have committed early and bolstered recruiting.

True, he's not a thumper but we have enough of those on the roster now. He won't make the highlight hit or plug the middle. He does, however, pursue well; he doesn't miss tackles and would fit well playing alongside Calvert or Hemuli. Simon is not a 95+ ILB, more like a strong 90. I'd rather have him than Wyden.

So on a scale from 1 to Eason how closely related to Simon are you?

I prefer good Power 5 prospects. Fewer Jake Haeners. Less Kyler Manu. More Simons. More Eason.

If Malloe, Huff, Adam, or Jimmy the DB pass on a player, fine. Bob Gregory sucks. Just like our currently rostered QBs.

Not being physical in high school when playing LB is a problem. He’s not very fast either and he’s close to maxed out. I’m not sure how you can watch his Hudl and think he’s that good, but the 24/7 guys do too.

He has above average speed for LB. (faster than the current roster, except maybe Eddie or Hemuli) Much of his HUDL is @ RB -- NAIA like

Two guys I trust, twice have clocked him @ mid to upper 4.6's. He doesn't look amazing in space. So what. Our defense needs a WL that can run sideline to sideline, make backside tackles, and cover. That's Simon.

He's not a .95 TBS darling, overall he looks like a .90. Whatever the case, he fits our defense.

Gregory dicked around offering, and the offer finally came as a 2 way player, which, as described, he is not. Offer him as a WIL or don't offer @ all.

In any event, it's another Bob Gregory, El Floppo production.

 

[DoogCourics]

Julien being recruited as RB? Is that one of many reasons he's not feeling us?

Yeah they brought it up to him a couple months ago since they only want to take one ILB and want it to be Wyden. They tried to sell it as you can be the next Myles Jack and play both sides but he didn’t buy it.

Stupid. Not only is Gregory an awful recruiter, he's a poor evaluator.

Simon is better fit. He's faster, more athletic, has great instincts and well above average in coverage (a must in our defense).

He has more upside than Bieria and can stay on the field in lieu of a 6th DB in dime packages.

That doesn't include his intangibles. Smart kid. Excels in the classroom. Strong value system learned from good parents. Had we pursued him, he likely would have committed early and bolstered recruiting.

True, he's not a thumper but we have enough of those on the roster now. He won't make the highlight hit or plug the middle. He does, however, pursue well; he doesn't miss tackles and would fit well playing alongside Calvert or Hemuli. Simon is not a 95+ ILB, more like a strong 90. I'd rather have him than Wyden.

So on a scale from 1 to Eason how closely related to Simon are you?

I prefer good Power 5 prospects. Fewer Jake Haeners. Less Kyler Manu. More Simons. More Eason.

If Malloe, Huff, Adam, or Jimmy the DB pass on a player, fine. Bob Gregory sucks. Just like our currently rostered QBs.

Not being physical in high school when playing LB is a problem. He’s not very fast either and he’s close to maxed out. I’m not sure how you can watch his Hudl and think he’s that good, but the 24/7 guys do too.

He has above average speed for LB. (faster than the current roster, except maybe Eddie or Hemuli) Much of his HUDL is @ RB -- NAIA like

Two guys I trust, twice have clocked him @ mid to upper 4.6's. He doesn't look amazing in space. So what. Our defense needs a WL that can run sideline to sideline, make backside tackles, and cover. That's Simon.

He's not a .95 TBS darling, overall he looks like a .90. Whatever the case, he fits our defense.

Gregory dicked around offering, and the offer finally came as a 2 way player, which, as described, he is not. Offer him as a WIL or don't offer @ all.

In any event, it's another Bob Gregory, El Floppo production.

I don’t disagree with you on your assessment, in fact I agree. But.... as a recruiting noid on the bored, I gotta address two items.

Simon wasn’t offered late. He was offered June 22nd of last year. Prior to his Junior year starting. And it was at LB. they didn’t start talking to him about being a RB until now.

Just for posterity.

 

[FKA_Mousecop]

At the end of the day we only truly need 1 inside backer in this class unless there’s some attrition unless we want 14 ILBs on scholarship. As long as we get one really good one like Wynden then that’s okay. Simon doesn’t move the needle in any one direction.

 

[Baseman]

Julien being recruited as RB? Is that one of many reasons he's not feeling us?

Yeah they brought it up to him a couple months ago since they only want to take one ILB and want it to be Wyden. They tried to sell it as you can be the next Myles Jack and play both sides but he didn’t buy it.

Stupid. Not only is Gregory an awful recruiter, he's a poor evaluator.

Simon is better fit. He's faster, more athletic, has great instincts and well above average in coverage (a must in our defense).

He has more upside than Bieria and can stay on the field in lieu of a 6th DB in dime packages.

That doesn't include his intangibles. Smart kid. Excels in the classroom. Strong value system learned from good parents. Had we pursued him, he likely would have committed early and bolstered recruiting.

True, he's not a thumper but we have enough of those on the roster now. He won't make the highlight hit or plug the middle. He does, however, pursue well; he doesn't miss tackles and would fit well playing alongside Calvert or Hemuli. Simon is not a 95+ ILB, more like a strong 90. I'd rather have him than Wyden.

So on a scale from 1 to Eason how closely related to Simon are you?

I prefer good Power 5 prospects. Fewer Jake Haeners. Less Kyler Manu. More Simons. More Eason.

If Malloe, Huff, Adam, or Jimmy the DB pass on a player, fine. Bob Gregory sucks. Just like our currently rostered QBs.

Not being physical in high school when playing LB is a problem. He’s not very fast either and he’s close to maxed out. I’m not sure how you can watch his Hudl and think he’s that good, but the 24/7 guys do too.

He has above average speed for LB. (faster than the current roster, except maybe Eddie or Hemuli) Much of his HUDL is @ RB -- NAIA like

Two guys I trust, twice have clocked him @ mid to upper 4.6's. He doesn't look amazing in space. So what. Our defense needs a WL that can run sideline to sideline, make backside tackles, and cover. That's Simon.

He's not a .95 TBS darling, overall he looks like a .90. Whatever the case, he fits our defense.

Gregory dicked around offering, and the offer finally came as a 2 way player, which, as described, he is not. Offer him as a WIL or don't offer @ all.

In any event, it's another Bob Gregory, El Floppo production.

I don’t disagree with you on your assessment, in fact I agree. But.... as a recruiting noid on the bored, I gotta address two items.

Simon wasn’t offered late. He was offered June 22nd of last year. Prior to his Junior year starting. And it was at LB. they didn’t start talking to him about being a RB until now.

Just for posterity.

True but don't tell a kid from Tacoma "we need to see you play in person before we offer," when we already had offered out of state '21 kids. Moronic. Great, prioritize better LB's. Don't offer but don't have delusions Simon is a two way player.

Bob's closing and evaluation record speaks for itself.

 

[dnc]

I am not pro Bob at all but I have no problem recruiting Simon as a RB. He is quite capable at the position.

If he doesn't want to play RB that's fine and you adjust and get him here at LB. But they didn't fuck anything up by suggesting he could play RB. He absolutely could.

 

[CallMeBigErn]

This really doesn't sound like anyone's problem but Simon's. He's not a can't-miss recruit and it shouldn't matter where our talent comes from, as long as we get that talent (which obviously remains to be seen). We just let a fellow local 4* LB walk to Virginia without offering. Why are we not clenching our teeth about that? We offered Simon a year ago and like FKA said, we only really need 1 inside backer. Shit or get off the pot, Julien.

 

[chuck]

I feel like this all comes down to Simon being a local guy. He's not an elite prospect but a solid one. What he does and how UW treats him will have some effect on local perception of the program. Is that enough to justify hand wringing over a mid to upper mid tier LB prospect?

I'm not feeling it.

I am, however, on the "get rid of Gregory last year" bandwagon with both feet. There are better guys out there who would come to UW in a heartbeat. Young guys who can relate to kids and their parents, who by many of our standards are kids themselves. If you're going to be old you have to be cool (think Racebannon away from the Tug) and this guy clearly is not.

 

[TTJ]

...Simon doesn’t move the needle in any one direction.

Does showing sustained love to Simon move the needle at all with JTT and Jayden Wayne? Simon's a great kid, he's local, and he's being heavily recruited by USC. But even if he was a Kyler Manu--which he's not--would a JTT-Wayne combo be worth a 3rd scholly? Do we (?) really want the Trojans to have an inroad with FSP?

I see both sides of this debate. It's not a slam dunk either way.

 

[dnc]

This really doesn't sound like anyone's problem but Simon's. He's not a can't-miss recruit and it shouldn't matter where our talent comes from, as long as we get that talent (which obviously remains to be seen). We just let a fellow local 4* LB walk to Virginia without offering. Why are we not clenching our teeth about that? We offered Simon a year ago and like FKA said, we only really need 1 inside backer. Shit or get off the pot, Julien.

He's best friends with the best player in the country, well connected with a plethora of in state talent, and a well above average recruit.

I'm not for taking scrubs to help get their better frens and teammates.

Simon's not a scrub and would be in no way a waste of a schools.

Not getting him because you got outrecruited would be a major failure.

Not getting him because you didn't want him would be a major failure.

Get him.

 

[dnc]

This really doesn't sound like anyone's problem but Simon's. He's not a can't-miss recruit and it shouldn't matter where our talent comes from, as long as we get that talent (which obviously remains to be seen). We just let a fellow local 4* LB walk to Virginia without offering. Why are we not clenching our teeth about that? We offered Simon a year ago and like FKA said, we only really need 1 inside backer. Shit or get off the pot, Julien.

He's best friends with the best player in the country, well connected with a plethora of in state talent, and a well above average recruit.

I'm not for taking scrubs to help get their better frens and teammates.

Simon's not a scrub and would be in no way a waste of a schools[/b].

Not getting him because you got outrecruited would be a major failure.

Not getting him because you didn't want him would be a major failure.

Get him.

*scholly

 

[1to392831weretaken]

This really doesn't sound like anyone's problem but Simon's. He's not a can't-miss recruit and it shouldn't matter where our talent comes from, as long as we get that talent (which obviously remains to be seen). We just let a fellow local 4* LB walk to Virginia without offering. Why are we not clenching our teeth about that? We offered Simon a year ago and like FKA said, we only really need 1 inside backer. Shit or get off the pot, Julien.

He's best friends with the best player in the country, well connected with a plethora of in state talent, and a well above average recruit.

I'm not for taking scrubs to help get their better frens and teammates.

Simon's not a scrub and would be in no way a waste of a schools[/b].

Not getting him because you got outrecruited would be a major failure.

Not getting him because you didn't want him would be a major failure.

Get him.

*scholly

*chin-state

 

[RaceBannon]

What would happen to our in state bumper crop if the Pac 12 doesn't play and the SEC and ACC do? Because I am pretty sure they will.

On the other side of that coin, Lane Kiffin said yesterday that a school loaded with blue chips like Bama might find the players not willing to play and will just wait for the draft. He's looking for and edge at Ol Miss

Either way Washington will lose so we have that going for us

 

[theknowledge]

What would happen to our in state bumper crop if the Pac 12 doesn't play and the SEC and ACC do? Because I am pretty sure they will.

On the other side of that coin, Lane Kiffin said yesterday that a school loaded with blue chips like Bama might find the players not willing to play and will just wait for the draft. He's looking for and edge at Ol Miss

Either way Washington will lose so we have that going for us

View attachment 23515

 

[Baseman]

I am not pro Bob at all but I have no problem recruiting Simon as a RB. He is quite capable at the position.

If he doesn't want to play RB that's fine and you adjust and get him here at LB. But they didn't fuck anything up by suggesting he could play RB. He absolutely could.

Agree to Disagree. Wasted scholarship as a RB. He's no Shaq or Jack.

I like the player and a big part of the appeal is the instate influence. If he was out of state and we end up with better, fine. We won't. What about Bob? says we will?

 

[dnc]

I am not pro Bob at all but I have no problem recruiting Simon as a RB. He is quite capable at the position.

If he doesn't want to play RB that's fine and you adjust and get him here at LB. But they didn't fuck anything up by suggesting he could play RB. He absolutely could.

Agree to Disagree. Wasted scholarship as a RB. He's no Shaq or Jack.

I like the player and a big part of the appeal is the instate influence. If he was out of state and we end up with better, fine. We won't. What about Bob? says we will?

I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a RB.

I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a LB either.

Those two were elite elite athletes. Jack is good.

He’s a step or two down from both which still makes him a guy you want.

 

[GrundleStiltzkin]

I am not pro Bob at all but I have no problem recruiting Simon as a RB. He is quite capable at the position.

If he doesn't want to play RB that's fine and you adjust and get him here at LB. But they didn't fuck anything up by suggesting he could play RB. He absolutely could.

Agree to Disagree. Wasted scholarship as a RB. He's no Shaq or Jack.

I like the player and a big part of the appeal is the instate influence. If he was out of state and we end up with better, fine. We won't. What about Bob? says we will?

I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a RB.

I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a LB either.

Those two were elite elite athletes. Jack is good.

He’s a step or two down from both which still makes him a guy you want.

 

[RatherBeBrewing]

I am not pro Bob at all but I have no problem recruiting Simon as a RB. He is quite capable at the position.

If he doesn't want to play RB that's fine and you adjust and get him here at LB. But they didn't fuck anything up by suggesting he could play RB. He absolutely could.

Agree to Disagree. Wasted scholarship as a RB. He's no Shaq or Jack.

I like the player and a big part of the appeal is the instate influence. If he was out of state and we end up with better, fine. We won't. What about Bob? says we will?

I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a RB.

I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a LB either.

Those two were elite elite athletes. Jack is good.

He’s a step or two down from both which still makes him a guy you want.

Ah, so that is how they managed to fit so many people into a truck bed.