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IPukeOregonGrellow
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Chryst. This is why this bored needs more @AZDuck and @TierbsHsotBoobs and less @DJDuck and @StrongArmCobra.
Ballz
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Trice was coveted bu UW, Notre Dame, and Oregon. The only begging that went on was Oregon begging him not to take his last OV to UW a week later. But I'm sure Oregon didn't want him after officially visiting him in the Fall two weeks before he made his decision. That was a pretty clear cut loss on Oregon's part. They wanted him. Treven Ma'ae was a plan B guy they took in advance in preparation for losing out on Trice. Nobody good wanted Ma'ae. His best committable offer was Oregon. Trice isn't small. He's 6'3.5 and 235 right now. A year in the weight room he'll be 250+.
Ngalu was a top performer at the Poly bowl. He's super quick twitch and explosive. Played some running back in high school. Very athletic. When Noa Ngalu is your lowest rated D-lineman in a D-line class of four guys, you're doing very well. Ngalu would have easily been the best DT in Oregon's 2019 class.
UW is being very selective with D-line recruiting this class. They will only take one guy. 4-star Xavier Carlton could be that guy.
Navarrette won't sign with Oregon. Also, Deshawn Lynch is fucking terrible and not an edge prospect. He's a DT in college if he not too dumb to graduate high school. But Oregon does have some talent on the edge. I'll give them that. But you're an idiot if you think the big boys up front aren't more important than the edge guys. Your defense is going to get gashed in the run game. You don't have enough size up front. Luckily for us, UW has both elite DT talent and edge talent.
The best D-line and O-line classes signed last class by any team out West are quite easily both in UW's 2019 class. Not Oregon's. UW signed three 4-star guys on the O-line and three 4-star D-lineman as well as an underrated 3-star in Ngalu. UW signed the best DT class in the country last class that included the Opening Finals D-line MVP, Jacob Bandes. Sama Paama was the best DT prospect in the country and was criminally underrated because he's from Hawaii and didn't do any big camps on the mainland.
UW already beat out Oregon for one 4-star All-American O-lineman this class in Roger Rosengarten and will do so again for Geirean Hatchett very soon. Gaard Memmelaar is also a 4-star talent but he's underrated because he's from Idaho and doesn't do camps. UW still has a chance to land Myles Murao whereas Oregon was eliminated from his top list a long time ago. UW is out-recruiting Oregon for O-lineman right now by a large margin.
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lawsandl
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I got the time to read this over.
-Trice was not a take. This was reported well before he committed and visited Oregon.
-If Trice ends up 250, he will be an injury concern. He looks like Jelks but 3 inches shorter.
-Ngalu is super short. I would much rather have Williams and Dorlus and their size/athleticism combination. Williams needs to get into a proper strength and conditioning program. Dorlus needs to fill out his frame. Ngalu will always be short.
-Oregon can’t be super selective on the DL. The numbers don’t allow it.
-Navarrette is dialed in and taking no other OVs.
-Lynch is not a take.
-Baker, Scott, and Faoliu are plenty big. The 2019 class has size. Williams and Dorlus are projected to play around 310 and Poti and Ware Hudson at 290. Cristobal thinks Dorlus settles around 315.
-UW pulled two 89 composite OL and a 87 composite. Let’s call it what it is. A decent haul not spectacular.
Oh, yeah, all muh 3 stars are underrated!
-Trice was not a take. This was reported well before he committed and visited Oregon.
-If Trice ends up 250, he will be an injury concern. He looks like Jelks but 3 inches shorter.
-Ngalu is super short. I would much rather have Williams and Dorlus and their size/athleticism combination. Williams needs to get into a proper strength and conditioning program. Dorlus needs to fill out his frame. Ngalu will always be short.
-Oregon can’t be super selective on the DL. The numbers don’t allow it.
-Navarrette is dialed in and taking no other OVs.
-Lynch is not a take.
-Baker, Scott, and Faoliu are plenty big. The 2019 class has size. Williams and Dorlus are projected to play around 310 and Poti and Ware Hudson at 290. Cristobal thinks Dorlus settles around 315.
-UW pulled two 89 composite OL and a 87 composite. Let’s call it what it is. A decent haul not spectacular.
Oh, yeah, all muh 3 stars are underrated!
greenblood
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SAC and Hondo are neck to neck in thread chinshittery
Ballz
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Trice was absolutely a take you idiot. Oregon's suck ass is not turning down a recruit that is being heavily pursued by UW and Notre Dame, especially a defensive recruit UW wants. They tried to get him to commit and cancel his UW official visit for a week later. He said no. Any bullshit spin from you quook mods was preemptive WDWHA bullshit. Oregon knew in advance of his OV to Oregon that he was committing two weeks later. If you don't want a fucking kid and know he's about to commit two weeks later, you don't waste your fucking time officially visiting him. You think Trice would have taken that OV to Oregon if he didn't have a committable offer from them? He had offers from UW, USC, Bama, and Notre Dame and you think Oregon officially visited him and was like "no thanks". Lol get the fuck out of here. They wanted him just as much as UW and would have taken him. I also don't know what your retarded ass is talking about but Trice is not small at all. He's 6'3.5 and thicc. 250 was being conservative. He'll be 260-270 in a couple years. He's built like Joe Tryon.
Ngalu is 6'0.5 and will be 290 as a RS Freshman. Same height as Greg Gaines and a bunch of DTs on Oregon's roster. Jordan Scott is a midget. Neither of your D-line commits last class are more athletic or more explosive. Like I said, Ngalu played some RB at 280 pounds and showed a quick burst while doing it. He also balled out at the Poly bowl and was unblockable in one on ones. Dorlus is not 290 and would have to get fat to get up to 315. Kristian Williams is ass. Like I said, our lowest rated D-line signee is better than your highest rated one.
You're right, Oregon can't be super selective this class because UW kicked their asses taking all the best D-lineman last class and starved them out. Now they have to take just a bunch of warm bodies just to prevent massive depth issues in the future.
Navarrette commits to whatever school he last visited. His commitment is as solid as a fart in the wind. He'll be eyeing an official visit to UW in the Fall. He'll have to be a complete idiot not to, considering UW's success on defense. Are you calling him an idiot?
All of UW's O-lineman from last class are composite 4-stars. All of them have huge upside. Fautanu is a 5-star talent. His athleticism and speed are off the charts for an offensive lineman. He's already up to 295 and has a chance to start for UW at RT as a RS Freshman. Buelow and Kalepo are genetic freaks. They have the potential to be dominant players three years from now. Buelow has All-American LT potential. He's so big, so long, and moves his feet with ease. And he's not fat either.
It's true. UW's 3-stars are mostly underrated. Oregon's 3-stars are mostly JAGS. Film don't lie.
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Ballz
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Oregon doesn't have real commits. Decommit U.
https://twitter.com/WestCoastCFB/status/1141200273949331461
https://twitter.com/WestCoastCFB/status/1141200273949331461
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greenblood
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Oregon is taking a pretty small class in comparison to year's past, so quality is more important this year. It's concerning, and really no way to sugarcoat it.
To combat SAC's point about the trenches. The trenches are the most important for sure, but Washington isn't pulling in the skill guys they need. Stanford, Michigan St., Michigan, and Wisconsin load up on the trenches every year. How many national titles have they won? Better yet, how many playoffs have they made? It's 75% trenches, but if UW can't even get a guy like Smalls from their own backyard, that's a problem. You can say the kid is drama and immature, but that's pretty much every high level skill player. Pete and company's recruiting strategy is great for getting high quality trenches, but you need to "wine and dine and 69" the high level skill guys. Peterman refuses, and that will continue to hold this team back.
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lawsandl
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They brought in Trice because they were still considering a rush end. It wasn’t like Trice wasn’t a take but they weren’t going to chase him with a bird in the hand. Trice was not a must take player.
I highly doubt he get anywhere near 260. Kid is not broad in the shoulder or have sand in his pants. Ma’ae definitely has the bigger frame.
I highly doubt he get anywhere near 260. Kid is not broad in the shoulder or have sand in his pants. Ma’ae definitely has the bigger frame.