Question for the people here over 40
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TurdBomber
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You think you're funny, too.
Neither is correct.
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TurdBomber
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As would be any desperate, attention-starved loser.
Congrats.
I really do not GAF about what a person does with their body - after they are on their own. and can afford it.
Our government should not PAY for any one to go thru transitioning from one sex to another. Nor should any insurance company be forced to pay for it via government regulations. Our government should have all laws written in a neutered language - get rid of sexualization in the languages. Make it apply to one and all.
As far as sports go - get rid of any and all sex in it. Football. Baseball. Soccer. Bassetball - if you are good enough to make the team who cares what sex you are. Tough shit to all the losers.
Kids - keep them neutral in the learning at our schools - do not cram their heads full of gender other than in our language. Language does have gender, people have sexes - two of them.
Trans and gender is something created in modern psychology, and has attempted to be entered into the mainstream by our elite academia. Again, if when they can afford to go thru a transition, more power to them. I do not care if they want to mutilate their bodies.
I remember when the media screamed about the radical islams mutilating young girls - that kind of died down when they changed to accepting mutilating our kids.
Our government should not PAY for any one to go thru transitioning from one sex to another. Nor should any insurance company be forced to pay for it via government regulations. Our government should have all laws written in a neutered language - get rid of sexualization in the languages. Make it apply to one and all.
As far as sports go - get rid of any and all sex in it. Football. Baseball. Soccer. Bassetball - if you are good enough to make the team who cares what sex you are. Tough shit to all the losers.
Kids - keep them neutral in the learning at our schools - do not cram their heads full of gender other than in our language. Language does have gender, people have sexes - two of them.
Trans and gender is something created in modern psychology, and has attempted to be entered into the mainstream by our elite academia. Again, if when they can afford to go thru a transition, more power to them. I do not care if they want to mutilate their bodies.
I remember when the media screamed about the radical islams mutilating young girls - that kind of died down when they changed to accepting mutilating our kids.
https://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news/20190503/study-about-1-in-1000-babies-born-intersex
Of course, progressives have their own definition which expands it to 1.5%.
Of course, progressives have their own definition which expands it to 1.5%.
creepycoug
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<<blockquote class="Quote" rel="RoadTrip"><blockquote class="Quote" rel="creepycoug"><blockquote class="Quote" rel="SFGbob">Do you recall a single "trans-gender" student during any of your 12 years of primary, Junior high and high school?</blockquote>
Nope. Not one. I'm in the camp with Douglas Murray on this one. We are making permanent decisions with kids, and we are managing our culture on the basis of an all-in assumption that trans is like gay: just who you are. Murray (who is gay) says, and I agree, that we don't know much of anything about trans and we should, at the very least, be pumping the breaks on it. He also believes, as do I, that mental illness is likely a big driver, but being the academic that he is, he doens't firmly conclude on that point w/o a study. At least as far as the last talk he gave that I have watched.
Although I am not gay (I swear!) and have no gay children or siblings, I don't agree with the subtle conflation of trans and gay in the public discourse on this issue. And that's on both sides of the debate.
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Gay has been with us since the dawn of time, and while I believe there can be some "fashionable" joining of a lifestyle on some occasions for a period of time, it seems that homosexuality is largely a born-in trait. Trans is something else altogether from what I can tell.</blockquote></b>
This would make an excellent discussion. What have you witnessed that would indicate homosexuality is genetic? I'd say it is more environmental.
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Me? Nothing at all. If someone put a study like that in front of me I wouldn't know what to do with it. My POV is entirely inferential, based largely on the following premise: being gay has almost been in most/ many cultures in most times something that would create varying levels of problems for the person who is gay. When I was growing up it was limiting, at best. It didn't make high school very pleasant, and of course we know in some barbaric cultures today it's a death sentence. It disappoints parents and it seems clear that a lot of people fight it for years before finally giving in to what seems to be their natural make-up. So, against all that, people engage in homosexual acts/relationships, and I infer from that reality that there must be some biologically driven urge to the attraction. If you're getting in on w/ some dude in Afghanistan, where you can basically make any woman be yours and where, if you're caught, you're going to get stoned to death or some shit, then I assume it's something you <i class="Italic">really </i>want to do.
Beyond that, there's historical evidence it's been with us throughout time. In ancient Greece, gay relationships were pretty normal and, worse, those relationships between older and younger men were known and tolerated. So much so that there were culturally-imposed rules and expectations that applied to them. I won't go into what those were, but it was the case. There is ancient art that reflects this pretty clearly as well showing a younger man blocking an approaching older guy from grabbing his junk ... a culturally acceptable way of saying, "no, not into it." I guess if there was no blocking gesture that meant he was.
So, all that disturbing (to us) evidence seems to make it clear that homosexuality across the spectrum was common in ancient Greece. I think the academy with Socrates and the others was full on with it. There are lots of other examples.
Just like some dudes like certain things in women that I don't particularly find attractive, I guess those preferences can all the way to the other sex.
Just not for me.
Nope. Not one. I'm in the camp with Douglas Murray on this one. We are making permanent decisions with kids, and we are managing our culture on the basis of an all-in assumption that trans is like gay: just who you are. Murray (who is gay) says, and I agree, that we don't know much of anything about trans and we should, at the very least, be pumping the breaks on it. He also believes, as do I, that mental illness is likely a big driver, but being the academic that he is, he doens't firmly conclude on that point w/o a study. At least as far as the last talk he gave that I have watched.
Although I am not gay (I swear!) and have no gay children or siblings, I don't agree with the subtle conflation of trans and gay in the public discourse on this issue. And that's on both sides of the debate.
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Gay has been with us since the dawn of time, and while I believe there can be some "fashionable" joining of a lifestyle on some occasions for a period of time, it seems that homosexuality is largely a born-in trait. Trans is something else altogether from what I can tell.</blockquote></b>
This would make an excellent discussion. What have you witnessed that would indicate homosexuality is genetic? I'd say it is more environmental.
</blockquote>
Me? Nothing at all. If someone put a study like that in front of me I wouldn't know what to do with it. My POV is entirely inferential, based largely on the following premise: being gay has almost been in most/ many cultures in most times something that would create varying levels of problems for the person who is gay. When I was growing up it was limiting, at best. It didn't make high school very pleasant, and of course we know in some barbaric cultures today it's a death sentence. It disappoints parents and it seems clear that a lot of people fight it for years before finally giving in to what seems to be their natural make-up. So, against all that, people engage in homosexual acts/relationships, and I infer from that reality that there must be some biologically driven urge to the attraction. If you're getting in on w/ some dude in Afghanistan, where you can basically make any woman be yours and where, if you're caught, you're going to get stoned to death or some shit, then I assume it's something you <i class="Italic">really </i>want to do.
Beyond that, there's historical evidence it's been with us throughout time. In ancient Greece, gay relationships were pretty normal and, worse, those relationships between older and younger men were known and tolerated. So much so that there were culturally-imposed rules and expectations that applied to them. I won't go into what those were, but it was the case. There is ancient art that reflects this pretty clearly as well showing a younger man blocking an approaching older guy from grabbing his junk ... a culturally acceptable way of saying, "no, not into it." I guess if there was no blocking gesture that meant he was.
So, all that disturbing (to us) evidence seems to make it clear that homosexuality across the spectrum was common in ancient Greece. I think the academy with Socrates and the others was full on with it. There are lots of other examples.
Just like some dudes like certain things in women that I don't particularly find attractive, I guess those preferences can all the way to the other sex.
Just not for me.
creepycoug
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Here's another one. Maybe the history buffs can substantiate. Our old CFO was a West Point guy, and he said they were taught in their military history class that the Athenian and Spartan armies had smaller divisions akin to a "special forces"-type groups. These groups were comprised of homosexual men who were in relationships with one another and, it was thought, would fight even more fiercely because they were fighting for one another.
IDK if that's true, but he was a pretty serious (and straight) guy, and that's what he relayed from his West Point education. Go figure.
The world was and still is a funny place.
IDK if that's true, but he was a pretty serious (and straight) guy, and that's what he relayed from his West Point education. Go figure.
The world was and still is a funny place.
HHusky
New Fish
But whatever progressives say, let's stay grounded in objective facts.
One in a thousand births are objectively, factually intersex. A very small percentage, to be sure. Yet still, that implies approximately 330,000 Americans. About the same as the population of Cincinnati.
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TurdBomber
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So that's about 6.8 people at any Seahawks game. Seems reasonable, then, to turn society upside down to accommodate the 1 in 1000, doesn't it?
Or maybe the 1/1000 folks should adapt to the other 999, not the other way around. But you'd rather modify the behavior of 999 people instead of teaching the 1 to adapt and not be an asshole.
No wonder you're a shitty lawyer.
TurdBomber
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Dodge the point. Nice lawyering.
