GrundleStiltzkin
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I'm 81% sure he did.
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https://www.covingtonreporter.com/sports/josiah-bronson-signs-on-with-temple-national-signing-day/
More than 25 of Josiah Bronson’s teammates and family members gathered at the Kentwood High School library Wednesday to watch the Kentwood football player sign his letter of intent to play football at Temple University.
Bronson was rated as a three-star recruit on Rivals.com, with a gaudy 4.75 second 40-yard dash time to go with his 6-foot-5-inch, 265 pound frame. The defensive end, who finished the 2014 season as a first-team AP all-state selection at defensive end, picked the full scholarship offer from the Owls over multiple other schools, including the University of New Mexico. Bronson’s head coach, Rex Norris, said Ohio State University showed interest in Bronson, but only as a walk-on.
Temple’s defensive line coach Elijah Robinson played football with Bronson’s oldest brother, John, at Penn State University. John played in a total of three games in the NFL as a tight end for the Arizona Cardinals during the 2005 and 2006 seasons. Josiah’s other brother, Demitrius, a running back on the Seattle Seahawks practice squad during the 2014 season who recently signed a contract with the Seahawks for the 2015 season, attended Josiah’s signing celebration.
I’ve seen Molden also get picked on by bigger WR’s quite a few times, but he doesn’t get near the flack that Bryant did.
Bryant also go better defending bigger WR’s over time. He had a great play against Drake London in the USC game on 4th down at the goal line.
We would all rather have bigger players, but Myles Bryant was an asset at UW and did a lot more good than bad. It’s a stupid narrative at this point. He balled out and was well respected by the league for his play.
Bryant also go better defending bigger WR’s over time. He had a great play against Drake London in the USC game on 4th down at the goal line.
We would all rather have bigger players, but Myles Bryant was an asset at UW and did a lot more good than bad. It’s a stupid narrative at this point. He balled out and was well respected by the league for his play.
1to392831weretaken
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6'5", 265, 4.75 40, older brother played football at Penn State, and best offer was Temple? What the fuck am I missing!?
GrundleStiltzkin
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We?ve gone through the looking glass
FKA_Mousecop
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Coming in as a RB to start but might end up at LB
rustysavage
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DDY approves. Must be black enough.
EsophagealFeces
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The part where his 40 time was bullshit
creepycoug
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And who might that be?
creepycoug
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In an athletic endeavor involving physical actions that are done more easily, more consistently or even at all with the benefit of height, height, itself, is part of the talent equation.
There are no "talented"5'11" centers in basketball.
creepycoug
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I can't think of a top 10 defense on which he'd be penciled in as a starter. Nickel/slot, sure, if there were nobody else.
CallMeBigErn
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He's been a starter on a top 10 defense, you twat.
creepycoug
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I meant defense on a Top 10 team. Unit rankings don't mean anything. I'm sure he could start for UAB, San Diego State and Buffalo. JFC. I'm sure he'd find his way onto the field for the #2 defense in the country from the P12 south as well. Of course, none of us believed they were really worth a shit, but there you have it. Rankings don't lie.
A top 10 team is a different matter. Which of the following teams is he a shoe-in to start for:
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1to392831weretaken
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The assumption you need to defend here is that the actions of a nickel corner in college football are ones that most of the time favor height over other attributes. There are freaks, sure, but in the real world there is a tradeoff for everything. It's the sum total of the parts that matter. If Myles Bryant could be 7'2" 320 pounds and otherwise exactly the same player that he is, would he be better? Of course! But that's not how this works. Perhaps the lack of height that is a liability at times allows him to move in ways that made him the spread-killing nickel corner and safety that he was? Who knows.
Your question of whether he would start for a top-ten team (I see three or four on which he might if given a fair shot, btw) is a much better argument, as it's a comparison of relative overall talent instead of focused on one physical attribute.
We can bitch all we want about young receivers not getting a fair shot on this team, but you'd have to be an idiot to try making the case that Bryant only started on defense due to seniority, as that defensive backfield had two true freshmen starting on it this year[/i]. Guys that Bryant has kept off the field the last two seasons are 6'2" Keith Taylor and 6'3" Dominique Hampton. He also kept slightly bigger 4-star corner and new hotness Elijah Molden on the bench for a few years. This happened because the coaches working with them thought he was--as an overall package on the field--better.
creepycoug
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That's not my assumption so I needn't defend it. Of course, twitch and hips and all that shit matter ... a lot. But every coach in the US wants length. Sure, the premium on that for nickel guys is different.
I always assume the guys on the field are better than the guys not on the field, until it's proven otherwise (which, as we well know with some of the receivers, happens).
I don't know what the seniority argument is. That's presumably for someone else. I think Bryant is fine, but he's not a nationally elite defensive back. I don't know that he'd crack the starting lineup at Oregon. Who would he bump?
1to392831weretaken
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In a discussion about Myles Bryant's height impacting the impression many have of him as a football player, you responded with "In an athletic endeavor involving physical actions that are done more easily, more consistently or even at all with the benefit of height, height, itself, is part of the talent equation.
There are no "talented"5'11" centers in basketball."[/i]
Either this was a non sequitur that you typed for the fun of it, or your implication is that playing hybrid corner/safety in a base-nickel defense, as Myles Bryant does and almost certainly would at the NFL level or for any top-10 college team, is such an endeavor where height is a prerequisite for talent.
Which is exactly Teq's point. He basically stated exactly this, followed by this being the reason Bryant will be valued below his talent level. You countered by way of analogy that, in certain endeavors at least, height IS talent, or at least a prohibitively important component. To which I responded that, while this is true, one then must prove that playing Bryant's position is such an endeavor or else a point really hasn't been made. In other words, "The coaches aren't wrong about knocking Bryant for his height because coaches want height" is a tautological argument.
This was me just trying to head that argument off that pass. My point was that, barring some kind of criticism of the staff's choice of playing him, Bryant has already proven to be better than players much taller and more highly rated than him. I think if he were given a fair chance at a top-10 program, I don't see why it's impossible he would do the same there. Hell, Ern's point that he did, indeed, start on a top-10 defense shouldn't be so casually dismissed.
And I watched exactly one play of Oregon football this year, on the shitter at Home Depot, so I can't answer that last question.
FKA_Mousecop
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Nickel/Slot is a starter for nearly all teams these days...