Petersen's Presser

I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
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And yet they gave up six points.

The defense isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer either but they're still damn good.

Defense isn't the issue.
 
I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
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And yet they gave up six points.

The defense isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer either but they're still damn good.

Defense isn't the issue.
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It's a good defense but nothing special. Yeah they don't give up a lot of points but they also don't get off the field quickly to give the offense more opportunities. An god knows this offense needs as many opportunities as possible. Also my measure of an excellent defense is stepping up when the game matters. Couldn't get off the field at the end of the half against USC. Couldn't stop ASU with the game on the line at the end. Couldn't stop Cal to get the ball back. Bend and break reduces points against, what it doesn't do is optimize offensive opportunity.
 
Even if this team was undefeated it is still in no position to compete with the best teams in the country. Petersen has had 5 years to get the program to a consistent conference contender. Let's see if he is capable of elevating it to elite.
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This is the rational take but you can fuck off and die
 
I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
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And yet they gave up six points.

The defense isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer either but they're still damn good.

Defense isn't the issue.
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I think the issue is the Ding Dong offense. It's relies too much on trickeration, weird formations, pre-snap movement, and not enough on Tuff Fysical football. There seems to be a lack of toughness and will on this team which ties into the offensive identity as a finesse team. Fuck finesse, lets get back to Washington football. My favorite game of the Pete Era was Pac 12 championship game. Browning couldn't lift his arm over his shoulder so we shoved it down ralffy's throat. It was beautiful. Dumb it down some...it's working for the Hwaks.
 
Tequila give us your thoughts on point #3
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I don't think that Pete thinks that Browning has grown year over year ... but he also knows that he doesn't have any great directions to turn this year because QB recruiting has largely sucked in the Browning era ...

I think he knows that the OL is full of a lot of youth and guys that are playing for the most part are largely JAGs ... it's why they are rotating guys so much because nobody is really getting the job done.

I think he knows that with no Gaskin they take a massive step back with the RB position because Ahmed has some growth that he needs to make in the offseason to be the #1 guy next year. Pleasant and McGrew are both good but inconsistent at this point week to week.

I think he knows that losing Hunter Bryant was a big deal to the passing game and why he was singled out from an injury standpoint. It slots everybody down a spot with Bryant in the mix. It's not that Sample and Otton haven't done a good job ... but Bryant is a difference maker in ways that they aren't.

I think he knows that the WR talent is a mix of talented guys that still have another step to make (Ty Jones and the ability to regularly separate and be the #1 type of WR that he will be next year) and guys that should be #3 guys (or deeper) in Fuller and Opera Singer. It's another case of poor recruiting condemning this offense.

The benching of Browning was really a last ditch attempt to reach and shock the offense. I don't think that the Pick 6 was ever in the imagination of what happened.

I think Pete knows that the offense is what it is at this point and with the exception of possibly getting Gaskin and Bryant back (with varying degrees of health to them), there's really not much that is going to change between now and the offseason.

The other thing he said that I think was really interesting was on the same lines of a discussion that Dennis and I were having Saturday tied to the defense. Dennis was 100% right in saying that it's hard to criticize the defense AT ALL after giving up 6 points in a game. I was on the side of saying that our defense is kind of known on how to attack us at this point and when it comes to creating turnovers or getting stops at the end of the game we tend to fail in those spots. Pete echoed both in the lack of turnovers (particularly given Cal's propensity for them) and inability to get stops at the end of the game.

I think Pete knows that this year didn't go anywhere near expectations and that there are some significant areas to address. Some will be covered simply by upgrading the talent level and steps have been taken previously to address that. But there are other areas where you get the impression there will be areas addressed this offseason. This isn't the first time he's talked about not getting turnovers on defense this year and it's obviously an issue despite the fact that UW's got one of the Top 3-5 secondaries in college football.
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I died, was reincarnated - twice - and lived two full lives while reading this.
 
Cal defense got turnovers that won the game

UW didn't

And doesn't this year
 
I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
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We have 2-3 guys that will go pro next year.... so thinking this isn’t it.
Lake is following suit of his leader, Peterman, and together they’ve managed to make it where our players are unmotivated. The one thing in life that was fun, sucked from them. Fun suckers.
 
I for one respect the Comportment that Pete’s teams display on any given Saturday. It teaches lessons in life that will be useful long after their PE teacher careers are done.
 
I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
Click to expand...

And yet they gave up six points.

The defense isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer either but they're still damn good.

Defense isn't the issue.
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It's a good defense but nothing special[/b]. Yeah they don't give up a lot of points but they also don't get off the field quickly to give the offense more opportunities. An god knows this offense needs as many opportunities as possible. Also my measure of an excellent defense is stepping up when the game matters. Couldn't get off the field at the end of the half against USC. Couldn't stop ASU with the game on the line at the end. Couldn't stop Cal to get the ball back. Bend and break reduces points against, what it doesn't do is optimize offensive opportunity.
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BearsWiinFS POTD
 
My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
 
Cal defense got turnovers that won the game

UW didn't

And doesn't this year
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If the offense can't score more than 6 points blame it on the defense.

NYBE
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As iDawg and is used to point out, losers always have one area that fails but think the other areas are good so if we get a new OC it will be fine. Then the defense sucks

This is a 6-3 team that allowed Auburn to run it up their ass to win. Gave up the OT TD to Oregon and allowed 30 points to a team that has barely got a first down since

They let Cal run all over the field playing keep away while the defense sat back and let them

Turnovers lead to points like the winning team did. The losing team is talking about stats

The entire team is fucked up including the defense
 
Cal defense got turnovers that won the game

UW didn't

And doesn't this year
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If the offense can't score more than 6 points blame it on the defense.

NYBE
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As iDawg [/b]and is used to point out, losers always have one area that fails but think the other areas are good so if we get a new OC it will be fine. Then the defense sucks

This is a 6-3 team that allowed Auburn to run it up their ass to win. Gave up the OT TD to Oregon and allowed 30 points to a team that has barely got a first down since

They let Cal run all over the field playing keep away while the defense sat back and let them

Turnovers lead to points like the winning team did. The losing team is talking about stats

The entire team is fucked up including the defense
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Who?
 
I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
Click to expand...

And yet they gave up six points.

The defense isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer either but they're still damn good.

Defense isn't the issue.
Click to expand...

It's a good defense but nothing special[/b]. Yeah they don't give up a lot of points but they also don't get off the field quickly to give the offense more opportunities. An god knows this offense needs as many opportunities as possible. Also my measure of an excellent defense is stepping up when the game matters. Couldn't get off the field at the end of the half against USC. Couldn't stop ASU with the game on the line at the end. Couldn't stop Cal to get the ball back. Bend and break reduces points against, what it doesn't do is optimize offensive opportunity.
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BearsWiinFS POTD
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hurtful
 
I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
Click to expand...

And yet they gave up six points.

The defense isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer either but they're still damn good.

Defense isn't the issue.
Click to expand...

It's a good defense but nothing special[/b]. Yeah they don't give up a lot of points but they also don't get off the field quickly to give the offense more opportunities. An god knows this offense needs as many opportunities as possible. Also my measure of an excellent defense is stepping up when the game matters. Couldn't get off the field at the end of the half against USC. Couldn't stop ASU with the game on the line at the end. Couldn't stop Cal to get the ball back. Bend and break reduces points against, what it doesn't do is optimize offensive opportunity.
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BearsWiinFS POTD
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hurtful
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It felt wrong typing it but I had to poast it anyway. Good for my brand.
 
Race is spot on here

The defense does a lot right ...

But for as much as people shit on Browning for his issues (and fairly so), the defense has shit the bed in key spots more than many would care to admit
 
My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
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Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
 
My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
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Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
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The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

The offenses job is to score points.

It's hard.
 
My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
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Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
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The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

The offenses job is to score points.

It's hard.
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And how is that working so far?
 
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