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Petersen Pissed Away the Utah Game, but he won't Admit it
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Tequilla
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Who knows the reason(s) that Washington started over Gaskin ...
Personally, starting or not at the RB position doesn't matter to me. We needed both RBs to be productive last night. To me, there's some minor pressing in worrying about who is or isn't starting at that point since we don't rely on our lead RB to carry the ball 35 times in a game.
Also, I think that there's some stretching to say that Browning is struggling. He made a number of good throws last night, was very strong last weekend against Arizona, and had how many passes just flat out dropped last night? While running the ball on Utah is necessary, the reality is that the teams that have been successful on Utah this year have been able to get chunk plays in the passing game. With the single safety look that they were giving for most of the game, I don't have a general problem with Browning being asked to throw the ball.
Couple other points:
1) It never struck me as a monsoon out on the field. It was most definitely raining ... but it never looked to me like it was raining to the point that you couldn't throw the ball.
2) When you cited what Washington did to end the first half and then noting that Utah fucked up the opportunity that they had, you could/should have also noted that there were about 20 seconds left on the clock for Washington on the 37 with 2 timeouts. There was a very decent wind swirling towards the open end that 2 reasonable intermediate throws would have given Van Winkle a shot at picking up 3 to end the half. The fact that we took a knee there was a massive mangina play in my mind.
Personally, starting or not at the RB position doesn't matter to me. We needed both RBs to be productive last night. To me, there's some minor pressing in worrying about who is or isn't starting at that point since we don't rely on our lead RB to carry the ball 35 times in a game.
Also, I think that there's some stretching to say that Browning is struggling. He made a number of good throws last night, was very strong last weekend against Arizona, and had how many passes just flat out dropped last night? While running the ball on Utah is necessary, the reality is that the teams that have been successful on Utah this year have been able to get chunk plays in the passing game. With the single safety look that they were giving for most of the game, I don't have a general problem with Browning being asked to throw the ball.
Couple other points:
1) It never struck me as a monsoon out on the field. It was most definitely raining ... but it never looked to me like it was raining to the point that you couldn't throw the ball.
2) When you cited what Washington did to end the first half and then noting that Utah fucked up the opportunity that they had, you could/should have also noted that there were about 20 seconds left on the clock for Washington on the 37 with 2 timeouts. There was a very decent wind swirling towards the open end that 2 reasonable intermediate throws would have given Van Winkle a shot at picking up 3 to end the half. The fact that we took a knee there was a massive mangina play in my mind.
How many fumbles vs. touches does Gaskin have? How many fumbles vs. touches does DWarsh have?
DWarsh doesn't know how to properly secure the ball. It's obvious that this is something that can't be coached with him. He sucks with ball security. Bench his ass.
doogsinparadise
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*Hizbullah. In certain circles.
TTJ would have led the Damascus Wildcats to 0-12.
doogsinparadise
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This is the kind of thinking that says you shouldn't bring your closer in before the ninth inning, or that you shouldn't go for it on fourth down at Oregon's 39 because of field position or something. Pull your fucking head out.
Dennis_DeYoung
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If GW were president "ISIS" would be "WASWAS"!! LOL!!
DugtheDoog
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Derek, you mean like the Arizona game?!?11?!1?!?!?!
DugtheDoog
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I think most of Derek's points are valid. I had the same knee-jerk reaction. I also agree with what Teq said. I know it's cool to lead a miserable and pathetic life, but if you're still in LIFPO mode with Peterbilt, you certainly don't have blinders on or are being doogish. Are there a lot of discouraging signs? Hell yeah. There's also a lot of encouraging signs.
I'm still in LIFPO mode but realize Peterbilt isn't a tier 1 coach. But in my mind, there's really only 5-6, if that, premium quality, automatic game changing coaches in college football that can win no matter who they put out on the field. All we know right now is Peterman has made some really FS mistakes and he's not a complete game-changing coach. But other than that, he could be Dirk Koetter or he could be a top 15 coach who once he gets his guys in there, averages 5.5-6 P12 wins/year. That jury is still out. And anyone who says they know for sure he's Dirk Koetter is just as idiotic as a doog claiming he's the next Don James.
Peterman is not a top 10 coach in the country. That's about all we know so far.
I'm still in LIFPO mode but realize Peterbilt isn't a tier 1 coach. But in my mind, there's really only 5-6, if that, premium quality, automatic game changing coaches in college football that can win no matter who they put out on the field. All we know right now is Peterman has made some really FS mistakes and he's not a complete game-changing coach. But other than that, he could be Dirk Koetter or he could be a top 15 coach who once he gets his guys in there, averages 5.5-6 P12 wins/year. That jury is still out. And anyone who says they know for sure he's Dirk Koetter is just as idiotic as a doog claiming he's the next Don James.
Peterman is not a top 10 coach in the country. That's about all we know so far.
We want a need a great coach. Period end of fucking story. Not interested in seeing if Petersen can improve to mediocre.
DugtheDoog
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And the maddening thing to me, is I lived in Boise for 5 years of Peterbilt's tenure at Bozo. I didn't really give a fuck about the team..in fact, I rooted against them because their fan base is extremely myopic and moronic. But living there, I did watch 90% of their games and I never once saw this bullshit. I mean maybe under his unflappable demeanor is a crisis of confidence. Some of his moves in-game are mind-blowing yet he never showed precedent of doing the same things at Boise. Last year's Arizona game I chalked up to a throwaway season but it's getting to the point where the see-saw is moving in the other direction.
And it sucks because every other part of the program, from recruiting to player development to evaluation, roster management, etc., I am ecstatic with. Fuck. Me. I wish I had @Swaye's liver and @Dennis_DeYoung 's indestructable phone (and tree guy)
And it sucks because every other part of the program, from recruiting to player development to evaluation, roster management, etc., I am ecstatic with. Fuck. Me. I wish I had @Swaye's liver and @Dennis_DeYoung 's indestructable phone (and tree guy)
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DugtheDoog
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Well who can we get that's better?11??!!?? Huh1???11!? We're all the way in Seattle and hemorrhaging money. Nobody wants to come here. Ask fucking Fleenor. Plus it's not just the Arizona schools. Utah is serious about football!!11!
Tequilla
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Petersen can't get out of this season without some flags ... there are issues that need to be addressed.
But the good still outweigh the bad. The trends are still far more positive than not.
Barring an absolute disaster next season, he'll still be around for Year 4. It's the next 2 years that are going to really define what we have in Petersen going forward. He can't slip up next year and go 7-5 or whatever. That won't be good enough. But he definitely needs to get past the 8-4 or 9-3 measure and at least win the North in the next 2 years to really maintain the "all is well" mindset.
But the good still outweigh the bad. The trends are still far more positive than not.
Barring an absolute disaster next season, he'll still be around for Year 4. It's the next 2 years that are going to really define what we have in Petersen going forward. He can't slip up next year and go 7-5 or whatever. That won't be good enough. But he definitely needs to get past the 8-4 or 9-3 measure and at least win the North in the next 2 years to really maintain the "all is well" mindset.