Pandering to the Doogs

still no early push to get guys on campus tells me everything i need to know about our current recruiting ~ Washington sells itself, this recruiting thing will take care of itself... meanwhile the coaching staff has better things to do right now.
 
still no early push to get guys on campus tells me everything i need to know about our current recruiting ~ Washington sells itself, this recruiting thing will take care of itself... meanwhile the coaching staff has better things to do right now.
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We're fucked
 
I hate this bullshit. 3 of the 4 guys who are going to get drafted were 4*. I listened to the press conference and he actually said that Keith Taylor was a lowly 2* and now he's going to be a high NFL draft pick. Sounds like Jimmy's already getting his talking points ready for another subpar class.https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1387799550367174658
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Yep. To Jimmy's credit, he has done really really well with blue chip db recruits. Probably in the top 5 in the nation when you look at guys like Buddha, Murphy, Molden, McDuffie. Those guys came in as studs but were also developed really well, which is why I hate the narrative of "Jimmy finds diamonds on the rough and makes them into All-Americans." He has developed a few lower ranked guys but his crown jewels have been 4 stars who left as 5 stars.

Which brings me to...HOW THE FUCK IS OUR DB RECRUITING SO BAD!!!?????

How can you not sell a kid on choosing UW over Oregon by comparing the development of Byron Murphy to Deommodore Lenoir or the production of Buddha Baker to Steve Stephens (highly ranked safety who is still on their bench after 3 years). Even Javon Holland is likely not a day 1 pick now.
 
I hate this bullshit. 3 of the 4 guys who are going to get drafted were 4*. I listened to the press conference and he actually said that Keith Taylor was a lowly 2* and now he's going to be a high NFL draft pick. Sounds like Jimmy's already getting his talking points ready for another subpar class.https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1387799550367174658
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Yep. To Jimmy's credit, he has done really really well with blue chip db recruits. Probably in the top 5 in the nation when you look at guys like Buddha, Murphy, Molden, McDuffie. Those guys came in as studs but were also developed really well, which is why I hate the narrative of "Jimmy finds diamonds on the rough and makes them into All-Americans." He has developed a few lower ranked guys but his crown jewels have been 4 stars who left as 5 stars.

Which brings me to...HOW THE FUCK IS OUR DB RECRUITING SO BAD!!!?????

How can you not sell a kid on choosing UW over Oregon by comparing the development of Byron Murphy to Deommodore Lenoir or the production of Buddha Baker to Steve Stephens (highly ranked safety who is still on their bench after 3 years). Even Javon Holland is likely not a day 1 pick now.
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Per 247 rankings, here's how our DB recruits under Jimmy stack up (ratings Composite because 247 doesn't go deep enough to rank a lot of these guys):

Four stars
Baker - 54
McDuffie - 126 (61 by 247, big gap)
Byron - 95
Irvin - 156
Molden - 179
Gordon - 187
Jacobe Covington - 189
Joyner -226
Gilchrist - 241
Taylor - 256
McKinney - 266
Turner - 300
A lot of Hale in his life - 328

High 3 stars
[/b]KamFab - 378
Love - 402
Williams - 404
Rapp - 471
McCutcheon - 478
Spears - 510
Elijah Jackson - 536
Makes Easteen - 602
Lavon Washington - 623
Gardenhire - 681

Lower 3 stars
[/b]James Smith - 820
Hampton - 855
McIntosh - 896
Jordan Miller - 970
Brandon Lewis - 1028
SMFJ - 1107
Nunley - 1350

Zeke Turner - 76 JUCO (how did I not remember he went to JUCO?)

So a few things stand out:

So far, 5 of the top 6 are clear hits (with time for Irvin to hit as well). Bodes well for Covington. Taylor and Joyner were hits too so of the guys who have had time to show anything you've got 7 out of 9 hits, and that's if we count Irvin as a miss. Gilchrist is the one clear whiff in the top 9. Clearly Lake does well with composite top 256 talent. His next 3 four stars may all be misses though, making him 7 of 9 overall with 4 stars (with Covington, Irvin and Turner jury still out but likely two misses non that group).

Things get fuzzy in second tier as we don't have a lot to go off of. Williams the jury is still out. KamFab too soon to say (but trending positively). Rapp home run. Then you get to the new guys and 2014 flyers. Scary that we don't have a single top 15 Lake DB recruit in this class and only one (Covington) in the last class. Of those with a track record here Washington was a miss and Gardenhire was decent until he had issues, you could rank him either way.

Then the bottom seven looks great. Too soon to know on Smith. Jury is out on Hampton but trending right. McIntosh was definitely a hit. Miller was a hit who got drafted. SMFJ was a first rounder if he didn't blow his Achilles. Lewis was a miss. And we don't know with Nunley.

Lake is great when he gets great talent and seems to be really good when he's taking guys at the bottom whom almost no one is offering. He hasn't taken a ton of guys in between until recently. And obviously if you want to move McKinney, Turner and Hale up a tier as they were all four tier guys you can do that and that knocks down the first tier some.

If we're going to continue to be DBU we're going to have to have the kind of success with high 3 stars that we've had with 4 stars.

The real question is why can't we get 4 star DB's anymore?

#FireTerrenceAndWillip
 
I hate this bullshit. 3 of the 4 guys who are going to get drafted were 4*. I listened to the press conference and he actually said that Keith Taylor was a lowly 2* and now he's going to be a high NFL draft pick. Sounds like Jimmy's already getting his talking points ready for another subpar class.https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1387799550367174658
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We take pride in our 15th ranked classes!!!!

(Except for last year of course when we took pride in telling everyone about our first place class)
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Hammer meet nail.

The Boise State OKG/Tryhard (rip TSIO)/system and scheme over talent still runs deep in JL

We are going to have 4 guys drafted. Haven't ran numbers but I would hope we have that many drafted every year minimum.

Pete had the quote about can't win the Kentucky Derby on a donkey, and I think after 2016 Bama saw the talent needed to compete at that level and went hammer down the next 3 classes (which I also think expedited his burnout imo) to get there.

For both Pete and JL there is a significant belief that they can plug and play alot of guys into their system and be just fine at the position (i.e anyone in their top 5/10 names on their recruiting big board) so if they lose a +++ recruit it's not the end of the world as they can get a ++ guy or even the + kid and be okay.

Difference is Pete would just coach speak it about it to reporters where Jimmy will brag about it.

 
I can see lakes arrogance being annoying if they do suck but name a good HC that isn't the most cocky/self confident personality type. Comes with the territory so consider resetting the baseline
 
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