PAC Deal Framework

[haie]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."

Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.

It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?

 

[SECDAWG]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."

Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.

It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?

@haie

TL;really haven’t read a lot.

But PAC is in a world of hurt without exposure (cams)…I have actually from
souf depended on late night at least the hated! Sec fuckwads!!! “ESPN” on at least ONE of their networks to bring me a late night game, after all day dranking, at least, like the rest of our “country ass” over here, for at least ONE game. One.

“PAC 12 ‘after dark’… I’m at least one of a few mil that would stay up and watch.

The worry now is, who’s going to bring that. It’s fading faster than Marilyn Monroe tits…

 

[SECDAWG]

Sad but true, @ntxduck

 

[1to392831weretaken]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."

Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.

It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?

@haie

TL;really haven’t read a lot.

But PAC is in a world of hurt without exposure (cams)…I have actually from
souf depended on late night at least the hated! Sec fuckwads!!! “ESPN” on at least ONE of their networks to bring me a late night game, after all day dranking, at least, like the rest of our “country ass” over here, for at least ONE game. One.

“PAC 12 ‘after dark’… I’m at least one of a few mil that would stay up and watch.

The worry now is, who’s going to bring that. It’s fading faster than Marilyn Monroe tits…

Sweet merciful crap...

At this point, I'm going right past asking for a translation and instead asking for a zoologist to tell me what species I'm dealing with here.

 

[SECDAWG]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."

Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.

It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?

@haie

TL;really haven’t read a lot.

But PAC is in a world of hurt without exposure (cams)…I have actually from
souf depended on late night at least the hated! Sec fuckwads!!! “ESPN” on at least ONE of their networks to bring me a late night game, after all day dranking, at least, like the rest of our “country ass” over here, for at least ONE game. One.

“PAC 12 ‘after dark’… I’m at least one of a few mil that would stay up and watch.

The worry now is, who’s going to bring that. It’s fading faster than Marilyn Monroe tits…

Sweet merciful crap...

At this point, I'm going right past asking for a translation and instead asking for a zoologist to tell me what species I'm dealing with here.

What exactly part don’t you understand, hammer?

 

[EwaDawg]

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The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."

Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.

It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?

@haie

TL;really haven’t read a lot.

But PAC is in a world of hurt without exposure (cams)…I have actually from
souf depended on late night at least the hated! Sec fuckwads!!! “ESPN” on at least ONE of their networks to bring me a late night game, after all day dranking, at least, like the rest of our “country ass” over here, for at least ONE game. One.

“PAC 12 ‘after dark’… I’m at least one of a few mil that would stay up and watch.

The worry now is, who’s going to bring that. It’s fading faster than Marilyn Monroe tits…

Sweet merciful crap...

At this point, I'm going right past asking for a translation and instead asking for a zoologist to tell me what species I'm dealing with here.

What exactly part don’t you understand, hammer?

The part starting with TL and ending with tits ...

I will say that you have a unique ability to put words (that I fully understand, individually) together in a manner that makes absolutely zero fucking sense.

 

[DerekJohnson]

Guarantee fuck nuts like this don't watch football. Lot of support on Twitter for Apple. Like there was for the innovative Pac 12 network. Uw stays they die. If they die they die
http://twitter.com/PeteFiutak/status/1686484710996709377?t=MvftI_Poime46FBw5vVM9A&s=19

Pete was my boss many moons ago

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

There are factors at play beyond "fuck it lets just publicly skin 7 schools who used to be our business partner."

Additionally this whole shit show forces UW and Oregon to accept less than a full share which makes all the fucking truck stops happy like Minnesota and Illinois, so that they can easily get the votes they need.

It helps those schools wit travel too. You'd see more of a pro style road trip where ah Indiana plays USC and then flies up to Seattle, does online lecturing/tutoring and practices in a public park before kicking UW's ass. Rather than flying back and forth to wherever the fuck their campus is, Hawkins?[/b]

Sounds like a dangerous road game.

 

[godawgst]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.

 

[Canadawg]

In reality people make to big a deal about flying time and distance. The reason regional matchups matter is because of culture and history not because it take an extra hour to get somewhere

 

[haie]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.

Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.

No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league.

 

[Canadawg]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.

Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.

No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league.

Vtech is a legitimate program with support. These decisions aren't based on the past 3 years of on field performance

 

[79smoothdawg]

In reality people make to big a deal about flying time and distance. The reason regional matchups matter is because of culture and history not because it take an extra hour to get somewhere

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Madison isnt terrible, but what about Maryland, Rutgers, college station?

 

[TheHB]

In reality people make to big a deal about flying time and distance. The reason regional matchups matter is because of culture and history not because it take an extra hour to get somewhere

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Madison isnt terrible, but what about Maryland, Rutgers, college station?

Meh. It’s not like you’d have to do it every year. With a 20-team conference you could figure a scheduling system that is doable.

 

[whlinder]

In reality people make to big a deal about flying time and distance. The reason regional matchups matter is because of culture and history not because it take an extra hour to get somewhere

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Total travel time does matter though. The 30-90 minute bus ride to the airport, the connecting flight, all that adds up.

 

[ntxduck]

The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.

Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…

Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.

Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.

No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league.

Vtech is a legitimate program with support. These decisions aren't based on the past 3 years of on field performance

Not really.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford

 

[PurpleBaze]

Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford

Waiting for Fleenor to report after working the phones and talking to his golf buddies.

 

[chuck]

Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford

Waiting for Fleenor to report after working the phones and talking to his golf buddies.

Is Bill still swinging those Rifle 7.0 broomsticks in his irons? Report back when you hear something.

 

[ntxduck]

Breaking news: Big considering adding UW and Oregon, or adding those two plus Cal and Stanford

Cal and Stanford should drop football and join wcc