OT: #marinerstalk

the guy who I actually buy is ackley, remember he hit 300 in the 2nd half last year
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Wedge a dumb fuck who basically ruined Ackley. Don't be shocked at all if him and Smoak start hitting now that jackass is gone.
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I can't comment too much on Wedge's time as manager because I never watched even an inning, but he looked like a dumbass and his career record sucks.

 
the angels pitching is a fucking dreckfest, their bullpen is trash, wilson and weaver are both not what they used to be, and the back end is a complete unknown. Good job arte, spend a gazzilion bucks on Pujols and Hamilton when you can be spending it on pitching
 
the angels pitching is a fucking dreckfest, their bullpen is trash, wilson and weaver are both not what they used to be, and the back end is a complete unknown. Good job arte, spend a gazzilion bucks on Pujols and Hamilton when you can be spending it on pitching
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He paid Wilson too. Gave him a 5 year 77 million when he isn't even close to being an ace.

Nice to see these young guys doing well for the Mariners like Smoak, Ackley and Miller. Hope they can break through. You gotta go back to Jose Lopez the last time the Mariners produced a home grown All-Star position player.
 
wilson had a great year in texas and hasn't done much since. Last year their back end was garrett richards and joe blanton for a portion of the year. You can spend as much on hitting as you want but it won't matter if you can't pitch
 
wilson had a great year in texas and hasn't done much since. Last year their back end was garrett richards and joe blanton for a portion of the year. You can spend as much on hitting as you want but it won't matter if you can't pitch
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Hard to win when you don't draft well or develop your youngsters. They hit a grand slam with Trout but other than him their system is dog shit. Reminds me of the Mariners during the Bavasi years so you can spend, spend and spend some more but if you don't have a good farm system you won't win.
 
the angels pitching is a fucking dreckfest, their bullpen is trash, wilson and weaver are both not what they used to be, and the back end is a complete unknown. Good job arte, spend a gazzilion bucks on Pujols and Hamilton when you can be spending it on pitching
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He paid Wilson too. Gave him a 5 year 77 million when he isn't even close to being an ace.

Nice to see these young guys doing well for the Mariners like Smoak, Ackley and Miller. Hope they can break through. You gotta go back to Jose Lopez the last time the Mariners produced a home grown All-Star position player.
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The fuck did Jose Lopez make an all-star team? Did all the other AL SS get FBA(RIP RACE)?
 
the angels pitching is a fucking dreckfest, their bullpen is trash, wilson and weaver are both not what they used to be, and the back end is a complete unknown. Good job arte, spend a gazzilion bucks on Pujols and Hamilton when you can be spending it on pitching
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He paid Wilson too. Gave him a 5 year 77 million when he isn't even close to being an ace.

Nice to see these young guys doing well for the Mariners like Smoak, Ackley and Miller. Hope they can break through. You gotta go back to Jose Lopez the last time the Mariners produced a home grown All-Star position player.
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The fuck did Jose Lopez make an all-star team? Did all the other AL SS get FBA(RIP RACE)?
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Made it in 2006 and deserved it at the time. Fell apart second half of the season though.
 
wilson had a great year in texas and hasn't done much since. Last year their back end was garrett richards and joe blanton for a portion of the year. You can spend as much on hitting as you want but it won't matter if you can't pitch
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Hard to win when you don't draft well or develop your youngsters. They hit a grand slam with Trout but other than him their system is dog shit. Reminds me of the Mariners during the Bavasi years so you can spend, spend and spend some more but if you don't have a good farm system you won't win.
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you're totally right on that one. Outside of trout and trumbo zilch
 
the angels pitching is a fucking dreckfest, their bullpen is trash, wilson and weaver are both not what they used to be, and the back end is a complete unknown. Good job arte, spend a gazzilion bucks on Pujols and Hamilton when you can be spending it on pitching
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He paid Wilson too. Gave him a 5 year 77 million when he isn't even close to being an ace.

Nice to see these young guys doing well for the Mariners like Smoak, Ackley and Miller. Hope they can break through. You gotta go back to Jose Lopez the last time the Mariners produced a home grown All-Star position player.
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The fuck did Jose Lopez make an all-star team? Did all the other AL SS get FBA(RIP RACE)?
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Made it in 2006 and deserved it at the time. Fell apart second half of the season though.
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All Mariners seasons since 2001 have become a large, depressing blur of shitty hitting, horrible trades, alcohol, and wishing football started in July.
 
First two game national championship banner is hung!!!

You know...like the offseason one. You all get it right?

Seriously though the Ms might have something going. Ackley already put it together and Smoak might be. There's some pretty steady bats in the lineup. They're a threat.

And that shortstop hit one out in like 1/100th of a second tonight in the 8th. Jeez that fucker was crushed. I might still be blinded by how awesome that was. How many wins is one kickass homer in a game that was already won worth?
 
wilson had a great year in texas and hasn't done much since. Last year their back end was garrett richards and joe blanton for a portion of the year. You can spend as much on hitting as you want but it won't matter if you can't pitch
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See the Mariners (96-99). They had the best lineup in the league with A-Rod, Griffey, Edgar, and Buhner, but had no pitching outside of Randy Johnson. Even Russ Davis was hitting 20 HR's a season. Remember how bad the fucking bullpen was?

 
my formula to winning baseball is
1 superstar in the lineup, 1 upper tier player who isn't a star, with some role players/above average hitters
4 deep in the rotation
great back end of the bullpen
That's why my WS is the Nats (ILTCTT) and the Rays.
Nationals have Strasburg Gonzalez Zimmerman Fister (great 1-2-3-4) Harper along with zimmerman and/or desmond, along with Laroche, Ramos and some guys like that. And then a back end that includes Clippard, Soriano, Storen, ossai, etc.
The Rays have Price, Cobb, Moore, Archer. A superstar in Longoria, a close to star in Wil Myers, with some role players like Zobrist, Jennings, etc. And then a back end with Balfour Peralta McGee.
That's how you win (see 2010, 2012 giants) not by piling up on superstar hitters like the angels, rangers, yankees, etc.
I will say the Tigers and Dodgers will be tough to beat but I don't like the tigers bullpen, and everyone is going with LA so I wanted to mix it up a bit.
 
wilson had a great year in texas and hasn't done much since. Last year their back end was garrett richards and joe blanton for a portion of the year. You can spend as much on hitting as you want but it won't matter if you can't pitch
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See the Mariners (96-99). They had the best lineup in the league with A-Rod, Griffey, Edgar, and Buhner, but had no pitching outside of Randy Johnson. Even Russ Davis was hitting 20 HR's a season. Remember how bad the fucking bullpen was?
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If you're going to bash Bobby Ayala then I AM OUT!!!!!
 
wilson had a great year in texas and hasn't done much since. Last year their back end was garrett richards and joe blanton for a portion of the year. You can spend as much on hitting as you want but it won't matter if you can't pitch
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See the Mariners (96-99). They had the best lineup in the league with A-Rod, Griffey, Edgar, and Buhner, but had no pitching outside of Randy Johnson. Even Russ Davis was hitting 20 HR's a season. Remember how bad the fucking bullpen was?
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They did make that awesome trade for Heathcliff Slowcum, so there's that
 
they are not a playoff team, but they right now look the part of at least a 500 team.
Santiago was a tough assignment for them and they ran him in the 6th and feasted on the angels dogshit bullpen.
While the contract is absurd Cano is making a difference in the lineup
 
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