Portland and Seattle, Washington and Oregon - those are the same things. If you think the place you’re taking shits is better or different then you’re wrong.
Same shit. Trees, rain, hobos. Just a few degrees latitude difference. Amazon, Microsoft, Intel, Nike. Same shit.
Sales tax and pumping gas are the difference, that’s it. We have to rely on our football teams to tell us what is better.
Seattle is objectively superior to Portland, and I say this as someone who hates both cities.
Same exact shit. It’s the same city, just two hours away. I have to spend time in both, and there’s no difference. Portland has better food, Seattle is less stabby.
As someone who likes both Seattle and Portland, they are way fucking different
Seattle is an international city with a fuckton of business and construction going on. It feels like living in a big city to live here and work downtown
Portland is what you get if you combined Tacoma, Eugene, and Spokane. Fun to visit and go to clubs in. Not a big city feeling. Walking around feels like youre in Tacoma.
Not to mention there's a significant difference in geography (sorry creep) throughout the rest of each respective state. The sound and islands are uniquely WA, and there's an actual mountain range running through the spine of the state. OR meanwhile has a developed coast line that WA doesn't have, yet outside of a few isolated peaks, lacks an actual range. Then there's the huge differences between the two cities that you brought up.
I'm not going to dive into the dick measuring contest between the two, but it's incredibly stupid to try to make the case that the two states are one and the same. They're not. This is not an Iowa versus Nebraska case study.
There's an actual mountain range running through Oregon. The difference in actual height of the range is hard to discern and is a detail to the average outdoorsman. Agreed on the Sound. Coastal Oregon is just better than coastal Washington except for the ONP stretch which competes well, but Oregon wins the coast thing hands down, and not just because of development.
They are not exactly the same but they share many, many similarities. Oregon has a lot of very beautiful wilderness areas ... that was the point of my post. Two idiots once tried to make this an actual debate, when there's really nothing to debate.
About 1/2 dozen of my favorite places in the world are in Washington and about 1/2 dozen are in Oregon. The Sound is pretty to look at but island life in the Sound, and the Sound itself, isn't in my wheelhouse. We like to take a ferry ride now and then but I'm a freshwater guy up here and a salt water guy in the tropics. Never, ever the other way around.