Derek Johnson has a warning for Duck fans, after Oregon's epic loss to TCU on Saturday night.
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Oregon better grab Chip Kelly right now, or else be Damned to Helfrich
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Derek Johnson has a warning for Duck fans, after Oregon's epic loss to TCU on Saturday night.
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I read it.
A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise.
A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise.
I read it.
A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise.
I wrote it quick. I'll go find said error and fix. Thank you.
I read it.
A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise.
I wrote it quick. I'll go find said error and fix. Thank you.
I figured you wrote it quickly. I'm just being my jackass self.
I read it.
A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise.
I wrote it quick. I'll go find said error and fix. Thank you.
I figured you wrote it quickly. I'm just being my jackass self.
I usually hold myself to a high standard.
MelloDawg
New Fish
I read it.
A typo and a repeat sentence, but good summary otherwise.
I wrote it quick. I'll go find said error and fix. Thank you.
I figured you wrote it quickly. I'm just being my jackass self.
I usually hold myself to a high standard.
Except for this place where regulars are lucky to be able to string 2 coherent sentences together
Where's Shawn Alexander and the NAACP protecting DP?
Shaun Alexander likes being DP'ed.
BallSacked
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@AZDuck true?!?!?!?
NeGgaPlEaSe
New Fish
No fucking way. If History has taught us 1 thing that is college sports goes in cycles. Miami is down, Michigan was down, Ohio state was down, fuck even Kentucky basketball was down. That bowl loss was embarrassing if anything and should hurt recruiting
Oregon and Stanford will return to earth
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Tequilla
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1) Why warn Oregon about their impending "doom"
2) If it wasn't already obvious to Oregon fans, supporters, donors, AD, and Uncle Phil that Slingblade wasn't the right guy, they're entering Pat Haden territory
3) The idea that people have of handing the ball to the same RB 30-40x per game week in and week out isn't consistent with the way that football is played today and borders on dinosaur thinking
5) To say that Oregon should have just run the football isn't paying attention to what actually happened in the game. Comments that people make that are over generalizations about what a coach should do acting like he shouldn't do that is one of my pet peeves and really fucking bothers me. It's fine to play arm chair QB, but get your facts straight when you do so versus just popping off just because something didn't work out. Oregon's drives in the 2nd half are as follows:
Drive #1:
1st down: Run Freeman for 6 yards
2nd down: Fumbled snap for -20 yards
3rd down: Run Freeman for 3 yards
Drive #2:
Fumbled Kickoff
Drive #3:
1st Down: Freeman run for 6 yards
2nd Down: Freeman run for 4 yards, First Down
1st Down: Freeman run for 8 yards
2nd Down: Freeman run for 6 yards, First Down
1st Down: Freeman run for 4 yards
2nd Down: Benoit run for 2 yards
3rd Down: Fumbled snap for -5 yards
Drive #4:
1st Down: Lockie pass to Addison for -1 yards
2nd Down: Freeman for 4 yards
3rd Down: Lockie incomplete
Drive #5:
1st Down: Freeman for 1 yard
2nd Down: Lockie incomplete
3rd Down: Lockie incomplete
Drive #6:
Short drive to run out the clock
Drive #7, First Overtime:
1st Down: Freeman for 5 yards
2nd Down: Lockie for 1 yard
3rd Down: Lockie incomplete
4th Down: Lockie pass to Freeman for 17 yards
1st Down: Freeman for 1 yard
2nd Down: Freeman for 1 yard, TD
Drive #8, Second Overtime:
1st Down: Lockie incomplete
2nd Down: Nelson for no gain
3rd Down: Lockie to Addison for -2 yards
Drive #9, Third Overtime:
1st Down: Lockie incomplete
2nd Down: Freeman for 8 yards
3rd Down: Fumbled snap for -5 yards
4th Down: Lockie incomplete
By my count, Oregon ran 29 meaningful snaps in the 2nd half. Of those 29, Freeman got the ball either as a runner or receiver 14 of those 29 plays with 3 of the 29 plays fumbled snaps that may or may not have gone to Freeman. The reality is that Oregon's offense with Lockie all year sucked in so many ways largely driven by the fact that they didn't trust anything in the passing game and therefore turned to the RBs (because they didn't trust Lockie to run) ... and defenses knew it. I don't care how talented you are, when teams don't have to respect areas of other teams and can make them one dimensional, they tend to be fairly easy to contain. And anybody that has paid an ounce of attention to TCU's maligned defense this year, this has been the case at Oklahoma once Mayfield was injured, against Baylor as soon as the weather got as shitty as I've ever experienced at a game rendering the passing game useless, and then last night when they didn't have to respect Lockie's ability to beat them with his arm.
2) If it wasn't already obvious to Oregon fans, supporters, donors, AD, and Uncle Phil that Slingblade wasn't the right guy, they're entering Pat Haden territory
3) The idea that people have of handing the ball to the same RB 30-40x per game week in and week out isn't consistent with the way that football is played today and borders on dinosaur thinking
5) To say that Oregon should have just run the football isn't paying attention to what actually happened in the game. Comments that people make that are over generalizations about what a coach should do acting like he shouldn't do that is one of my pet peeves and really fucking bothers me. It's fine to play arm chair QB, but get your facts straight when you do so versus just popping off just because something didn't work out. Oregon's drives in the 2nd half are as follows:
Drive #1:
1st down: Run Freeman for 6 yards
2nd down: Fumbled snap for -20 yards
3rd down: Run Freeman for 3 yards
Drive #2:
Fumbled Kickoff
Drive #3:
1st Down: Freeman run for 6 yards
2nd Down: Freeman run for 4 yards, First Down
1st Down: Freeman run for 8 yards
2nd Down: Freeman run for 6 yards, First Down
1st Down: Freeman run for 4 yards
2nd Down: Benoit run for 2 yards
3rd Down: Fumbled snap for -5 yards
Drive #4:
1st Down: Lockie pass to Addison for -1 yards
2nd Down: Freeman for 4 yards
3rd Down: Lockie incomplete
Drive #5:
1st Down: Freeman for 1 yard
2nd Down: Lockie incomplete
3rd Down: Lockie incomplete
Drive #6:
Short drive to run out the clock
Drive #7, First Overtime:
1st Down: Freeman for 5 yards
2nd Down: Lockie for 1 yard
3rd Down: Lockie incomplete
4th Down: Lockie pass to Freeman for 17 yards
1st Down: Freeman for 1 yard
2nd Down: Freeman for 1 yard, TD
Drive #8, Second Overtime:
1st Down: Lockie incomplete
2nd Down: Nelson for no gain
3rd Down: Lockie to Addison for -2 yards
Drive #9, Third Overtime:
1st Down: Lockie incomplete
2nd Down: Freeman for 8 yards
3rd Down: Fumbled snap for -5 yards
4th Down: Lockie incomplete
By my count, Oregon ran 29 meaningful snaps in the 2nd half. Of those 29, Freeman got the ball either as a runner or receiver 14 of those 29 plays with 3 of the 29 plays fumbled snaps that may or may not have gone to Freeman. The reality is that Oregon's offense with Lockie all year sucked in so many ways largely driven by the fact that they didn't trust anything in the passing game and therefore turned to the RBs (because they didn't trust Lockie to run) ... and defenses knew it. I don't care how talented you are, when teams don't have to respect areas of other teams and can make them one dimensional, they tend to be fairly easy to contain. And anybody that has paid an ounce of attention to TCU's maligned defense this year, this has been the case at Oklahoma once Mayfield was injured, against Baylor as soon as the weather got as shitty as I've ever experienced at a game rendering the passing game useless, and then last night when they didn't have to respect Lockie's ability to beat them with his arm.
HFNY
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Agreed. Better to focus on UW getting better to hasten Oregon's decline.
Oregon clearly doesn't have capable back-ups to step in at QB and C. They hit free agency and brought in VAJ and Hegarty but both got hurt in the bowl game and Oregon crumpled. Most damning is that TCU didn't even get Boykin for a half and their starting center was out too but they found a way to win.
I like Oregon's RBs and WRs but I'm guessing their OL will take a step back in 2016 and that will put more pressure on their new transfer QB. I doubt he'll be as slippery as VAJ which means more sacks for the new QB rather than VAJ ducking / spinning before throwing a bomb.
Probably worse though is that their D loses all of their above average players (especially Buckner) except for Charles Nelson. Mondeaux could be good as a starter next year (maybe they'll have a guy like Greg Gaines come out of nowhere).
Oregon clearly doesn't have capable back-ups to step in at QB and C. They hit free agency and brought in VAJ and Hegarty but both got hurt in the bowl game and Oregon crumpled. Most damning is that TCU didn't even get Boykin for a half and their starting center was out too but they found a way to win.
I like Oregon's RBs and WRs but I'm guessing their OL will take a step back in 2016 and that will put more pressure on their new transfer QB. I doubt he'll be as slippery as VAJ which means more sacks for the new QB rather than VAJ ducking / spinning before throwing a bomb.
Probably worse though is that their D loses all of their above average players (especially Buckner) except for Charles Nelson. Mondeaux could be good as a starter next year (maybe they'll have a guy like Greg Gaines come out of nowhere).
