One of the many quaint beliefs the Left has about the US is that it's a relatively low-tax country

[PurpleThrobber]

So Americans are highly taxed or nah?

naht those bitching about their taxes on this bored.

You can't claim that the US is a low tax country though, as was the original point of the discussion.

Certainly not low taxed if we consider the imagined rates you all pay.

Still focused only on federal income tax?

No. But most of you start this discussion off by wildly [/b] overestimating your effective rate of federal taxation.

Divide line 24 by line 9.

It’s hard if you’re a dumbshit like you. Like I said. A person making $143k pays about 18% federal income tax and another 15% in FICA/Medicare (you’d be a dumbfuck to argue it’s half that, so I wouldn’t be surprised if you did). That’s an effective rate of ~33%.

Why $143k, that’s the amount we’re FICA ends, so the rate goes down to 3%, but the person would be looking at higher marginal rates past that (32% at $164k). A person making $164k would pay ~19%, but would get a cut on FICA of 12% on about 20k, so about 1.5% reduction on their gross, so we are back to around 33%.

Fuck off. We pay a shit ton in taxes. Add state and local and we get very close to European rates.

Can I get a what what for some property taxes, sin taxes on booze/smokes and oppressive sales tax too?!?!

Car tabs, tax on your sewer,water, natural gas electric, phone, Internet, TV, gasoline…..

Hotel rooms. Airport fees.

WEED!!!!!

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

Did anyone actually tell you to go fuck yourself?

Go fuck yourself.

 

[HHusky]

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

I notice you completely ignored my other comment. Real head scratcher as to why.

So your answer is No.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

I notice you completely ignored my other comment. Real head scratcher as to why.

So your answer is No.

No, but I'll play, suppose *we don't pay "high taxes" because we are poors.

Do you think we should be paying higher taxes commensurate with spending?

 

[pawz]

So Americans are highly taxed or nah?

naht those bitching about their taxes on this bored.

You can't claim that the US is a low tax country though, as was the original point of the discussion.

Certainly not low taxed if we consider the imagined rates you all pay.

Still focused only on federal income tax?

No. But most of you start this discussion off by wildly [/b] overestimating your effective rate of federal taxation.

Divide line 24 by line 9.

It’s hard if you’re a dumbshit like you. Like I said. A person making $143k pays about 18% federal income tax and another 15% in FICA/Medicare (you’d be a dumbfuck to argue it’s half that, so I wouldn’t be surprised if you did). That’s an effective rate of ~33%.

Why $143k, that’s the amount we’re FICA ends, so the rate goes down to 3%, but the person would be looking at higher marginal rates past that (32% at $164k). A person making $164k would pay ~19%, but would get a cut on FICA of 12% on about 20k, so about 1.5% reduction on their gross, so we are back to around 33%.

Fuck off. We pay a shit ton in taxes. Add state and local and we get very close to European rates.

Can I get a what what for some property taxes, sin taxes on booze/smokes and oppressive sales tax too?!?!

Car tabs, tax on your sewer,water, natural gas electric, phone, Internet, TV, gasoline…..

Hotel rooms. Airport fees.

WEED!!!!!

Weed is 47.5%.

No shit. Essential service indeed.

 

[MikeDamone]

My effective tax rate is 36%.

Fuck off.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

My effective tax rate is 36%.

Fuck off.

The dazzler still won't deal with the all important marginal tax rates. The economy can't expand without investment. As even the dazzler has reluctantly admitted that investment decision are made using the marginal tax rate. The higher the marginal tax rate, the lower the after tax cash flow which generates the after tax rate of return. Then toss in inflation. Inflation brings risk into the investment decision. The more inflation uncertainty, the more risk and the more risk requires a higher rate of return. That's why businesses are leaving California and moving to Texas. Building a new plant in Texas is cheaper and the business tax rate is substantially lower and their in no state personal income tax. When you want to punish profitable US based businesses, they have the alternative of leaving the US, and moving their investment offshore.

Anyone still think the dazzler has an MBA?

 

[HHusky]

My effective tax rate is 36%.

Fuck off.

The dazzler still won't deal with the all important marginal tax rates. The economy can't expand without investment. As even the dazzler has reluctantly admitted that investment decision are made using the marginal tax rate. The higher the marginal tax rate, the lower the after tax cash flow which generates the after tax rate of return. Then toss in inflation. Inflation brings risk into the investment decision. The more inflation uncertainty, the more risk and the more risk requires a higher rate of return. That's why businesses are leaving California and moving to Texas. Building a new plant in Texas is cheaper and the business tax rate is substantially lower and their in no state personal income tax. When you want to punish profitable US based businesses, they have the alternative of leaving the US, and moving their investment offshore.

Anyone still think the dazzler has an MBA?

Off topic. Start your own thread, Gasbag.

 

[HHusky]

My effective tax rate is 36%.

Fuck off.

Bull fucking shit.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

My effective tax rate is 36%.

Fuck off.

The dazzler still won't deal with the all important marginal tax rates. The economy can't expand without investment. As even the dazzler has reluctantly admitted that investment decision are made using the marginal tax rate. The higher the marginal tax rate, the lower the after tax cash flow which generates the after tax rate of return. Then toss in inflation. Inflation brings risk into the investment decision. The more inflation uncertainty, the more risk and the more risk requires a higher rate of return. That's why businesses are leaving California and moving to Texas. Building a new plant in Texas is cheaper and the business tax rate is substantially lower and their in no state personal income tax. When you want to punish profitable US based businesses, they have the alternative of leaving the US, and moving their investment offshore.

Anyone still think the dazzler has an MBA?

Off topic. Start your own thread, Gasbag.

Yeah, when you are demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge regarding effective rates and marginal rates, I'd say "off topic" as a deflection point.

 

[RaceBannon]

My effective tax rate is 36%.

Fuck off.

Bull fucking shit.

Typical leftist

Who are you going to believe your lying eyes or what the left tells you?

 

[HHusky]

My effective tax rate is 36%.

Fuck off.

The dazzler still won't deal with the all important marginal tax rates. The economy can't expand without investment. As even the dazzler has reluctantly admitted that investment decision are made using the marginal tax rate. The higher the marginal tax rate, the lower the after tax cash flow which generates the after tax rate of return. Then toss in inflation. Inflation brings risk into the investment decision. The more inflation uncertainty, the more risk and the more risk requires a higher rate of return. That's why businesses are leaving California and moving to Texas. Building a new plant in Texas is cheaper and the business tax rate is substantially lower and their in no state personal income tax. When you want to punish profitable US based businesses, they have the alternative of leaving the US, and moving their investment offshore.

Anyone still think the dazzler has an MBA?

Off topic. Start your own thread, Gasbag.

Yeah, when you are demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge regarding effective rates and marginal rates, I'd say "off topic" as a deflection point.

Yet the topic is effective rates and the wildly exaggerated claims you girls make about them.

 

[HHusky]

My effective tax rate is 36%.

Fuck off.

Bull fucking shit.

Typical leftist

Who are you going to believe your lying eyes or what the left tells you?

14% in the house!

 

[RaceBannon]

Meltdown

 

[HHusky]

Meltdown

ok

 

[RaceBannon]

Calm down now

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

I notice you completely ignored my other comment. Real head scratcher as to why.

So your answer is No.

No, but I'll play, suppose *we don't pay "high taxes" because we are poors.

Do you think we should be paying higher taxes commensurate with spending?

So no answer. White flag.

 

[HHusky]

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?

You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.

I notice you completely ignored my other comment. Real head scratcher as to why.

So your answer is No.

No, but I'll play, suppose *we don't pay "high taxes" because we are poors.

Do you think we should be paying higher taxes commensurate with spending?

So no answer. White flag.

You couldn’t tell my answer is Yes?

That’s on you.

In general, we should raise the money we want to spend. And we should raise it from those who have it.

 

[HHusky]

Calm down now

namaste

 

[Doogles]

Can't trust my lying eyes