One of the many quaint beliefs the Left has about the US is that it's a relatively low-tax country

[SFGbob]

If you invested $100 in the S&P 500 at the beginning of 1980, you would have about $11,675.29 at the beginning of 2021, assuming you reinvested all dividends. This is a return on investment of 11,575.29%, or 12.10% per year.[/i][/b]

Now add up every dollar you've paid into SS along with your employer's contribution and then do the math providing for compound interest. Even a middle class person would have millions in retirement and you'd also be holding a tangible asset you could give to your family when you died.

Now think about what you could do about encouraging home ownership if you allowed people to use that money for a first time home purchase. What would happen if you did the exact same thing for healthcare? Make people invest a small percentage of their earning in a simple index fund when they are young and healthy and then let them build that for their entire working life.

But that's not the system that Dazzler and the leeches he votes for wants. That system wouldn't encourage dependency on the government. That system would encourage people to be in favor of a healthy fiscal and investment climate that would encourage growth.

 

[HHusky]

Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.

US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads

I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.

Bullshit. No you don’t.

I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?

There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.

Is there a chance that you missed the point of the discussion?

You don’t want to pay European tax rates and you don’t receive European benefits. You especially don’t want me paying European rates . . . ‘cuz socialism, of course.

Why do you think we just need more taxes?

Because the money is already spent. There is not a chance in Hell any of you rock ribbed “conservatives” isn’t going to accept your entitlements.

If they would have let me opted out of that fucking Ponzi scheme as late as my 50th birthday I would have gladly opted out of SS. Got my SS statement in the mail the other day list from me how much of my and my employers money they've been stealing from us since the beginning of my work years. I'd easily have additional millions in retirement funds if they would have put the money in a simple index fund.

But no one was willing to change that. Which has been my message to you for literally decades. It ain’t ever happening.

You and the people you vote for weren't willing to change it.

You mean RR? GHWB? GWB?

They all got elected.

 

[SFGbob]

Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.

US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads

I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.

Bullshit. No you don’t.

I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?

There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.

Is there a chance that you missed the point of the discussion?

You don’t want to pay European tax rates and you don’t receive European benefits. You especially don’t want me paying European rates . . . ‘cuz socialism, of course.

Why do you think we just need more taxes?

Because the money is already spent. There is not a chance in Hell any of you rock ribbed “conservatives” isn’t going to accept your entitlements.

If they would have let me opted out of that fucking Ponzi scheme as late as my 50th birthday I would have gladly opted out of SS. Got my SS statement in the mail the other day list from me how much of my and my employers money they've been stealing from us since the beginning of my work years. I'd easily have additional millions in retirement funds if they would have put the money in a simple index fund.

But no one was willing to change that. Which has been my message to you for literally decades. It ain’t ever happening.

You and the people you vote for weren't willing to change it.

You mean RR? GHWB? GWB?

They all got elected.

Reagan and W both wanted to change it.

 

[RaceBannon]

Congress controls the purse for those playing at home

Some of our contestants are dumb as a rock here

 

[hardhat]

Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.

US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads

I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.

Bullshit. No you don’t.

I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?

There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.

Is there a chance that you missed the point of the discussion?

You don’t want to pay European tax rates and you don’t receive European benefits. You especially don’t want me paying European rates . . . ‘cuz socialism, of course.

Why do you think we just need more taxes?

Because the money is already spent. There is not a chance in Hell any of you rock ribbed “conservatives” isn’t going to accept your entitlements.

If they would have let me opted out of that fucking Ponzi scheme as late as my 50th birthday I would have gladly opted out of SS. Got my SS statement in the mail the other day list from me how much of my and my employers money they've been stealing from us since the beginning of my work years. I'd easily have additional millions in retirement funds if they would have put the money in a simple index fund.

But no one was willing to change that. Which has been my message to you for literally decades. It ain’t ever happening.

You seem focused on federal income taxes. Washington state just levied a .6% payroll tax that is allegedly for long-term care, but after analysis it doesn't seem to help much. I don't remember voting on it. State and local taxes are part of the overall tax burden.

 

[SFGbob]

Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.

 

[Doogles]

I pay over 30% wtf are you talking about?

That's with 401k hiding as much as possible (for now)

Effective [/b] rate? Bullshit.

It's not a complex formula. I make X and get taxed Y

Y % X = over 30

I'm not some ultra wealthy dude who owns a ton of shit and has accountants hiding money everywhere. I'm pretty much Joe America Middle who gets raped for damn near 1/3 of his paycheck.

Also, back to the point, this wouldn't be such a tough pill to swallow if the money actually did shit.

It's boondoggle after boondoggle out here. We're building 150 billion dollar train from Bakersfield to Merced while complaining about water shortages. You could spend half that money on an aquaduct that solves the problem for good, but we won't.

It's frustrating as fuck, but people like you rush to defend your Masters and want to give them more.

 

[Pitchfork51]

I want to take the entitlements of people I dont like so I have more and they are miserable

 

[WestlinnDuck]

I pay over 30% wtf are you talking about?

That's with 401k hiding as much as possible (for now)

Effective [/b] rate? Bullshit.

It's not a complex formula. I make X and get taxed Y

Y % X = over 30

I'm not some ultra wealthy dude who owns a ton of shit and has accountants hiding money everywhere. I'm pretty much Joe America Middle who gets raped for damn near 1/3 of his paycheck.

Also, back to the point, this wouldn't be such a tough pill to swallow if the money actually did shit.

It's boondoggle after boondoggle out here. We're building 150 billion dollar train from Bakersfield to Merced while complaining about water shortages. You could spend half that money on an aquaduct that solves the problem for good, but we won't.

It's frustrating as fuck, but people like you rush to defend your Masters and want to give them more.

Look at the the hundreds of billions we throw at public education and we have absolutely nothing to show for it. In fact, a large percentage of kids end up with a negative education. Just look at the slobberer. West Linn spends over $15,000 a year per student. So, a class of 25 12 year olds has $375,000 to spend. Where does it go? And then the phuckers are screaming for more money.

 

[HHusky]

Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.

US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads

I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.

Bullshit. No you don’t.

I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?

There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.

Is there a chance that you missed the point of the discussion?

You don’t want to pay European tax rates and you don’t receive European benefits. You especially don’t want me paying European rates . . . ‘cuz socialism, of course.

Why do you think we just need more taxes?

Because the money is already spent. There is not a chance in Hell any of you rock ribbed “conservatives” isn’t going to accept your entitlements.

If they would have let me opted out of that fucking Ponzi scheme as late as my 50th birthday I would have gladly opted out of SS. Got my SS statement in the mail the other day list from me how much of my and my employers money they've been stealing from us since the beginning of my work years. I'd easily have additional millions in retirement funds if they would have put the money in a simple index fund.

But no one was willing to change that. Which has been my message to you for literally decades. It ain’t ever happening.

You and the people you vote for weren't willing to change it.

You mean RR? GHWB? GWB?

They all got elected.

Reagan and W both wanted to change it.

And what happened? Exactly what I told you would happen.

 

[HHusky]

I pay over 30% wtf are you talking about?

That's with 401k hiding as much as possible (for now)

Effective [/b] rate? Bullshit.

It's not a complex formula. I make X and get taxed Y

Y % X = over 30

I'm not some ultra wealthy dude who owns a ton of shit and has accountants hiding money everywhere. I'm pretty much Joe America Middle who gets raped for damn near 1/3 of his paycheck.

Also, back to the point, this wouldn't be such a tough pill to swallow if the money actually did shit.

It's boondoggle after boondoggle out here. We're building 150 billion dollar train from Bakersfield to Merced while complaining about water shortages. You could spend half that money on an aquaduct that solves the problem for good, but we won't.

It's frustrating as fuck, but people like you rush to defend your Masters and want to give them more.

You’re either being too modest or you’re being obtuse.

Anyway, I hear you richies are all fleeing to Texas. Got your place in Fort Worth yet.

 

[hardhat]

I want to take the entitlements of people I dont like so I have more and they are miserable

So you’re like, a progressive?

 

[HHusky]

Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.

US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads

I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.

Bullshit. No you don’t.

I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?

There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.

Is there a chance that you missed the point of the discussion?

You don’t want to pay European tax rates and you don’t receive European benefits. You especially don’t want me paying European rates . . . ‘cuz socialism, of course.

Why do you think we just need more taxes?

Because the money is already spent. There is not a chance in Hell any of you rock ribbed “conservatives” isn’t going to accept your entitlements.

If they would have let me opted out of that fucking Ponzi scheme as late as my 50th birthday I would have gladly opted out of SS. Got my SS statement in the mail the other day list from me how much of my and my employers money they've been stealing from us since the beginning of my work years. I'd easily have additional millions in retirement funds if they would have put the money in a simple index fund.

But no one was willing to change that. Which has been my message to you for literally decades. It ain’t ever happening.

You seem focused on federal income taxes. Washington state just levied a .6% payroll tax that is allegedly for long-term care, but after analysis it doesn't seem to help much. I don't remember voting on it. State and local taxes are part of the overall tax burden.

So plus 0.6%. And?

 

[GrundleStiltzkin]

http://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1460369513518714881?t=PjlC4GyFVdZogkCUbN5Ydw&s=19

What kind of a dumbfuck votes for this?

H? Thoughts?

That is fucking embarrassing.

 

[HHusky]

Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.

You wouldn’t have done it.

 

[RaceBannon]

Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.

You wouldn’t have done it.

Neither did your lord and masters of the state

Obtuse or just plain stupid

 

[SFGbob]

Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.

US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads

I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.

Bullshit. No you don’t.

I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?

There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.

Is there a chance that you missed the point of the discussion?

You don’t want to pay European tax rates and you don’t receive European benefits. You especially don’t want me paying European rates . . . ‘cuz socialism, of course.

Why do you think we just need more taxes?

Because the money is already spent. There is not a chance in Hell any of you rock ribbed “conservatives” isn’t going to accept your entitlements.

If they would have let me opted out of that fucking Ponzi scheme as late as my 50th birthday I would have gladly opted out of SS. Got my SS statement in the mail the other day list from me how much of my and my employers money they've been stealing from us since the beginning of my work years. I'd easily have additional millions in retirement funds if they would have put the money in a simple index fund.

But no one was willing to change that. Which has been my message to you for literally decades. It ain’t ever happening.

You and the people you vote for weren't willing to change it.

You mean RR? GHWB? GWB?

They all got elected.

Reagan and W both wanted to change it.

And what happened? Exactly what I told you would happen.

Yes, because people like you don't support it and then you vote for people who oppose it.

 

[SFGbob]

Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.

You wouldn’t have done it.

What the fuck are you talking about? I was forced to put my money into Social Security. Why not give people the choice of putting that money into a simple index fund? And hell yes I would have done it. The benefits of the system I want would have been obvious to everyone. Only the true parasites who don't want to work would pick Social Security/Government Welfare.

 

[SFGbob]

http://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1460369513518714881?t=PjlC4GyFVdZogkCUbN5Ydw&s=19

What kind of a dumbfuck votes for this?

H? Thoughts?

That is fucking embarrassing.

What are they talking about? I was told that the program wouldn't cost anyone anything.

 

[HHusky]

Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.

You wouldn’t have done it.

What the fuck are you talking about? I was forced to put my money into Social Security. Why not give people the choice of putting that money into a simple index fund? And hell yes I would have done it. The benefits of the system I want would have been obvious to everyone. Only the true parasites who don't want to work would pick Social Security/Government Welfare.

People who don’t work collect a lot of SS do they?