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First year coach inherits a 6-6 team and goes 2-6 the first year...That would be Nick Saban in his first year at Bama.

First year at LSU he took a 3-8 team and won 8 games.

Not saying DeBoner is Saban, so don't twist but I'm still Team DeBoner and giving him through next year to get his guys in there and a new defense. Hearing PK may be available....

 
First year coach inherits an 11-3 team. Goes 2-7 his first year. That coach was Dave Aranda. Don’t twist.
 
I think it premature to give up on DeBoer half way through his first season. The offensive transformation and his track record of success wherever he has been point to his likely success at UW.

But if his offense can be a positive, then his defense should be a red flag. They are bad in a way not seen in a long, long time. With the offense we have, the defense doesn't need to be lights out. But it is unrealistic to expect our offense to carry the D when the D can only get 2 legitimate stops per game.

With an average or even slightly below average D, we would be sitting at 6-0 right now. Instead, we are in the opposite position of the past when our amazing D was wasted by a putrid O.

The good news is that it doesn't appear that this is a chronic problem for him at other places he has coached. History says this should get turned around. But the fact that after 6 weeks our DB's still don't know who to cover and it seems that on every passing play there is someone open without a purple jersey within 10 yards of them leaves me somewhat skeptical.

 
I think it premature to give up on DeBoer half way through his first season. The offensive transformation and his track record of success wherever he has been point to his likely success at UW.

But if his offense can be a positive, then his defense should be a red flag. They are bad in a way not seen in a long, long time. With the offense we have, the defense doesn't need to be lights out. But it is unrealistic to expect our offense to carry the D when the D can only get 2 legitimate stops per game.

With an average or even slightly below average D, we would be sitting at 6-0 right now. Instead, we are in the opposite position of the past when our amazing D was wasted by a putrid O.

The good news is that it doesn't appear that this is a chronic problem for him at other places he has coached. History says this should get turned around. But the fact that after 6 weeks our DB's still don't know who to cover and it seems that on every passing play there is someone open without a purple jersey within 10 yards of them leaves me somewhat skeptical.
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Im still a Deboner Loaner Man, what he's done with the offense has been great, they have been in position to win every game, now! The defense is trash, I think he will do whatever it takes to field a good defense, enough said on that
 
"We" have been bitching about the offense forever, and praising the D. Now, the O is "good", and the D sucks...I'm team LIPO...
 
Just like Don James Nick Saban Urban Meyer Kirk Ferentz Bear Bryant[/s] the more things change the more they stay the same
 
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Despite how Nega I sounded on the podcast, I'm still letting it play out. That said, Saturday is a damn near must win game against fucking Arizona. Lose and there's a chance the wheels come off.

For a gleaming moment I thought there might be a complete turnaround under Deboer and compete to win a crappy Pac-12.
I'm now back to reality and eight or nine wins is probably a realistic goal with hopefully an upset over Oregon somehow in there. The best teams in the Pac-12 are all better than I thought they would be and that's part of it.

The offense is watchable for the first time in a long time. As much as it sucks to trade terrible offense for terrible defense I'd still rather watch this and feel like they have a better chance to win games than if it was all defense and the game was over once they got behind.

I don't feel like they would be doing any better with Campbell or Wilcox.
 
Despite how Nega I sounded on the podcast, I'm still letting it play out. That said, Saturday is a damn near must win game against fucking Arizona. Lose and there's a chance the wheels come off.

For a gleaming moment I thought there might be a complete turnaround under Deboer and compete to win a crappy Pac-12.
I'm now back to reality and eight or nine wins is probably a realistic goal with hopefully an upset over Oregon somehow in there. The best teams in the Pac-12 are all better than I thought they would be and that's part of it.

The offense is watchable for the first time in a long time. As much as it sucks to trade terrible offense for terrible defense I'd still rather watch this and feel like they have a better chance to win games than if it was all defense and the game was over once they got behind.

I don't feel like they would be doing any better with Campbell or Wilcox.
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My concern is that the defensive players are completely out of position and zero clue on scheme
 
Despite how Nega I sounded on the podcast, I'm still letting it play out. That said, Saturday is a damn near must win game against fucking Arizona. Lose and there's a chance the wheels come off.

For a gleaming moment I thought there might be a complete turnaround under Deboer and compete to win a crappy Pac-12.
I'm now back to reality and eight or nine wins is probably a realistic goal with hopefully an upset over Oregon somehow in there. The best teams in the Pac-12 are all better than I thought they would be and that's part of it.

The offense is watchable for the first time in a long time. As much as it sucks to trade terrible offense for terrible defense I'd still rather watch this and feel like they have a better chance to win games than if it was all defense and the game was over once they got behind.

I don't feel like they would be doing any better with Campbell or Wilcox.
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Oregon, at Autzen, is gonna to slaughter UW. That is a guaranteed L.
 
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