Officials

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
1to392831weretaken said:
CrispyEaterson said:
TheHB said:
the intentional grounding was clear as day. The “pick” obviously hit the ground and aided the “catch.”
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I agree with this, but struggle to see how there was indisputable evidence that the call needed to be reversed. The ball isn’t moving on the replay. Seems like one of those plays where whatever was called on the field should have stood simply because you can’t prove otherwise.
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The ball wasn't moving because it was directly between his hand and the ground. His other hand was not involved. It CLEARLY was a trap against the ground. Only annoying thing about it was that it took longer than 20 seconds to see that.

I only saw two really bad calls: I thought Mateer got away with grounding once, and Esteen baffling got away with a clear hit out of bounds on a kick return. Oh, and the crackback block that injured one of the Huskies was called but could have been called targeting for head to head.

If you don't want to cost your team 15, don't grab a facemask. It's that simple. None of those facemasks even helped in making the play, either, which makes it doubly sad.
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I disagree with you on the INT but simply because I didn’t think there’s was enough to overturn the call on the field. The face masks were dumb because as you mention, they didn’t help make the play.

The worst thing about the penalties is I read on Twatter that every WSU TD drive had UW penalties. I only remember the final drive having a penalty where the D got a stop and the penalty had nothing to do with the stop (defensive holding on Shaw). That stupid penalty (stupid on Shaw’s part, not the ref) was a kick in the nuts. WSU scored 3-4 plays later and that was the difference in the game.
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Ball hits Prysock's arms and bounces out towards his hands. He initially traps it between his right hand, grabbing the top of the ball, and his left elbow:

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Then, as he's falling, his left elbow comes out from under the ball and his right hand pushes the ball through. So hand on top and nothing under:

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He is then basically shoving the ball into the ground with his right hand:

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The evidence to overturn the call on the field was the shot above of an entire football cradled between a downward facing hand and the ground. If his left hand were on the ball at all, you could argue that the ground wasn't assisting the catch. It's not, though, and you have too perfect of a camera angle here to miss it. They had no choice but to overturn that. It was the right call.
 
For all the crappy play, UW had plenty of chances in the second half to put the game away. Even if there were some shitty calls (which there are in every fucking game).
So fuck the ref blame bullshit. UW has nowhere else to look but at themselves — starting with fucking Fisch.
 
I'm generally of the view that every game has 4 to 7 bad calls, of which at least one, often two, will be egregious. It's just the way it is.
The incidental shitty facemask 15 yard penalty (that used to require almost intent to grab) is now just part of the game. I saw maybe five of those in different games. The ones that kill me are the after-play shit. Like, please don't do that you imbecile.
 
Bitching about the wefs is part of being an unhinged fan. There's no massive smoking guy here though it certainly looks like they maybe should have been bailed out on a facemask on that terrible play especially given they were really finding them on UW earlier in the game. I'm a massive never should have changed the 5 yard with no automatic first face mask guy. To me it's like roughing the kicker versus running into.
The worst call I actually saw was not giving UW a late hit out of bounds earlier in the game. I really don't know about the int. I've felt in recent years they've gotten really generous with giving catches instead of taking them away and I'm watching games and wondering how it's a catch if the ball was on the ground or if he had the ball for 1/10th of a second with one toe down etc so I figured it was going to at least stand.
 
yeah UW definitely should have gotten a late hit call on that one. As for the non-INT, it just didn’t look like a catch from the first replay.
 
Well fuck this. Watched extended highlights and Mohammed got face masked to shit on one of his runs.
 
Is it still the college football officials are part-time employees? I get that there's complications of employee people who work like 12-15 Saturdays for 3-4 hours in the Fall but seems like there has to be more done there. With all the money going around the sport seems like it should be possible to have real officials.
 
Thanks. I am getting PTSD flashbacks from that time our TE caught it with 1 hand, palmed it, took 3 steps and reached for the end zone, crossed the plane, the ball came out, and they called it incomplete. I am still raging to this day.
 
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