Official Iran conflict game thread.

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DerekJohnson said:
Oh ese, I couldn't finish reading your post. Tucker doesn't hate Jewish people. He hates the Israeli government. Huge difference. I cannot believe how much sway the alogrithms hold over our perceptions. I have fallen victim at times too, so I'm not trying to act holier than thou. But for god's sake this take is nuts.
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You should have finished reading:
creepycoug said:
beware, they are both trying to wrap and hide their views in their "I just want what's good for America, not Israel" bullshit,
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This is the part to which you should have paid more attention instead of defending that ratings whore Tucker Carlson, who clearly licks his finger first thing in the morning to figure out which way the wind is blowing.

We are not an island. We have interests abroad and always will. Why else do you think we have diplomatic relations with the Gulf States? And so, setting history aside, in that part of the world, we have no more loyal or effective an ally than Israel, and they are getting it in every hole right now. It's not personal, Sonny. It's strictly business.

I'm not stupid. I don't know how Carlson actually feels about Jews because I don't actually know how devout he is. He is in a class of people who say shit publicly for a living. You actually never know what any of those people truly think about anything, if they actually think anything at all.

But I can tell you this: he has turned on the only place in which any Jew anywhere in the world can seek asylum from anywhere else, as they've had to over time. 16 million Jews in the world and half live there, and the other half (except for the token dip shits) view it as an important aspect of Judaism. Said another way, it is every hard to be anti-Israel w/o being at least a little anti-Jew. They've been kicked out of and persecuted in every place in Europe and every place in the middle east. This is the work-out for that prior evil and they have been surrounded by hostile neighbors since the moment that work-out was put into effect. They fight because they have to and if they don't they're gone. The Saudis and some of the other Gulf States have normalized relations with them not because they like them but because they respect them and know they are part of the no-fucking-around crew. If Carlson really doesn't care, then he can say it once and start talking about something else. But he's not. He's running his man-pleaser 24/7 about this. He's no friend to the Jews.

People are starting to be openly antisemitic. I see it all the time ... people saying shit with "Jew" in it that would have gotten them fired 3 years ago. Huge shift happening, and people like Anna Kasparian, Cenk Uyuger and Abby Martin are normalizing it (and frankly encouraging it). Tucker is more like those people than he is like me now. While "Jew hater" may be a bit strong, it's not crazy and he is more aligned with their views than he his with mine.

Yes, you can be critical of the Israeli government and not be antisemitic. I think even Ern knows that (maybe). But you can't side with Palestinian Arabs if you know the history of that relationship at all and you can't support full right of return for them and argue that the Zionist state is illegal or immoral and call yourself of friend of the Jews.

If Tucker is still someone you like, I'd take a closer look. This has nothing to do with algos. This is the issue I'm most engaged in now for going on 3 or 4 years. My information does not come from Instagram.
 
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PurpleThrobber said:
Kill mullahs. Nothing else matters.
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A lot of shit matters. Today it's the opportunity with Persia, tomorrow it'll be something else. So much of the rest of the planet is a fucking chaotic mess. An island of people who returned to their ancestral homeland, such as it is, after having been persecuted and pushed out of their then-home countries claim a little piece of arid dirt and are surrounded and attacked for it from day one, and these same people would line up and help us in any situation in that part of the world or elsewhere with a phone call, and we're going to start parsing bullshit about them being too tough on some of the most bullshit populations there are and bitching about them pulling us into things ... whatever. 911 showed we can't just sit over here and burry our heads. We have interests abroad, our people have money and like to travel, and the Israelis are our friends. They need help and the thing with which they need help is worth doing. This anti-Zionist shit is stupidity for stupid people. Anyone who buys it is antisemitic in my book and I proceed accordingly.

Btw, Carlson and Owens aren't forgetting anything. They say what they want to say quite deliberately. It's what they do for a living.
 
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I'll take Tucker's book of work and I think he is a Jew Hater. He has no problem with Muslim's running dictatorships and oppressing minorities, women and gays. He has a huge problem with Israel being run by Jews who don't oppress minorities unless they are trying to kill Jews, women and gays. Muslim oppression = silence and Jews self-defense is genocide. Toss in Tucker's affection for Hitler. I'll take door number one. If the Muslims want peace, they can choose peace and leave the Jews alone. Egypt, Jordan and once upon a time Syria chose peace. Then the Arab Emirates did mostly. Iran and its proxies chose from the River to the Sea and acted upon it. They chose poorly.
 
WestlinnDuck said:
'll take Tucker's book of work and I think he is a Jew Hater. He has no problem with Muslim's running dictatorships and oppressing minorities, women and gays. He has a huge problem with Israel being run by Jews who don't oppress minorities unless they are trying to kill Jews, women and gays. Muslim oppression = silence and Jews self-defense is genocide. Toss in Tucker's affection for Hitler. I'll take door number one. If the Muslims want peace, they can choose peace and leave the Jews alone. Egypt, Jordan and once upon a time Syria chose peace. Then the Arab Emirates did mostly. Iran and its proxies chose from the River to the Sea and acted upon it. They chose poorly.
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100.

Carlson is the type of guy you need to get somewhere private, get drunk af, pull him into your confidence and THEN you will find out what he thinks, because about the only thing I know about that dude is that he would rather talk than fuck.
 
Bill Ayers thought that 25 million dead Americans were a good start to bring in the commie utopia to the US. After his bombings he has lamented he didn't do enough. His reward was a college professorship and a public pension. I'm sensing a pattern here with US universities loving American hating professors to indoctrinate our youth. This is from the dems who use to tell us how serious were are about the Iranians not getting nukes. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2043405071589982701
 
WestlinnDuck said:
Bill Ayers thought that 25 million dead Americans were a good start to bring in the commie utopia to the US. After his bombings he has lamented he didn't do enough. His reward was a college professorship and a public pension. I'm sensing a pattern here with US universities loving American hating professors to indoctrinate our youth. This is from the dems who use to tell us how serious were are about the Iranians not getting nukes. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2043405071589982701
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We definitely need to see more reprisals against people who are related to other people.

Might be teaching anti-American algebra and medicine.
 
PurpleThrobber said:
Being 100% pro American doesn't require being 100% pro Israel. It can be any percentage up to that depending on what they are scheming about. Hate is down there is the very low percentage of agreement range.

The same logic should be applied to Russia too.

But people won't do that.
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They won't do it because it's retarded. Imagine drawing a moral or strategic equivalence between Russia and the Israelis.

"Scheming"? WTF are you talking about? The only thing the Israelis "scheme" about is how to avoid being overrun by hostile Islamic interests.

"America First" includes knowing who America’s friends are and who its friends are not.
 
creepycoug said:
You should have finished reading:

This is the part to which you should have paid more attention instead of defending that ratings whore Tucker Carlson, who clearly licks his finger first thing in the morning to figure out which way the wind is blowing.

We are not an island. We have interests abroad and always will. Why else do you think we have diplomatic relations with the Gulf States? And so, setting history aside, in that part of the world, we have no more loyal or effective an ally than Israel, and they are getting it in every hole right now. It's not personal, Sonny. It's strictly business.

I'm not stupid. I don't know how Carlson actually feels about Jews because I don't actually know how devout he is. He is in a class of people who say shit publicly for a living. You actually never know what any of those people truly think about anything, if they actually think anything at all.

But I can tell you this: he has turned on the only place in which any Jew anywhere in the world can seek asylum from anywhere else, as they've had to over time. 16 million Jews in the world and half live there, and the other half (except for the token dip shits) view it as an important aspect of Judaism. Said another way, it is every hard to be anti-Israel w/o being at least a little anti-Jew. They've been kicked out of and persecuted in every place in Europe and every place in the middle east. This is the work-out for that prior evil and they have been surrounded by hostile neighbors since the moment that work-out was put into effect. They fight because they have to and if they don't they're gone. The Saudis and some of the other Gulf States have normalized relations with them not because they like them but because they respect them and know they are part of the no-fucking-around crew. If Carlson really doesn't care, then he can say it once and start talking about something else. But he's not. He's running his man-pleaser 24/7 about this. He's no friend to the Jews.

People are starting to be openly antisemitic. I see it all the time ... people saying shit with "Jew" in it that would have gotten them fired 3 years ago. Huge shift happening, and people like Anna Kasparian, Cenk Uyuger and Abby Martin are normalizing it (and frankly encouraging it). Tucker is more like those people than he is like me now. While "Jew hater" may be a bit strong, it's not crazy and he is more aligned with their views than he his with mine.

Yes, you can be critical of the Israeli government and not be antisemitic. I think even Ern knows that (maybe). But you can't side with Palestinian Arabs if you know the history of that relationship at all and you can't support full right of return for them and argue that the Zionist state is illegal or immoral and call yourself of friend of the Jews.

If Tucker is still someone you like, I'd take a closer look. This has nothing to do with algos. This is the issue I'm most engaged in now for going on 3 or 4 years. My information does not come from Instagram.
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"I'm not stupid. I don't know how Carlson actually feels about Jews because I don't actually know how devout he is. He is in a class of people who say shit publicly for a living. You actually never know what any of those people truly think about anything, if they actually think anything at all."

On a fucking beer glass yesterday.
 
Israel exists. I’m not for changing the status quo. But I don’t know what it means for a country to have the “right to exist.” Does Canada have a right to exist? Does the U.S.? Pakistan? Nigeria?

And the gushing sentimentality expressed here today about this ally who commits as much espionage directed at us as any enemy simply can’t live in harmony with the statement that this is “just business.” Jonathan Pollard should have died in a US prison.

There is no commonly accepted definition of Zionism. Whether people identify as Zionist will invariably depend on what they mean by the term. However, as a European movement not even 200 years old, Zionism is a mere blip in the history of Judaism and not a synonym for the religion.

I’m pro-American. To the extent Israel’s interests align with America’s, I’m pro-Israel.
 
I’m pro-American. To the extent Israel’s interests align with America’s, I’m pro-Israel.


Fuck me. I actually agree with the Dazzler for once.

The American interest Venn diagram intersection with Israel isn’t two concentric circles. Sometimes it’s a big area. Sometimes it’s not.
 
creepycoug said:
They won't do it because it's retarded. Imagine drawing a moral or strategic equivalence between Russia and the Israelis.

"Scheming"? WTF are you talking about? The only thing the Israelis "scheme" about is how to avoid being overrun by hostile Islamic interests.

"America First" includes knowing who America’s friends are and who its friends are not.
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All governments scheme.
 
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