The anti-Deion guys on here are oddly deranged about this hire.
Official: Deion Prediction Thread
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creepycoug
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I really have no idea how he'll do, because I have no idea how anyone will do. Neither does anybody else. If there's one thing about this sport it's that it's most rabid followers are 99% wrong on their hot takes before their post hot take rationalizations, which get them to around a 15% success rate.
He'll probably fail because most people do. But none of the reasons I've seen articulated are overwhelming me. What, he's the first hard ass to have to deal with coordinators and players with futures? Uh, no. He's the first prima donna to be a head coach? Uh, no. There's some mystical reason why having been naturally gifted athletically translates to coaching failure? IDK, someone will have to explain that one to me.
He'll probably fail because most people do. But none of the reasons I've seen articulated are overwhelming me. What, he's the first hard ass to have to deal with coordinators and players with futures? Uh, no. He's the first prima donna to be a head coach? Uh, no. There's some mystical reason why having been naturally gifted athletically translates to coaching failure? IDK, someone will have to explain that one to me.
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I don’t think this attitude of recycling players via portal every season builds any sort of chemistry. Also buying kids in recruiting that come there because you’re a transcendent hall of fame player and personality doesn’t make you fall in love with the school or city you’re signing with. At some point it will come back to haunt you IMO
He will be good because he will get lots of Joes. No playoff though
Fishpo31
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I'll take a shot...Elite level players make the game look easy. That is not coached, it is who they are. They aren't perfect, but their athleticism / skill make up for their mistakes. Lesser players (everyone else) have to have perfect technique, be coached up.
Just because a guy can do it / has done it, doesn't mean he can teach it at a high level. Many of the stories I have heard / seen, there is a level of frustration for formerly elite players when their players can't do what the coach tells them, because they aren't as good as the coach was.
As a baseball guy, I can remember going to the national coaches convention, in 87. They paired up Don Mattingly and Tony Gwynn to talk about hitting, to a room full of 2,000 HS and college coaches. It was a Q and A, and it was incredibly uncomfortable. One Q I will never forget, to Mattingly: "In your set-up, why do you hold your hands where you do?" A: "Because it feels comfortable". For him.
Brett Favre had to ask Ty Detmer what a nickel-defense was, in his 2nd year in the league.
Obviously Mattingly and Gwynn became coaches, and had success, but most good coaches were average players who had to seek and know every detail of what they were doing to even sniff the field (this covers the "Me" portion of the post). You learn it inside-and-out, because you have to, and you become passionate about it. It becomes a calling, and it is a profession. Also, you don't see HOF players coach because they were paid so well during their careers, potentially decreasing the desire to grind.
He could be a success at Buff, there is a lot of history that tells me it's not a lock...
My 2 cents, tl/dr
Doog_de_Jour
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Whatever happens it will be entertaining to watch.
Pitchfork51
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Since most coaches fail....youd be an idiot to ever pick one to have success at a non premier school.
GayThoughts
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Coaching matters, just cause you can out-athlete the SWAC doesn’t mean it will translate to the PAC. Prime will be back to analyzing hips and hand size at the combine in 36 months
Kingdome_Urinals
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Did some research. Prime is legitimately not a good guy. Look into how he ran his charter "school." Makes IMG look like Lakeside.
Guys like Saban, Urban, etc. are prima donnas but they didn't get where they got by celebrity.
They were system builders and great administrators who connected with the guys they had and built winners. Plus, kids either believe in you or they don't. They see who you are over a year or two and if they don't buy it, you don't win.
Every really good college coach came up as a grinder. Deion is glorified AAU in my opinion. That is basically what he is broadcasting in his public remarks.
EsophagealFeces
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That’s going to be enough to springboard him to an SEC school or FSU.
MikeDamone
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Deion is uniting the races against him
BennyBeaver
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He’s right, you know. But then, you can say that about every corch that crooted and then left for a better jerb.
I wonder how much money Bomani Jones has sent to HBCU's...
BennyBeaver
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More than you? Why does that matter?
He’s an alum of a HBCU, he’s probably donated to them. He’s still entitled to his (wrong) opinion about Neon Deion.
Crabs in a barrel
He's entitled to his opinion, sure. Deion gave a ton of his own cash to the school. At what point would it have been okay for Deion to leave? Was he expected to stay there for 30 years? I'm hearing he also HAD A CONTRACT!
The criticism he's taking from black media is beyond stupid. The same folks who yell about the lack of opportunities for black coaches are pissed off that Deion decided to take one of those opportunities.