Now that we all agree healthcare isn't a right

[RaceBannon]

Let's get back to pay for play. No more carrying the losers in life with our tax dollars

If you get sick you shouldn't have been poor

Better luck next time

Premium health insurance for those who can pay. Much lower rates without poor people on it

Healthcare is supposedly finite. Save it for the winners

 

[Sources]

Let's get back to pay for play. No more carrying the losers in life with our tax dollars

If you get sick you shouldn't have been poor

Better luck next time

Premium health insurance for those who can pay. Much lower rates without poor people on it

Healthcare is supposedly finite. Save it for the winners

Sounds like the winter of "severe illness and death" won't just be for the unvaccinated degenerates. Sign me up

 

[TheKobeStopper]

Who agreed to that?

 

[hardhat]

Who agreed to that?

Brought to you by Pfizer

 

[Bendintheriver]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

 

[Bob_C]

Who agreed to that?

What year did it become a right?

 

[TheKobeStopper]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

I don’t know what absent fathers and education have to do with any of this. It’s like you know your argument is weak so you’re just tossing culture war nonsense in.

I do not agree with your assessment that choosing to not get vaccinated and thus endangering others is the same as “choosing” to not have enough money to afford healthcare.

 

[Pitchfork51]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

I don’t know what absent fathers and education have to do with any of this. It’s like you know your argument is weak so you’re just tossing culture war nonsense in.

I do not agree with your assessment that choosing to not get vaccinated and thus endangering others is the same as “choosing” to not have enough money to afford healthcare.

Eh I'll argue in this day and age that a single person has no excuse for not having a job that covers the premium for them.

I've always had that but now...eh. c'mon man

 

[TheKobeStopper]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

I don’t know what absent fathers and education have to do with any of this. It’s like you know your argument is weak so you’re just tossing culture war nonsense in.

I do not agree with your assessment that choosing to not get vaccinated and thus endangering others is the same as “choosing” to not have enough money to afford healthcare.

Eh I'll argue in this day and age that a single person has no excuse for not having a job that covers the premium for them.

I've always had that but now...eh. c'mon man

Does your argument consist of a single point besides “I did it”?

 

[MelloDawg]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

I don’t know what absent fathers and education have to do with any of this. It’s like you know your argument is weak so you’re just tossing culture war nonsense in.

I do not agree with your assessment that choosing to not get vaccinated and thus endangering others is the same as “choosing” to not have enough money to afford healthcare.

Well, nothing, but I think you pick up on the overtones.

 

[RaceBannon]

Back to the point

Healthcare isn't a right

We all agree

Let's stop wasting the finite resource on losers that can't pay

You think the non vaxxed should be denied care. No difference

 

[RaceBannon]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

I don’t know what absent fathers and education have to do with any of this. It’s like you know your argument is weak so you’re just tossing culture war nonsense in.

I do not agree with your assessment that choosing to not get vaccinated and thus endangering others is the same as “choosing” to not have enough money to afford healthcare.

Well, nothing, but I think you pick up on the overtones.

White fathers are not absent?

Try to tamp down the latent racism please

 

[thechatch]

Healthcare isn’t a right. It involves a service from someone else. You cannot compel someone to perform a service for you.

Freedom of speech is a right, as laid out by our constitution

The right to defend yourself is laid out in our constitution

The right to pursue prosperity is laid out in our constitution

The right to practice your chosen religion is laid out in our constitution.

The right to make someone else pay for your healthcare is nowhere implied in our constitution

As a society, we should be judged by how we protect and care for the most vulnerable of our citizens. So we need to have a better system of offering care to those who cannot care for themselves. That does not mean creating a system that also benefits those who refuse to work or participate in our society.

In other words, if you can’t afford care, you should have options that won’t ruin you financially, but this idea that everything should just be free is impossible. It’s a fantasy that is both unfair to those who work hard to pursue happiness and prosperity and economically ruinous to our system as a whole.

I WOULD be in favor of a divesting someone in the military space and reinvesting in public education/housing/healthcare, because I believe the ROI is greater in those 3, but that’s another conversation.

But free healthcare isn’t a right.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

That fucking constitution.

Always getting in the way of the feels.

 

[SFGbob]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

I don’t know what absent fathers and education have to do with any of this. It’s like you know your argument is weak so you’re just tossing culture war nonsense in.

I do not agree with your assessment that choosing to not get vaccinated and thus endangering others is the same as “choosing” to not have enough money to afford healthcare.

Don't you blame white racism for absent fathers and poor education with POC Kobe? Btw, who is to blame for absent fathers among white people?

 

[Pitchfork51]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

I don’t know what absent fathers and education have to do with any of this. It’s like you know your argument is weak so you’re just tossing culture war nonsense in.

I do not agree with your assessment that choosing to not get vaccinated and thus endangering others is the same as “choosing” to not have enough money to afford healthcare.

Eh I'll argue in this day and age that a single person has no excuse for not having a job that covers the premium for them.

I've always had that but now...eh. c'mon man

Does your argument consist of a single point besides “I did it”?

No I'd argue that I'm quite leftist when it comes to healthcare. I absolutely want it to be divorced from employment. But the worries are kinda overblown. Like there is no competent employer that doesn't offer free for single people and then pay the difference for family

My employer for example is only like 60 mil in revenue and grew fast and that was like the only option presented to them by the health insurance brokers

 

[RaceBannon]

Healthcare isn’t a right. It involves a service from someone else. You cannot compel someone to perform a service for you.

Freedom of speech is a right, as laid out by our constitution

The right to defend yourself is laid out in our constitution

The right to pursue prosperity is laid out in our constitution

The right to practice your chosen religion is laid out in our constitution.

The right to make someone else pay for your healthcare is nowhere implied in our constitution

As a society, we should be judged by how we protect and care for the most vulnerable of our citizens. So we need to have a better system of offering care to those who cannot care for themselves. That does not mean creating a system that also benefits those who refuse to work or participate in our society.

In other words, if you can’t afford care, you should have options that won’t ruin you financially, but this idea that everything should just be free is impossible. It’s a fantasy that is both unfair to those who work hard to pursue happiness and prosperity and economically ruinous to our system as a whole.

I WOULD be in favor of a divesting someone in the military space and reinvesting in public education/housing/healthcare, because I believe the ROI is greater in those 3, but that’s another conversation.

But free healthcare isn’t a right.

My point of course is not to deny the poor healthcare but to illustrate the usual leftist hypocrisy

However we have been making healthcare policy for 60 years to help the poor and its more expensive and shittier than ever for everyone

Sounds like we should move on from the leftist model and make healthcare great again

 

[WestlinnDuck]

"I WOULD be in favor of a divesting someone in the military space and reinvesting in public education/housing/healthcare, because I believe the ROI is greater in those 3, but that’s another conversation."[/b]

The actual ROI on public education and housing is negative. At best, the federal control of health care is a break even. Federal control of health care is to deny competition which is the key to better and a cheaper product. What has been the ROI on our response to the chicom crud?

Assuming the dems remain in charge of the US military, I'd seriously defund the traitorous bastards in a heartbeat and pay down the national debt. Germany has three times the national GDP of Russian and yet they expect us to defend the Ukraine from Russia while buying natural gas from Russia.

 

[MikeDamone]

Let's get back to pay for play. No more carrying the losers in life with our tax dollars

If you get sick you shouldn't have been poor

Better luck next time

Premium health insurance for those who can pay. Much lower rates without poor people on it

Healthcare is supposedly finite. Save it for the winners

More healthcare for me!

 

[MikeDamone]

Who agreed to that?

The rats relish the opportunity to let die those that choose not to get the jab.

Everyone who chooses to not take care of the kids they father. Everyone who chooses not to educate themselves. Those that choose to not work. All those that choose to not get healthcare.

Let them die right kobe?

Same as not getting the shot right? You make decisions and have to live with it.

This is where the kobe's of the world run and hide.

Its called personal responsibility.

I don’t know what absent fathers and education have to do with any of this. It’s like you know your argument is weak so you’re just tossing culture war nonsense in.

I do not agree with your assessment that choosing to not get vaccinated and thus endangering others is the same as “choosing” to not have enough money to afford healthcare.

Being an absent father is a choice. We shouldn’t be burdened as a society with people who make poor choices. Kids without fathers commit more violent crimes and endanger others. Applying your logic we should let them die because of poor choices they make. Mandated abortions perhaps.