Nick Herbig, 4* 2020 OLB, Honolulu (St. Louis), HI (Offered 9/27/18)

[KrunkJuice]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.

What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?

Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring.

Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.

Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.

 

[Ballz]

We passed on Herbig? Hahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahha

I love when people get upset at me for saying “we don’t actively recruit in the winter and spring” because it just seems so unrealistic that when things like this happen you have to find an even more unrealistic justification to disagree.

This past Spring Herbig had an interview in which he was gushing about UW and said he "loves Coach Gregory" and that was "his guy". So the facts don't support your narrative. Herbig absolutely loved UW. If they wanted him, he'd be a Dawg. They passed. Not because he sucks. But because of the 2021 guys they're in on.

 

[RaceBannon]

I'm just going to take everything @StrongArmCobra says as gospel and not worry about anything

The coaches got this

 

[Ballz]

I'm just going to take everything @StrongArmCobra says as gospel and not worry about anything

The coaches got this

Good man

 

[lawsandl]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.

What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?

Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring.

Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.

Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.

It’s all positive...

Sarcoma level positive.

 

[CallMeBigErn]

Thank gawd. Wouldn't want another white guy. That would make the natives restless. Not talking about you, Swaye.

 

[Ballz]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.

What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?

Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring.

Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.

Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.

Another kid who will still take other official visits. That's not a commitment. It's a place holder. He's being slow played by USC. Not a guy we wanted anyways and not a kid that's coveted by the big national schools even though he's a 4-star California recruit.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

This forum is fucking retarded.

Get white player - Pete hates black people, this guy is okay but sucks, we suck at recruiting, polynesians arent a minority, we suck

Do not get white player - Pete sucks, the assitants suck, we suck at recruiting

DIAFF. All of you

 

[Ballz]

This forum is fucking retarded.

Get white player - Pete hates black people, this guy is okay but sucks, we suck at recruiting, polynesians arent a minority, we suck

Do not get white player - Pete sucks, the assitants suck, we suck at recruiting

DIAFF. All of you

No more race stuff please.

 

[bananasnblondes]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.

What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?

Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring.

Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.

Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.

Oregon's 1st and 2nd safety commits are about as soft a commitment as you can get. One of them is putting out a top schools list soon. They need to stock their pantry

 

[lawsandl]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.

What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?

Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring.

Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.

Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.

Oregon's 1st and 2nd safety commits are about as soft a commitment as you can get. One of them is putting out a top schools list soon. They need to stock their pantry

Yep. Between Tae, Slusher and Hill probably one stick. Recruits are put off by how young Oregon’s DB depth chart is.

I think the strategy is take them and let it sort itself out. It’s not like the staff is naive and going to get blindsided by this.

 

[dirtysouwfdawg]

I'm surprised he doesn't have better schools after him. Outside of UW it's Wisconsin, UCLA, and Virginia? That's weird. He's really good, but I think UW began to cool on him the more the 2021 ILB board began to get worked out during the Spring evaluation period. I don't think UW will take an ILB this class. I think that scholarship will go to a position that's more of a need in this class. I think by not taking Herbig in this class, UW could take up to four 2021 ILB's and the talent available to them is mouth watering.

WDWHA....

How many ILB’s will be gone after this yr?

We were all super hard on for this kid earlier, I honestly wasn’t but figured he and Tuli would help with bothello, but now we’re going to miss on both and are ok with it?

My WDWHA was really a WTF

Bump

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?

No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.

Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.

As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.

We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR.

You’re fucking annoying. You go from super hard on for a kid to “WDWHA” and “coaches have a plan, we’ll be ok.”

Anytime things like this don’t go our way, you always have a positive spin; a reason why’ll it’ll be ok. “It was all part of the plan the whole time.”

They are not going to close all 4 of those fuckers next year. They did have a heavy class LY but to now be ok with not hitting on our top targets is top level doog shit.

GTFO with that.

Get some fucking self awareness... get off the interwebs and do some soul searching with Smalls.

 

[Ballz]

I'm surprised he doesn't have better schools after him. Outside of UW it's Wisconsin, UCLA, and Virginia? That's weird. He's really good, but I think UW began to cool on him the more the 2021 ILB board began to get worked out during the Spring evaluation period. I don't think UW will take an ILB this class. I think that scholarship will go to a position that's more of a need in this class. I think by not taking Herbig in this class, UW could take up to four 2021 ILB's and the talent available to them is mouth watering.

WDWHA....

How many ILB’s will be gone after this yr?

We were all super hard on for this kid earlier, I honestly wasn’t but figured he and Tuli would help with bothello, but now we’re going to miss on both and are ok with it?

My WDWHA was really a WTF

Bump

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?

No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.

Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.

As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.

We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR.

You’re fucking annoying. You go from super hard on for a kid to “WDWHA” and “coaches have a plan, we’ll be ok.”

Anytime things like this don’t go our way, you always have a positive spin; a reason why’ll it’ll be ok. “It was all part of the plan the whole time.”

They are not going to close all 4 of those fuckers next year. They did have a heavy class LY but to now be ok with not hitting on our top targets is top level doog shit.

GTFO with that.

Get some fucking self awareness... get off the interwebs and do some soul searching with Smalls.

Like I said, Botelho was a miss at OLB. I'm not a doog who thinks UW passed on everybody they don't get. I know when UW misses on kids and when they pass. Herbig is a pass. You wanna doubt their ability to get who they want next class, that's fine. I'm just telling you what the strategy is. Like I said, Calvert and Latu are locks and will probably be early commits. Those two alone should put any worry to rest. Brown and Reynolds are not long shots by any means. We're in good shape with ILB recruiting. It's OLB recruiting that needs to be consistently better.

 

[chuck]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

Sounds somewhat like the instate OL bumper crop of 2011...or was it 12?

 

[Ballz]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

Sounds somewhat like the instate OL bumper crop of 2011...or was it 12?

Great comparison. Not apples to oranges at all.

 

[HillsboroDuck]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

“It doesn’t matter if we get elite ILBs this year because we’re allegedly going to get some next year.”

Stop paraphrasing @CuntWaffle’s parody shit, fucko.

 

[chuck]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

Sounds somewhat like the instate OL bumper crop of 2011...or was it 12?

Great comparison. Not apples to oranges at all.

Identical doogery. You dont get it, and you won't get it, and...I wont help.

 

[Ballz]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

Sounds somewhat like the instate OL bumper crop of 2011...or was it 12?

Great comparison. Not apples to oranges at all.

Identical doogery. You dont get it, and you won't get it, and...I wont help.

Except it's not. Obviously UW is a much better program than they were under Sark and therefore are recruiting at a much higher level than Sark ever did. The program is beginning to recruit itself. UW has been turning away 4-star talent for a while now. This is nothing new. Back under Sark, we were never gonna get the big recruits in the next class that doogs thought we were gonna get. Under Petersen we have and we will continue to those big recruits. Apples to oranges. It's not doogery anymore. It's real.

 

[Ballz]

This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.

“It doesn’t matter if we get elite ILBs this year because we’re allegedly going to get some next year.”

Stop paraphrasing @CuntWaffle’s parody shit, fucko.

Not a parody. It's real now. We literally just brought in the best ILB haul in the conference this past class and you don't think we can do it again in 2021? It's happening.

 

[LaMichael_Corleone]

So the coaches dropped a guy even tho they’ve had later offers out on guys who have barely sniffed us in Kourt Williams and McDonald? So who is the guy they’re dropping Herbig for? Flowe? Botelho?

Most of you would say Bruener right? But we haven’t offered hmmmmm I wonder why? Offering Bruener as a legacy who was in the (now infamous) junior day photo would seem like a lock to Herbig huh? Maybe they wanted Herbig to feel like the #1 guy after Botelho left & Bruener would make him question a team who just took 4 ILBs the year before and a legacy. So if we offer Bruener or anyone in this class is Herbig still a drop?

As for the supposed 2021 dream class, who is the player who has been the most discussed as the kid everyone can’t believe UDUB hasn’t offered? Julien Simon. What position is he being recruited at? Inside Linebacker. Seems weird to be offering Latu after Herbig’s commitment if we dropped Herbig. Washington was the one of if not the last of Keith Brown’s 8 offers. He got his UDUB offer after his Visit to his dream hometown school. Why would the coaches put this much into timing of 2021’s first offers if they just missed their first three offers in 2020?

Botelho, Flowe, and Herbig are by far the best three LBs in an ILB class we’ve had in quite some time. Flowe has a really close brother like relationship with Cam Davis and Botelho & Herbig were once licks at the Poly Bowl never even came on an all expenses paid trip to UDUB which is a bigger deal when from Hawaii.