NBA Playoff Megathread

[Kaepsknee]

Rockets need to unleash Capela in the 2nd half, P&R was non existent

It doesn't work as well when Draymond is guarding Capela and can easily switch off onto the original pick and roll and Capela isn't allowed to roll freely

Capela will never beat Golden State. Only Paul, Harden and Gordon can. Tonight one of them went off. They will need all 3 to win.

Combined Harden and Paul scored 64. If you include Gordon they scored 79 points. How much more do you realistically expect out of them?

Tucker and Mbah a Moute are worthless in this series. Ariza is blah. Where else is Houston going to get buckets from?

Now, if you put LBJ on Houston, I may be interested in talking about a series. But their 3 and D players more or less suck in relation to the Warriors.

Those 3 need to score 90-100 points for them to win. Steph Curry was off last night and they still almost broke 120. Houston's other players are good for maybe 25-30 points between all of them against Golden State. It all just illustrates how dominant of a team the W's are.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

George Karl and Brad Stevens agree

George Karl is a good example. Stevens gets more time.

 

[allpurpleallgold]

Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

What this playoff is really driving home to me is that this direction of "3 and D" players is too easy to exploit as there are few that are able to be multi-dimensional offensively and strong enough defensively. With Cleveland, it's too easy to exploit guys like Korver defensively. With Houston, the defenders like Tucker and Mbah a Moute are not good enough offensively to not allow a good team to be able to fall off of him effectively.

Korver is not a 3 and D player

He’s a 3 and no D player ... missing my point if that is what you are focusing in on

You're missing the point if you're using Korver as any kind of data point about the 3 and D movement. He's not part of it.

It’s more about specialization in my mind and having limited focal points offensively.

Bruce Bowen to me was an original example. Great D and made himself into a passable offensive player.

A guy like Korver swings the other way as a great shooter that in an ideal world you hide in defense.

The unicorn is the great shooter that is also a tremendous defender.

In all examples, these players are limited offensively in what they do well versus what a good defense forces them into.

I don’t understand the point of this post. Teams want 3 and D wings because those are the most important skills. If you can’t shoot you screw up spacing. If you can’t defend your defense is comprised. Wings that can do both and create offensively are all stars. I don’t know how you think teams are going to just go get more of those.

 

[RaceBannon]

Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

George Karl and Brad Stevens agree

George Karl is a good example. Stevens gets more time.

He lost to a higher seed his first trip but it was Atlanta!

Lost to higher seeded Cleveland his second year

Lost to Cleveland as the Number One Seed last year in 5 games

Now playing Cleveland as a higher seed leading 1-0 after a crisp 30 point win and his first two series wins earlier this year.

He needs to make the Finals. Then I can finally root for the Warriors

 

[Tequilla]

Offense is about creating opportunities for yourself and your teammates.

Shooting spaces the floor and in theory makes it easier for penetration.

Guys that can shoot but can’t create are dependent on others for offense.

If the creators in that system can’t create or more importantly if defenses don’t help to the point of creating opportunities for dependent shooters, then the offense really bogs down.

You don’t need to have all stars. Shooting is obviously valuable. But there are other offensive skills as well.

 

[HorrifyinglyAlluring]

Offense is about creating opportunities for yourself and your teammates.

Shooting spaces the floor and in theory makes it easier for penetration.

Guys that can shoot but can’t create are dependent on others for offense.

If the creators in that system can’t create or more importantly if defenses don’t help to the point of creating opportunities for dependent shooters, then the offense really bogs down.

You don’t need to have all stars. Shooting is obviously valuable. But there are other offensive skills as well.

You type soooo much without ever saying anything at all. In the rare time you have a point, it's something extremely obvious that could have been said in 1/6 the text. Please consider posting less about basketball. Thanks -- the lurkers.

 

[RaceBannon]

https://si.com/nba/2018/05/15/celtics-brad-stevens-jayson-tatum-terry-rozier-nba-playoffs

Don't call them underdogs @dnc

 

[RoadDawg55]

Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

George Karl and Brad Stevens agree

George Karl is a good example. Stevens gets more time.

He lost to a higher seed his first trip but it was Atlanta!

Lost to higher seeded Cleveland his second year

Lost to Cleveland as the Number One Seed last year in 5 games

Now playing Cleveland as a higher seed leading 1-0 after a crisp 30 point win and his first two series wins earlier this year.

He needs to make the Finals. Then I can finally root for the Warriors

You’re taking the LeBron fanboy act a little far.

 

[RaceBannon]

Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

George Karl and Brad Stevens agree

George Karl is a good example. Stevens gets more time.

He lost to a higher seed his first trip but it was Atlanta!

Lost to higher seeded Cleveland his second year

Lost to Cleveland as the Number One Seed last year in 5 games

Now playing Cleveland as a higher seed leading 1-0 after a crisp 30 point win and his first two series wins earlier this year.

He needs to make the Finals. Then I can finally root for the Warriors

You’re taking the LeBron fanboy act a little far.

I'm talking about Brad Stevens. Did not mention Lebron

 

[dnc]

https://si.com/nba/2018/05/15/celtics-brad-stevens-jayson-tatum-terry-rozier-nba-playoffs

Don't call them underdogs @dnc

Well if Rohan Nadkarni says no I take it back.

I did pick them to win the series after all. I think they're the better team. They're not the better roster though.

 

[dnc]

Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

What this playoff is really driving home to me is that this direction of "3 and D" players is too easy to exploit as there are few that are able to be multi-dimensional offensively and strong enough defensively. With Cleveland, it's too easy to exploit guys like Korver defensively. With Houston, the defenders like Tucker and Mbah a Moute are not good enough offensively to not allow a good team to be able to fall off of him effectively.

Korver is not a 3 and D player

He’s a 3 and no D player ... missing my point if that is what you are focusing in on

You're missing the point if you're using Korver as any kind of data point about the 3 and D movement. He's not part of it.

It’s more about specialization in my mind and having limited focal points offensively.
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Bruce Bowen to me was an original example. Great D and made himself into a passable offensive player.

A guy like Korver swings the other way as a great shooter that in an ideal world you hide in defense.

The unicorn is the great shooter that is also a tremendous defender.

In all examples, these players are limited offensively in what they do well versus what a good defense forces them into.

So you don't understand 3 and D. Got it.

 

[RaceBannon]

https://si.com/nba/2018/05/15/celtics-brad-stevens-jayson-tatum-terry-rozier-nba-playoffs

Don't call them underdogs @dnc

Well if Rohan Nadkarni says no I take it back.

I did pick them to win the series after all. I think they're the better team. They're not the better roster though.

Everyone on Boston is better than everyone on Cleveland except Lebron. Love is hurt. The bench is the guys the Lakers didn't want to keep in order to go after Lebron for next year. Throw in the greatest coach in the history of sports and this thing is over

 

[dnc]

https://si.com/nba/2018/05/15/celtics-brad-stevens-jayson-tatum-terry-rozier-nba-playoffs

Don't call them underdogs @dnc

Well if Rohan Nadkarni says no I take it back.

I did pick them to win the series after all. I think they're the better team. They're not the better roster though.

Everyone on Boston is better than everyone on Cleveland except Lebron. Love is hurt. The bench is the guys the Lakers didn't want to keep in order to go after Lebron for next year. Throw in the greatest coach in the history of sports and this thing is over

Most of those guys on Boston are only good (at least this early) because of Stevens. Terry Rozier is nobody without Stevens developing him. Brown and Tatum have gotten much better as the year has gone. Al Horford would be Horford. Literally no else on the playoff roster scared anyone when the season started.

LeBron's supposed to be the best player ever. He should be able to handle a team of Al Horford and some 20 year olds.

 

[allpurpleallgold]

Offense is about creating opportunities for yourself and your teammates.

Shooting spaces the floor and in theory makes it easier for penetration.

Guys that can shoot but can’t create are dependent on others for offense.

If the creators in that system can’t create or more importantly if defenses don’t help to the point of creating opportunities for dependent shooters, then the offense really bogs down.

You don’t need to have all stars. Shooting is obviously valuable. But there are other offensive skills as well.

You are describing Rajon Rando and Evan Turner. Bother of whom killed their teams in the series they lost. Can you give me an example of a player that you’re talking about that doesn’t kill his team?

 

[RaceBannon]

Lebron is 3 and 5 in finals. He's not a one man team and never has been.

Boston has been a contender all year including pre season. It's God's 5th year there with Ainge stacking the roster with top picks.

When Cleveland rebuilt on the fly at the All Star break they were written off. They were written off against Indianapolis

They played 4 great games against the Raptors

This whole the only reason Boston wins is because of Stevens and they lose because they're young is bullshit

IMO

 

[RaceBannon]

I like the Cavs tonight by the way

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Lebron is 3 and 5 in finals. He's not a one man team and never has been.

Boston has been a contender all year including pre season. It's God's 5th year there with Ainge stacking the roster with top picks.

When Cleveland rebuilt on the fly at the All Star break they were written off. They were written off against Indianapolis

They played 4 great games against the Raptors

This whole the only reason Boston wins is because of Stevens and they lose because they're young is bullshit

IMO

Stevens is winning with Aron FUCKING Baynes in the post.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Lebron is 3 and 5 in finals. He's not a one man team and never has been.

Boston has been a contender all year including pre season. It's God's 5th year there with Ainge stacking the roster with top picks.

When Cleveland rebuilt on the fly at the All Star break they were written off. They were written off against Indianapolis

They played 4 great games against the Raptors

This whole the only reason Boston wins is because of Stevens and they lose because they're young is bullshit

IMO

You always talk about stars. Who is Boston’s true, bonafied All Star? They don’t have one. Yet here they are in the ECF after losing their top two players.

You’re becoming Svenlike with your arguments.

 

[backthepack]

Lebron is 3 and 5 in finals. He's not a one man team and never has been.

Boston has been a contender all year including pre season. It's God's 5th year there with Ainge stacking the roster with top picks.

When Cleveland rebuilt on the fly at the All Star break they were written off. They were written off against Indianapolis

They played 4 great games against the Raptors

This whole the only reason Boston wins is because of Stevens and they lose because they're young is bullshit

IMO

You always talk about stars. Who is Boston’s true, bonafied All Star? They don’t have one. Yet here they are in the ECF after losing their top two players.

You’re becoming Svenlike with your arguments.

Lol they do but they're hurt. Which is even more of a indictment on Steven's ability to coach. He's amazing.

 

[dnc]

Lebron is 3 and 5 in finals. He's not a one man team and never has been.

Boston has been a contender all year including pre season. It's God's 5th year there with Ainge stacking the roster with top picks.

When Cleveland rebuilt on the fly at the All Star break they were written off. They were written off against Indianapolis

They played 4 great games against the Raptors

This whole the only reason Boston wins is because of Stevens and they lose because they're young is bullshit

IMO

You always talk about stars. Who is Boston’s true, bonafied All Star? They don’t have one. Yet here they are in the ECF after losing their top two players.

You’re becoming Svenlike with your arguments.

Lol they do but they're hurt. Which is even more of a indictment on Steven's ability to coach. He's amazing.

Indictment?